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03-09-2012 , 07:57 PM
I saw the guy and the girl with the dog... I bet that's profitable.
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03-10-2012 , 01:27 AM
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also, confirmed i want to grind the ghostbusters and the dark knight slots in the front for a living. they look sick
I can concur, the ghostbusters machine is fun. + $90 in 30 min. ran good on the bonuses.
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03-10-2012 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
It's a girl who has a giant hand for some reason, not a guy. It's sad, but crazy people going to crazy people.
Lymphedema -- likely post radiation therapy ---- there are definitely treatments for it --- hanging at the skyway exit does not appear to be a viable treatment --- nor adequately funding the treatment
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03-10-2012 , 11:59 PM
just moved to the Chicago area and used to grinding it out in home games in the prev state i lived in post black friday.

Without parsing through the past 333 pages to get an idea of how the play is at hammond, could someone do me a fav and help me out? if so when i head out there from time to time I'll try to give a breakdown of the action/games running

would probably play 2/5 nlhe and up and 20/40 limit and up.


Also it looks like the weekly/monthly tourney structure is pretty bad.....just at a glance

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03-11-2012 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ko13
just moved to the Chicago area and used to grinding it out in home games in the prev state i lived in post black friday.

Without parsing through the past 333 pages to get an idea of how the play is at hammond, could someone do me a fav and help me out? if so when i head out there from time to time I'll try to give a breakdown of the action/games running

would probably play 2/5 nlhe and up and 20/40 limit and up.


Also it looks like the weekly/monthly tourney structure is pretty bad.....just at a glance
Not really sure what you are looking for or expect but the Horseshoe, in my opinion, is the best room in the Midwest. If i were you, coming from a home game, I would start out at the 1/2nl until you are crushing it. The 1/2 2/5 games can become difficult on weeknights... Thursday-Saturday nights are the best because you get some really loose players.

as far as tournaments go... i have only played a few weekday ones. However, I enjoy them.
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03-11-2012 , 09:14 PM
also.. the Bravo poker live app for the iphone... is great because it tells you exactly how juicy the room is and what games are running.
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03-11-2012 , 11:36 PM
Awesome, thanks for the app suggestion and the advice.

I played 1/3 and 2/5 for a living from 2002-2006 and moved onto, 5/10 nl, 10/20 nl and also 20/40 limit online almost exclusively. I assume at most casinos nowadays it's pretty dry, but if all the good action is on 1/2 and 2/5 as you suggest, I may play those instead.
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03-12-2012 , 04:26 PM
Sup guys,

I was going to make a post in Mid-High Stakes Full Ring about this but I will just post it here.

Two weeks ago there was a 10/20 nlhe game running all night Friday (Mar 2) and a 10/20/40 nlhe game running all night Saturday (Mar 3). This was obviously due to the CPC. It was awesome to not have to play 150 bbs deep at 5/10. If anyone ITT was in either of those games or has interest in getting it going on the reg one or even more times a week PM me, as I would like to get it going again. I would also help start a no max buyin 5/10 game too as a consolation if there were more interest in that, but 10/20+ would be preferred. I know a few of the regulars there that would help start this as well, but not enough. Let me know. Thanks,

Jimmy
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03-12-2012 , 09:15 PM
There used to be a regular 5/10/20 no-cap but I haven't seen it run in a while.
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03-12-2012 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by snex
There used to be a regular 5/10/20 no-cap but I haven't seen it run in a while.
Yeah it used to run every M/W/F apparently but now it never does. I'd like to change that.
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03-12-2012 , 10:57 PM
stake me and I'm in
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03-12-2012 , 11:17 PM
The PLO game killed it is what Ive heard from other 5/10 regs. I've never been around when they ran it consistently.

The economy dropping hurt too.
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03-12-2012 , 11:36 PM
The version I heard was that a bunch of 10/20 regs got busted at the 2011 WSOP. No personal knowledge myself.
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03-13-2012 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
The PLO game killed it is what Ive heard from other 5/10 regs. I've never been around when they ran it consistently.

The economy dropping hurt too.

