I like it. It's a very fair way of handing out the money and the extra action it creates will be nice. What would be even more fun is if you allowed people to collect the $100 if they won a pot over a certain size without showing down. I look forward to the bluffing action that would create. This would also benefit good players because they will be better able to factor the promotion into their decisions.

I finally got together a roll to come down Saturday. Is that still a good day to find HORSE/PLO/O8?

As a weekend-only player (and an occasional one at that), I'd just throw in the thought that whatever promotions you run would be best if equally accessible to players on all days of the week.

That minor thought aside, I've enjoyed playing in the poker room at the Shoe and find the decor, staff, and facilities to be great. The electronic tables out front are a nice touch, though it would be nice to see [one or both of] them go non-smoking at some point.

P.S. Golden Phoenix really should run a 2:35am shuttle back to the Hyatt downtown on weekends. Leaving at 1:35 sucks.

Then you must either not like money or not understand poker.

I think this would be absolutely incredible and would induce so much action and be great for the game.

Please give us your quick good idea then. Something that does not involve hotdogs....

Theory: a small jackpot that hits often is better for action in a poker room than a large one that hits infrequently. Discuss.

+1

Only drawback is taking a long time to get a verification from floor but I am sure that can be addressed.

$2 per hour on total reward card instead of $1, and no promotions, period. Quick enough?

Why are you avoiding the question? Promo suggestion only, the promotion is still in effect so give us your best suggestion to use the promo dollar. I say coconuts here is the money, how would you like to issue it back?

The 7-2 one I thought was a pretty good so far.

This is the first time I have heard this. Most of the ones I have seen have had the next hand going within a few minutes. I will keep an eye on it.

Collusion is a strong charge to make without strong evidence. I have played with all the players named here, and I can say without a doubt that I never once saw anything remotely suggesting a hint of collusion amongst them.

You post though, does bring up a good point regarding dealers and table chat. The dealing corps at the Shoe has a lot of weak links. With few exceptions, most of those who have never dealt previously, appear ill-informed, and poorly-trained regarding rules and procedure, and are especially weak in the area of table talk.

Seldom does a day go by when the chat at some table will be bordering on near-collusion, and a newer dealer in the box will invariably be staring out into space, appearing totally unaware and unmindful of the conversation at hand. Some give me the impression that they think it's their job to not interfere in table chat, no matter what the context of the chat is.

It is the dealers job to run the game, not the players, and when a player at the table has to remind a guilty party that poker is a game of one person per hand, they are doing the dealers job for them. The better dealers don't need a reminder to put a stop to such talk immediately. The inexperienced dealers apparently have never been taught this, but they need to be taught it soon.

Four months of on-the-job training would seem sufficient-enough time for any aspiring dealer to reach a level of competence, yet there are still a number of dealers at the Shoe who have failed to do so. As players, we all know who they are, and I sometimes wonder if management knows who they are too.

Oh yeah, that's me "avoiding the question." C'mon J, I'm your biggest pest and I didn't earn that honor by avoiding anything.

$2 instead of $1 is my idea of a promotion. A promotion (I assume) "promotes" business, and I think giving us $2 per hour rakeback would promote. I can tell you for fact that it would be more of an incentive for me personally, to know I can eat a good buffet on most visits for a few bucks out of pocket, than the chance of collecting bonus money for a straight-flush or royal. I make those hands about 3 times a year; I eat every day.

"Give me the money and let me decide what to do with it?" Absolutely! Give me the dough, and I'll have a good idea for you when I get back from Tahiti next spring.

On second thought, and as long as the promotion is still in effect, here's how I would use it up before ending all promotions and increasing the hourly rate to $2: Go back to the quads or better promo; the money would run out in no time flat.

I thought the quads or better was a great promotion, with a reasonable shot at extra bucks every day you played. I knew immediately though, (as many players must have known) that the payouts were too high. If you could run this promotion with low-enough payouts so that the promo pool could support it 24/7, without running out of money, I think it would be highly-popular, and all talk of new promotions would come to an immediate halt. I think you know this too, but I'm guessing we will never see it again because it kept the floor too busy.

