Good morning everyone! Sorry it took a couple days to respond however I did want to come on and respond to a few of the questions asked about our new rake structure. Yes, we are now going to a new $5+$2 rake structure where we will not be pulling that 6th dollar at $60. We will however be pulling a 2nd dollar for the Bad Beat + Promotional Fund pool at $20.

This was a move that has been contemplated for quite some time. Ultimately, we saw the results of some of our more aggressive promotions such as Pumpkin Dump on Halloween ($1000 Hourly High Hands), and Cincinnati's recent promo giving out $4K to random players over the course of the day. We felt like the concession that we would make on the 6th rake dollar would be made up for by the gain in tables that we would get by running these types of promos on a regular basis.

So yes, we fully understand that those middling pots mostly in 1/2NL and 4/8Limit will see an extra dollar pulled ($20-$50 pots). We are hoping that the player perspective will see more positives in having a packed room with tons of action and the potential to win a lot of money more often by way of the Promotional Fund as more of a positive than the negative of losing a few dollars to the player fund on those middling pots. And of course we are confident that it is a wise business decision that the addition of more tables will offset the loss of that 6th rake dollar that we are giving up.

I will also tell you all that we have changed the allocation of those Bad Beat drop dollars. We used to allocate the BBJ drop money as follows: 25% Primary BBJ, 15% Secondary BBJ and 60% Promo Fund. We are now allocating 6.25% Primary BBJ, 3.25% Secondary BBJ and 90% Promo Fund. So as you see, not only will we almost double the Promo Fund growth with the extra dollar, we will even more than double it with the new allocations. So as you can guess, we will be very aggressive with our promotions going forward.

With that said, there are some questions on what we are running for April. Unfortunately, I want to stay within the guidelines I have been given by the moderators here, and I wont advertise what we are running directly on this thread. I will tell you that the promotions should be displayed on Facebook and Twitter later this afternoon assuming our marketing team gets us a PDF suitable for posting. I feel I can also tell you that we are projected to use over $200,000 in Promotional Dollars in April, almost over 3X what we will spend in March. You all are more than welcome to PM me as well with direct questions.

Thanks for your continued interest everyone, let's keep Columbus poker great and I hope to see you all in the room soon!

Dave

Thanks for taking the time to give us insight on the changes to the room. While I always would prefer a lower rake, it's good to see the majority of funds going to get people into the room and promote a winning atmosphere. Wishing you and the team there the best of luck!

- yurk

What is the rule on switching tables? I got into it with a dealer the other night when I tried to switch to another table after taking a bad beat.

I assume the rule is dependant upon whether Hero has chips and if s/he is going to a table with same stakes.

Pretty standard in all the rooms, this one does it the same way. If you voluntarily move tables, you can only take the table max to the new table. If you switch to a different stakes game, you can only take the table max to the new table. The only way you can keep your stack higher than table max is if you are involuntarily moved to a same-stakes game at another table by the casino (e.g. your table breaks).

This could be misinformation but I was under the impression that at Cincy when switching to same stakes/game, you cannot take chips from stack but can bring more than table max if accumulated through game play or promotion

So if table max is 300 and I have 400 in my stack, then i must bring it all

This is the way it is in cleveland too. As long as it's the same game and stakes you take your whole stack, even if it is above the table max.

Voluntary moves, a player must take his entire stack unless that stack exceeds the table max, then you must chip down to the table max.

Involuntary moves (tables breaks), player has options. Can take entire stack as long as it does not exceed the big stack at a particular table, or may chip down as long as it is not less than the table minimum.

Also, feel free to ask for a floor for rules verifications. I would prefer it if players don't "get into it" with the dealers.

I'm not a big fan of the rule. Hate to see someone go South by table changing and hate to not be able to bring my whole stack when my table breaks.

I think the rake change will be good for the room. The room as well as the players should benefit from better promotions and the increased number of players they will bring in.

You didn't comprehend this then... if your table breaks you can take your entire stack even if it's above table max.

That's not what Dave just said:


Just tryin' to help.

Everyone knew that tr3v didn't have a clue when he said there's a "pretty standard" way.

Doh!

I was actually a grown up for once and just went and played high limit slots. I wasn't trying to be confrontational and just ended it. The previous hand I had got it in on flopped nut flush vs over pair and run out came set, boat in a large pot. I didn't say anything and just got up and sat at the table behind me with the chips I had from craps earlier and the dealer at the original table yells at me and the other dealer at the new table that I couldn't switch tables. I wasn't in the mood to argue but stood up and kind of shook my head or something and the bald floor guy (nice guy) saw the commotion and was on his way over but I just kept on walking. I wish I would have taken a floor ruling because I assume I was right but I was feeling pretty dejected that the card gods hated me and embarassed that a scene was being caused by the dealer.

It was around 11:30 right after a promo ended so there wasn't a list or anything that I was cutting. It just kind of steamed my beans because I'm there 5-10 times a month and see a lot of regs switching tables no problem then this ******* calls me out after I took a pretty annoying beat.

Newbie question: What is the procedure you should use to change tables? Does it differ when there are obviously open seats at other tables? Does it differ based on whether there is a list or not? Does it differ if you're changing stakes/games?

Thanks!

Just find a floorperson and ask to be put on a transfer list. If we can move you right away, we will. We just have to assure that a table transfer keeps the tables as even as possible.