I too believe the PLO games have been killing the NL. Now its not uncommon to have more 2/5 PLO and 5/10PLO than 5/10NL ,yesterday only one nl game and two 5/10PLO games going.
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03-13-2012 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolech
I too believe the PLO games have been killing the NL. Now its not uncommon to have more 2/5 PLO and 5/10PLO than 5/10NL ,yesterday only one nl game and two 5/10PLO games going.
this.
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03-15-2012 , 10:09 AM
We got the 10/20 going last night. There was a 10/25 and 5/10 PLO game running and we still got a 9-handed 10/20. Hopefully this trend will continue.
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03-15-2012 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmyvjv13
We got the 10/20 going last night. There was a 10/25 and 5/10 PLO game running and we still got a 9-handed 10/20. Hopefully this trend will continue.
10/20 NLHE that is
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03-19-2012 , 04:41 PM
so i havent played any real poker since black friday hit... i managed to grind from 2nl up to 25nl and once i was starting to make 25nl my new home, then shtf...

i totally dont have a roll for live that i feel comfortable playing, nor a way to currently get one..

how feasible would it be to bring 1-2 $200 buyins and nit it up hoping to try and start a roll from nothing? i figure 2 buyins max im done until i can afford another 2 buyins to try again.. anything i win will be put into a non-touchable bankroll. id be looking to play on friday/saturday night at first and if i ever do end up being able to grind up a roll, obviously increase volume and expand to more off-peak days (test the waters)

i know variance will play a part and thats fine with me. even though id be on a relatively non-existent roll, im not worried about pushin it in when i know it should go in.

is this doable from someone with my "experience" level?

keep in mind, ive never stepped foot inside of a casino, and therefore have never played live, other than with some dumb fishy kids in a home game.. i know ill be really shaky and nervous my first time playing in a casino..

what are the thoughts from you regs? would the games feel tough to me? (fwiw, i didnt think 25nl was too bad, hell maybe easier than 10 nl on ftp, but i did get a bit of run cold at the beginning but i never got the chance to settle in) - obviously its hard to say where exactly im at as far as skill is concerned, but i def feel like im competent but not a shark

im sure this may be a weird question to answer, but could you try? i plan to try either way whenever i get the chance, but would like to have a legit idea bout what to expect since there seems to be so many polarizing opinions on the skill level of this room

thanks!
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03-19-2012 , 04:42 PM
any thoughts on the 1/2 plo game here? soft? is the rake even beatable?
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03-19-2012 , 06:04 PM
1/2 PLO is tough because I'm in it.

If you try to grind up a roll from $400 in 1/2 NL, I'd say your chances of success are 10-30% if you're a winning player. Compared to other 1/2 NL games in the country I'd say the Horseshoe is relatively tough, but you probably have an edge if you were beating NL25.
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03-19-2012 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SycoMosh
so i havent played any real poker since black friday hit... i managed to grind from 2nl up to 25nl and once i was starting to make 25nl my new home, then shtf...

i totally dont have a roll for live that i feel comfortable playing, nor a way to currently get one..

how feasible would it be to bring 1-2 $200 buyins and nit it up hoping to try and start a roll from nothing? i figure 2 buyins max im done until i can afford another 2 buyins to try again.. anything i win will be put into a non-touchable bankroll. id be looking to play on friday/saturday night at first and if i ever do end up being able to grind up a roll, obviously increase volume and expand to more off-peak days (test the waters)

i know variance will play a part and thats fine with me. even though id be on a relatively non-existent roll, im not worried about pushin it in when i know it should go in.

is this doable from someone with my "experience" level?

keep in mind, ive never stepped foot inside of a casino, and therefore have never played live, other than with some dumb fishy kids in a home game.. i know ill be really shaky and nervous my first time playing in a casino..

