horseshoe should add 1k+ hu sngs that would be sick

I do think a permanent coffee station(self-serve) would work in the poker room. Also, a water cooler. Many rooms that I've played in have these two items which take up very little space. I have in mind the area near the cashier's cage. There seems to be room along that wall. These little touches mean a lot to the regulars, such as the candy bowl.

OK, brace yourself.....I basically agree with Coconuts. My first preference would be to have no promotions and, therefore, no promotional rake. Recognizing that that is not going to happen, I like free tournament entries (I am biased because I am a decent tournament player). I do not, however, like promotions that grant tournament entries to those that play the most hands (I think they do this at Four Winds). I play fairly frequently, but I can't play poker every day. I do like the free entry to the $1500 monthly tournament for the winners of the weekly tournies.

I am OK with high hand promotions. I dislike bad beat jackpots and the 7-2 idea. The more a promotion affects how the game is played, the less I like it. Yeah, I know, you can take advantage of how people alter their play based on the promotions, but that is just not my preferred way to play poker.

If you want to attract more people during certain slow hours, why not increase the comp credits during those periods?

As somebody who has not been to the room yet, but am thinking about coming to play 3-6 LHE, I've been following this thread with some interest. Right now, I drive up to Milwaukee to play 2-4 at Potawatomi once in a while, because I enjoy the drive up on a beautiful Saturday morning.

Even though I don't play tournaments, I think the free entry to the $1500 is a good idea.

I think that a $2/hour comp for the slow days is a good idea as well, perhaps with a minimum of 3 hours that day to qualify. I know that a $2/hour TR comp for arriving on a Thursday night before 6pm would be something to entice me to get into the office early about once/month and leave the loop at 4pm by car.

And I like the water cooler idea. I don't mind tipping the servers for Diet Coke, but I hate the little $1 bottles of water stocked at most casinos.

I would like to add that the dealer can press a button for the cocktail waitress.

Your absolutely right coco. In other areas of the Shoe(slot players, total rewards, whatever....) they show appreciation to their frequent players by giving them gifts. This brings in their regulars to get these gifts and they play even more.

They are not putting gifts out there for people who might become customers. At times there are coupon offers but they are for all players.

This is a basic question, but I used to donk it up a lot at Majestic (when it was still Trump)and am making my first trip down there...But is 1-2 NL, 200 max? How many tables get spread for 1-2 on a Friday night?

1/2 is 200max. Gotta be atleast 4 or 5 tables running on Fridays.

4-5 is on a slow Tuesday morning.

There are 10-11 1-2 NL's on a Friday and that is with many players on the list. Make sure you call one hour ahead of time to put your name on the list at 219-473-6065. Today will probably be 8-9 games because of the weather.

It's already on there but it only displays it in the room not back in the cocktail area yet. They pretty much have a routine when it is busy. They each get 6-7 tables, start at one, serve all their tables and start back over.

I have not heard anything but I know the top people know about it. It is the providers that have no cell towers there. I have complained mulitple times to Verizon and a few other providers. I had Verizon and switched myself to Sprint. They let me out of my contract because of no coverage. My suggestion, which I know some regulars have done is get a Sprint prepay or low minute package and just have your calls transfered while you play. I think it is like $30 a month.

Just as an exercise, please rank your favorite promotion ideas from best to worst. It's great that we're throwing ideas out there, but it would be more useful to sort out which ideas are good and which are bad. Let me know if I'm forgetting any ideas. My preferences:

7-2, double comps, Freeroll SNGs, quads or better (with smaller payouts), BBJP, hot dog cart , Free seats for tourney winners, splash the pot

Bad analogy, coconuts. It's not just solely about increasing business, it's about providing you with a steady stream of fresh players. As a poker player, I thought you would comprehend the impact of a more wider group of players, vs. a more limited one.

But I tell you what, if a promotion has an option of giving you $2/hour vs. $1/hour -or- the prospect of bringing in new people/more business, I guarantee the upper management is going to lean towards the latter.

My preferences...

No vig SNG's(my idea tyvm)...

or Freerolls and or supersats with added seats for WSOP events...
(oh cmon Harrahs make this happen like it was supposed to so long ago)

OR

Cashback option if you get to 50 hours a month or something.....say 50 dollars redeemable instead of comps...at 100 hours maybe 150 bucks.
(not expecting this to happen but it would certainly drive business)

double comps,double comps,quads or better (with smaller payouts), Freeroll SNGs,7-2,splash the pot

Since we are all paying the promotional dollar, I believe that any promotion should be accessible to anyone and at any time. I have no desire to play an sng nor a tourney. I think the 7-2 promo is an incredible idea. However, i'm also fine with quads or better, or a BBJP(especially since I hit it at majestic).

Regarding a hot dog cart, this would be nice, but I'm really in favor of something a bit healthier. The lack of good quick food is one of the reasons I dont put in long sessions at the horseshoe.

And I have no desire to donk off money chasing a 7-2 promotion. I would much rather play in a SNG or tourney. Since not everyone likes every promotion, there should be a wide variety.

[QUOTE=rowdyclassmate;7830030] Rowdy, do me a personal favor and make sure you say "hello" to the Mad Hatter for me the next time you see him. What world are you living in? "Its about providing you with a steady stream of fresh players??" Oh yeah man, one of the top priorities for any poker room.

All casinos exist solely to provide for themselves, period! Most of them do so while pretending to care about the customers wants. The better ones convince it's customers they care, by actually providing some pretty attractive incentives, instead of just offering a steady stream of lip service.

No argument here; I agree totally.

CALLING JEREMY! Hey J, a page or two back, you asked me what I would do with the promotion money if you left it up to me. I responded twice, and both ideas I had ($2 tr payback and no promos, or quads or better with lower payouts) seem to have some support here. You're the one who asked; what say ye?

I totally agree with Rocco that the more a promo affects how the game is played the less he likes it. I second that statement.

Most promos such as quads, straight flushes and aces cracked somewhat alter the way we play the game. But these are little subleties we can work out to our advantage or disadvantage. You start messing around with 7-2 and pretty soon it won’t be poker as we know it. Eventually we will be playing Guts poker(also know as the politically incorrect Indian poker.) If that starts to happen we might as well play at our kitchen tables again.

Amen, Specs! I third the motion on the 7-2. Patooey on it.

I don't think all players are paying the promo dollar, and I like cash game should get promo $$ more then d/tournaments. 7-2 might be good but i don't see myself winning this promo that offten and also sometime less action will be good. I can see players getting AA busted by 7-2 and then the suckout getting more cash

a lot of player I know don't put in long hour becouse they leave to get food.

I wonder if management is ever going to take these kinds of statements seriously? Nah.

[QUOTE=coconuts;7834778] How you cannot fathom that being a top priority is beyond me. You'd rather seek the selfish increase in $1/hour per comps (so you can eat completely free, than to pull a few bucks out of your pocket), than to realize the impact of increasing the player base.

MR Raise it, will the Shoe be putting cushion under the felt. It's realy hard to fold and pick up cards also the dealer are having a hard time with no cushion aswell.

thanks