That is why LongDTravis was asked to go back to his original table. Unfortunately, we cant watch every single player at every single minute, so I'm sure there are some folks who transfer tables without asking, however, that's the process that any room has to avoid complete chaos!

Some folks? That is literally on of the worst parts of playing in the room when there are big promotions/a lot of tables going on. There are at least 5-6 extremely regular people of varying skill levels that jump tables every down or two. Some do it because they aren't good by most standards and it's a way to prolong their gameplay by keeping only a certain amount of money at risk. Some creep on dealers and follow them around. Others seems to be doing it for strategic reasons.

Regardless, it is annoying and screws over people who stay parked this to varying degrees financially or by draining their psychic energy. I'm usually pretty buzzed - maybe bordering on drunk - when I play and I have noticed that these same people do this, I can't help but wonder how the floor or dealers wouldn't see a pattern in this.

It is very disappointing that this rule got applied to me when I was in a sad state but even more importantly when others don't have the rule applied. I am glad the rule is being enforced overall. The dealers have no problem enforcing the first buy-in at cage rule, I assume due to management emphasis. Why don't other rules get enforced uniformly, especially when they actually affect gameplay?

For what it's worth, I think that cetacean is probably not a noob based on his account activity. That question set up the response to make the complaining customer (me) look like a dick for getting pissed when it's all said and done. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was controlled by someone working at the room.

Thanks, that helps.


Heh. Started playing online in the mid 2000s, and joined 2+2 shortly thereafter. So, I know poker pretty well, but I have played in casinos maybe a dozen times in my life. Four of those were at Hollywood Columbus, 2 of which were tournaments where table selection isn't relevant. The last time I played at Hollywood, two clear regs came to my table, sat down and were clearly (and loudly) scoping out who to bumhunt. The entire table got up and dispersed, and that made me curious about how the table change procedure should work. I assure you, if someone is making you look foolish, it's not me.

Well bro thanks for replying. I have seen MGMT at hwood do screwy things and I wouldn't put it past them. The poker and dining folks seem nice but the folks that run that place are idiots and scummy. I think the poker and dining people have their hands tied a lot and it reflects poorly upon them truth be told.

I cannot wait until they lose their monopoly and are forced to compete with another full casino. Rumor from some of the cool older regs is that it could be spring 2018. Not to get political but I think a lot of people saw how ridiculous the casinos were ran in Ohio with monopolies and that's why no one voted for legal grass.

Most of the regs at the poker room are the nut low. The ones that were loudly "bumhunting" were probably terrible but intimidating. It chaps my ass that some people can just walk around from table to table like they own the place.

It took me a long time to realize that no one playing 1/2 is a pro and probably isn't a semipro so there is nothing to be intimidated by. Nothing is worse than listening to the younger guys who are just terribly sick degenerate kids discussing strategy or being less than cordial to the rec players.

The dealers typically aren't the ones policing table jumpers at all. Very little chance that a dealer had their eyes on where you went after you left their table. 99 out of 100 times a player at the table sees a player get up and sit somewhere else. They tell the dealer and for the sake of running their game and following the rules, they call the floor to handle the situation.

Also, I'd suggest that perhaps the players that you see hopping tables actually have permission. I have asked repeat offenders of this rule to leave the room for the evening. Many of the regulars that you speak of have been conditioned that there are consequences for table jumping. I even have one reg who asks to be put on a transfer list before he even sits down at his first table. When he sees a seat he wants, he will come to the front and ask if it is OK.

Again, this is never something that can be policed 24/7. People generally know the rule, and there are consequences for breaking it. Whether it be a warning and telling them to go back to their original seat or ejection for repeat offenders. Will there be people who table jump without permission because the floor didnt see it or the other players at the table didnt see/care? Of course.

Regardless, thank you for the feedback and we will be more aware that perhaps this is happening more than we realize, and react accordingly.

Good luck with that. There have been rumors of table games at Scioto
Downs ever since they opened.
It will be at least 6 years till table games will be introduced anywhere.
Business analysts already say that Ohio is oversaturated with gaming locations. Any company that would want to push changing the law (state constitution) would be risking a blow to their stock. Also pretty sure Rock Gaming and Penn would put up a pretty good fight.

So the Spring tournament is coming up, is it going to be packed ? What will the conditions be like. Lots or alternates ?? Looking to choose between HPT an Columbus tourney..


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Someone at my table just said they are bringing back splash the pots as the promotion next month (May.) Is there any truth to that? I think people have strong feelings both ways about splash pots but they sure make other places a lot of fun. It's a shame I can't remember the room having a splash promo in quite some.

I think everyone likes them compared to promos involving tourney seats. To me giving away tourney seats is pretty annoying because it discourages out of towners and supplements the casino's guarantee entries at the expense of the promo fund.

Any updates on being able to use our promo funds for foodstuffs since there will be dinner breaks in the tournament series?

What is the reasoning behind allowing a player to chip down on a table change? This is the first room I've heard that has this practice. Are you trying to protect the 'new' table somehow from a big stack?

Everywhere else I've been forces the player to keep all chips in play unless there is a change in stakes .. not 'just' a change in tables.

It would seem that Bravo would help the floor watch the table jumpers but in a busy room but it certainly needs to be a team effort between dealer, floor and Bravo .. and perhaps players who don't want a player to leave their table!!

Cedar Point season is close ... time to start spending some time in your room!! GL

I cannot dislike this rule more than I do.

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