I'm sure it has for lazy people who never called in to begin with. For me it is absolutely worse. With call-ins I had ZERO wait time, and now I have sometimes up to an hour!

Is the bravo live poker app accurate for this casino? does anyone use this that could confirm?

yes it's good,

snex, that AA SB limp hand still makes me chuckle.

I was pissed initially as well, though it's worked out great for me at 1/2 and 2/5. I usually get seated within 10 minutes of arrival, if not right away. I have > 1 hour of a drive to the casino, so it always sucked trying to time it perfectly with traffic so I'd arrive before my one hour was to expire to check-in/minimize wait time. I've been arriving at about 7 pm on Fridays for the past few weeks, so maybe it is different during other times when less tables are opening/less crowded.

Add to the fact that you don't have a 100 person list like they did on Friday/Saturday nights and that random gamblers can get seated without waiting for two hours cause they didn't have the call in number, should help the games.

Me too. But, that's ok. Now my day gets started without the annoyance of staff not answering the phone.

[QUOTE=snex;32399351]....... For me it is absolutely worse. With call-ins I had ZERO wait time, and now I have sometimes up to an hour![/QUOTE

I was misinformed when I posted this and got clarification yesterday. For a str8 flush both of your hole cards must play.

Also: NO HH JACKPOTS ON FRI OR SAT. Due to room busy-ness, they feel it will take up too much of the Floors' time to deal with these on those days.

Yesterday the HHJ rolled over for 10 hours. During the 11th, someone hit quad 8s and less than 5 minutes later someone else hit quad 9s! $1100 payout. Nice if you can get it.

BBJ:
Once the current BBJ is hit, BBJ will reset to $20K, quad 2s or better must be beat (still must have PP for quads). Losing hand will never be lower than quad 2s. Jackpot will increase 10K every Monday if it is not hit beforehand.

FYI for quads on the high hand both cards have to play too, but it's not like the BBJ where you must have a pocket pair in your hand, i.e. if you have AK on KKKQQ board, you win with KKKKA.

As I mentioned in my first post on the subject here.

i decided im never playing 1 2 here again. even on friday night i get an entire table of people sitting with 60-100 in front of them waiting for the nuts. its just awful

It's pretty clear that the 1/2 is minimally profitable at best... Should be pretty obvious when the rake is the same as the 2/5. Borrow some money if you have to, and step up to 2/5. The game is great and your profits won't get (totally) eaten by the rake.

Now do you all believe me when I say the Horseshoe is relatively tough in terms of casino poker?

Relative to what?

No offense, but if you are surprised that you can't really beat a 1/2 game with 40-50BB stacks, a $5 rake, and a $1 promo drop per hand, then your grasp of basic math is such that you're not gonna be beating too many casino games period.

Other US casinos.

I can beat that 1/2 game. Not on something worth living on, but I can beat it.

The whole horseshoe is much tougher than other casinos I've been to.

My main other experience is 2/5 in Vegas during the WSOP, and in the 5/10 at the Commerce in L.A. In my experience the 2/5 at the Shoe is not appreciably worse than those games. It is extremely beatable 7 days a week.

No one is saying 2/5 isn't beatable either. Let's try responding to what's written.

I believe you can win at a very small rate, which is better than a kick in the nuts I guess. Still, it's not worth the time.

Where else have you played?

vegas and detroit. Detroit is way softer. Vegas is way, way, way softer.

In Vegas it completely depends on when and which casino. 2/5 at Bellagio with no tourney series going on is *not* better than the Shoe.

During the WSOP, thought, you're right, there are great 2/5 games all over town.

thanks for the responses. i have the roll to play 2/5 and i have been playing 2/5 at another casino with a $300 max buyin. i have only been playing 1/2 at shoe because i am still extremely new to live poker. as in less than 100 hours of play. i am still getting a hang of everything and 1/2 has been okay experience for adjusting to live but as i've said the 1/2 game here is just an awful joke. as an example, a 2/5 game i've been playing in elsewhere in IL is significantly softer than the horseshoes 1/2 game. not that the players here are geniuses but when 90% of them buyin for $50 or $100 and are completely fine sitting there for hours on end getting whittled down $2 every 10 minutes waiting for the nuts its just a waste of time as many of you have said. i've made about $1000 so far in this game but its just not a good use of time.

cliffs notes... youre all right.

I should be careful not to lump them all together. However, there's a good number of them that think when they lose the other person somehow got lucky.

The most recent incident I can recall happened last week. There was a 22/23 year old kid, who clearly doesn't play often, who flopped a set of 8's. He bet it the whole way and doubled up against a "regular" whose pocket K's didn't improve. Of course he berated the kid telling him he was lucky and that he should go play roulette with his parents money blah blah blah. You could tell the poor kid felt bad about it when he shouldn't have. This garbage happens all the time.

Now that I think of it, which one of you was it with the Kings? lol

You have no clue about the "semi regular" players in that room. You have some kind of beef. But, your comments are woefully misdirected.

people that do this should not be able to earn comp points for the next 24 hours. there needs to be some sort of penalty. then and only then will this stop.

yes. the rake is a joke but being able to buyin for 300 has served me well to getting acclimated to the new stakes and the game wasnt too big for me. on another note what is 5-10 like at shoe? it is timed rake correct? how much of an improvement is that on normal rake?