what are the thoughts from you regs? would the games feel tough to me? (fwiw, i didnt think 25nl was too bad, hell maybe easier than 10 nl on ftp, but i did get a bit of run cold at the beginning but i never got the chance to settle in) - obviously its hard to say where exactly im at as far as skill is concerned, but i def feel like im competent but not a shark

im sure this may be a weird question to answer, but could you try? i plan to try either way whenever i get the chance, but would like to have a legit idea bout what to expect since there seems to be so many polarizing opinions on the skill level of this room

thanks!
I don't think the games will feel tough as long as you are thinking in terms of big blinds. In fact, I think you will be amazed at how passive the table will be and how many great spots will come your way, that frankly, we're not there on line. GL
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03-19-2012 , 07:52 PM
ill throw this out there... i was playing 25nl before black friday. i have recently started playing 1/2 live put in 8 sessions for about 80 hours total - so far 7 winning sessions 1 break even. most of the players are very conscious of not making the big mistake but have many slow bleed leaks that you can exploit over time in small and med size pots. a lot of stack size sifferences youll be 250bb deep with a few people at the table and there will at the same time be a couple players constantly buying in for $50 busting and rebuying. big thing - adjust your preflop raise sizes immediately. flops will regularly be seen by 4-5 people even after a 12 or 15 dollar open raise. the games arent tough. light 3 betting in these games is very profitable as is squeezing since there are so many callers who will put 15 out there with j9 suited or w/e. you can then 3 bet someone literally without looking at your cards as long as you know the first raiser isnt a complete nit because you know for 100% fact nobody flats behind with a big hand in these games and theyre very willing to fold pre when you show that kind of aggro.

there are however a decent amount of fish who will just call your light 3bs with crap. be conscious of who tgese really bad players are and if theyre in these hands or not. against them you simply show them the best hand... no creativity required. ex hand from yesterday i played - i got short after some missed flops and cbets. i had 75 in front of me (i dont mind playing short in these games because i think its easy exploit these games playing short by just having a nice size reshove stack that you can jam with over an open and the usual 3-5 callers) there was a straddle and about 5 callers. i get kjo in sb and ship my whole stack. someone in ep calls me with j10, everyone else folds. the dynamics are very different than online. it will take some restrategizing and some getting used to but if you beat 25nl online youre v likely profitable in the shoe 1-2 games. theres usually 1 or 2 other good players at the table with me.
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03-19-2012 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
1/2 PLO is tough because I'm in it.

If you try to grind up a roll from $400 in 1/2 NL, I'd say your chances of success are 10-30% if you're a winning player. Compared to other 1/2 NL games in the country I'd say the Horseshoe is relatively tough, but you probably have an edge if you were beating NL25.
full ring 1-2 plo sounds like a simple nut mining festival to me... no?

even still im sure half the table is bad at even nut peddaling since its live poker
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03-19-2012 , 08:33 PM
thanks for the info - from everything ive read it sounds like the strategy i have in mind for these games will be profitable - i think what concerns me the most is ending up at a table full of regs n not knowing it right away.. id likely be playin nitty at first, then when i see who the lagfish are take em to value town.. as for the regs, im sure ill figure it out soon enough, n start figuring out where to play back at em..

sounds like its just gonna be basically value pwning fish who will let me get away with betting way too much with my good hands n be clueless about it..

n then figuring out what my image is to the regs, how they may play vs me with the style they seem to play n counter-act that..

i figure if i end up with the solid regs id be lookin for a table change ( would u just ask the floor n they ask what table you want or do they randomly assign u to a new one? ) - keeping position on them n just keepin a solid image n waiting for them to adjust to my strat to hit em with the other once they may try floating cbets or whatever

but overall looking to avoid solid players til i have more of a bankroll pad to start maximizing profits.. i dont mind playing back at regs by any means, but obviously will look to avoid it n get at the fish first n foremost

and i cant say i was beating 25nl - it started well imo, but black friday prevented me from obtaining a relevant sample, but i really didnt feel like it was gonna be any trouble..

i just hope if i hit up friday/saturday i can actually find fish n not end up wit all the regs.. i think my strat CAN work, although ill DEF DEF DEF need some run good.

cant wait til i can get my feet wet.. this lil guppy wants to swim
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03-19-2012 , 08:50 PM
yeah theres still the players who overvalue top pair and overpair hands. not many people play their draws aggressively. they are largely content to just call and play abc from there. there are some good regs. i try to not sit with young guys. this may be profiling or disciminatory but its also true imo; i want to play with old people, possibly women, asians, and other assorted minorities. its not a rule that these players cant be good, but they just generally arent. theyre more likely to be very passive or very gambly both of which its easy to design your counter strategy. when youre given your table and seat keep this in mind. if you dont like the look or play of the table go to the front desk and ask for table changes until youre happy.
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