If $500-1000-1500 lasted what, 5 days, could the pool support $100-200-300 around the clock, seven days per week? A previous post asked if we thought a promotion with lower payouts and a better chance of hitting is better for a room than a remote chance of hitting a higher payout. I personally think it is, and I'd probably bet most would agree with that. A quads or better promo with payouts resembling those I suggest, would fit that bill perfectly. It would also thwart most complaints because it is fair to all, running around the clock every day, instead of Monday mornings between 6:15 and 7:05 am.

J,

If you dont consistently get over 50 people to this Saturdays tourney I think you should run single table sat for 112+10+5? (2 people make it) to get into saturdays 500 dollar tourney. That way you can get more people in the saturday tournament, possibly make it a guaranteed payout every week. It would make the prizepool large enough to make peeps want to buy in as well. I won't come out and pay for a 500 dollar tourney unless there are at least 50people or first place pays at over 10 grand.

Also, I really like the coffee station idea. It is a nice addition at Goldstrike. I like the promo dollar going to tourney seats, quads or better, aces cracked, the 27 idea, or why not a good ole fashioned bad beat? which seems to be a worn out idea amongst you folks. Any way they all sound good to me.

Peace and Merry Xmas

K

p.s.
somebody please post how many people show up to this Saturdays tourney.

What is the coffe station idea?

[QUOTE=kevinmbuck;7816188]J,

I like this idea, although I don't get the "112+10+5." How about a 10-player single at $115?

I get the shivers whenever players clamor for a bad beat jackpot. I'll leave it at that.

<< $2 instead of $1 is my idea of a promotion. A promotion (I assume) "promotes" business, and I think giving us $2 per hour rakeback would promote. >>

The sad reality is most promotions are done to attract new people, not favor the existing clientale. Take eBay/Paypal for example, they do promotions to those that haven't purchased anything in a while, to get them back into buying mode because they feel they might have lost them.

Which days are the slowest Jeremy? Base something around that. The idea of free seats is a good idea, since people like a shot at something for nothing.

The slowest days are Tuesday and Thursdays which is why we are doing the tournaments on those days to see how it will affect the rest of the room.

I would like to do another future promo but I like it when it runs 24/7.

There are coffee stations thoughout the casino that are run by cocktail waitresses. Would one work good in the poker room? We usually have 2-4 girls at all times on the main floor which makes it pretty quick for drinks.

Yes all three games usually go on Saturday. The PLO in 2-5 (200-1000), the O8 is 5-10 limit and the HORSE is 5-10 and 40-80 limit. If there is an interest for a mid limit HORSE game we will run it but there usually is not enough interest to get it going.

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NO! This is exactly what made the Monday morning splash pot promo so wildly unpopular! Slow days are slow days for a variety of reasons, and those days will still be slower than normal, promo or not. So why have the bulk of the players build up the promo money, and then give it away when these same donors are not likely to be there? 24/7 makes much more sense.

Yes. You want to draw people in on the slower days. If one promotion didn't work, then another needs to be attempted. In this day and age, it's a numbers game - and if a promotion can bring in more people, that will help the poker community. The same core group of poker players is great, but these promotions should be directed at bringing in fresh people.

You also want to direct people away from the other boats.

If the product is great, and the Horseshoe is, then you need people to see that and play there ONCE. That should be enough to keep them coming there. Build the promotions around that.

If the promotions should be directed at bringing in fresh people, then the Shoe should pay for them, not the "same core group of poker players."

If I owned a barber shop that you frequented regularly, and I wanted to increase business for myself by offering discount haircuts to new customers , should I raise the price of your haircut to offset my cost of doing so?

Jeremy, I know this is a well discussed topic, but have not seen an update in a while.

Is there a resolution to the cell phone issue? I simply cant go and play for 12 hours like a could before with no way for my family or work to get a hold of me. I am not permitted to switch from verizon, otherwise I would have already.

Also, If I accumulate poker comp from Harrahs STL, is it redeemable at the Shoe?

Jeremy I like the 2-7 promo idea, if I had to choose a promo idea...

I would prefer $2 comp per hour, or even $1.50. To think I have to play 33 hours a week to get one Buffet comp on Sat is ludacris