Bbjp just hit at a 1/2 table.

Dickwiggle, concerning smoking, how many poker rooms in the country are smoking rooms? All that I know of ( definitely not all of the rooms in the US ) are smoke free.

SpartanDoug there were 20 full time dealers unfortunately laid off during a slow period a few months back and that has affected the staffing situation. They are working to bring the staffing levels back to where they need to be.

Dickwiggle, B_O_K_E is considered a valued member of the Ohio poker community. Though he says he only speaks for himself, he does look towards the good of the community and game. You may not agree w his views but his intentions are positive.

lol djj is one of the better posters in here. He always has a level head and can fathom the long term picture of what would be good for the room. Find some other person to single out if you want a leg to stand on about trolling. To be honest, you seem like you might be a bit socially awkward in a certain way that I can't put a finger on. It doesn't invalidate your opinions themselves, but the way you are communicating them seems a bit off and it's definitely hurting the way your posts are being received by readers.

You seem to have a problem with people having input to the room management that benefits their own personal needs, but you have no problem with wanting to express your wants and needs (smoking), even though if they allowed that, it would be a negative impact on the room. It's a bit hypocritical to say that BOKE's ideas, which haven't even been defined or discussed since you showed up here, should not be allowed because he has stated that they would be of personal benefit to himself, and then for you to go on and on and on about smoking. Smoking would benefit a very small minority and it would drive many many people away. It would be harmful to the long term of the room and they should never do it, state law or not.

As for your ideas about these "secret meetings", these meetings SHOULD be with regs and not just a random selection of randoms in the room at any given time. As someone I just spoke to recently said about longevity of a poker room, "regulars are how games get started and how you ensure that there are always games running". If there are no regs, when the casual player strolls in, there may not be a game going at that exact time. 30 players might show up up one at a time over the course of several hours at 20 minute intervals, as opposed to them all showing up within a 5 minute window together. If the games aren't going with a few open seats here and there, the casual player isn't going to sit around and wait. They're going to come back another day (if at all). If that process repeats itself, the casual player will stop trying because there's never a game going. Obviously everyone here knows this stuff but the point is that the regulars are needed for the life of the room.

The problem with any group meeting between management and the regulars is that the goals of each party involved are not in line with each other. The goals of the room are "make the most money for the room", while the goals of the players are "make the most money for my own personal wallet". I'm sure it's great for the management to hear a bunch of ideas on how to cater to the regulars. The problem though, is that the regulars' ideas are not generally tailored to what will be good for the long term life of the room, which is truly what they SHOULD be thinking about. Too many ideas and thought processes are geared around "what can I do to make more money today" instead of "how can I make sure this place is around for years to come".

I don't want to start another discussion on the capped vs uncapped and minimum buy-ins and 100% rule, etc. I just wanted to point out why the meeting SHOULD be with regs. It's up to the room and management though, to decide how they want to use that feedback to benefit the room, while trying to do what they can to keep the regs happy. They need the regs more than they know, but at the same time, they can't cater to them 100% because what the regs want doesn't necessarily line up with what the room itself wants.


I know this probably seems like a bunch of rambling. It's what I do =P

Thanks for the kind words Reid. Personally I think the panel did a really good job of bringing up issues to better the health of the room that didn't necessarily go along with their personal preferences. It remains to be seen whether they work but in theory the changes should have a positive effect.

If you want to bring up smoking as an issue then go right ahead. I can tell you nothing will happen but you can try.

What's not ok is coming in to this thread to make fallacious remarks about respected, not so anonymous posters. Calling people you don't even know angle shooters and alleging that somehow many of the regulars are behaving unethically is completely out of line. Especially in a thread like this where many posters know each other.

I'd like to go on record and say I don't actually know who anyone on here even is, even if a few know who I am. I'm just posting as a poster on an online forum and I haven't even played in the casino more than a handful of times in the last 12 months.

I just deleted a few posts containing personal attacks and discussion regarding smoking. If you want to discuss the merits of smoking in public places, etc., please try OOT or another off-topic forum. Please PM me with any questions or comments or post in the Moderation Discussion Thread rather than further derailing this thread. Thanks!

To be honest, you seem like you might be a bit socially awkward in a certain way that I can't put a finger on.

Calling individuals out in the thread honestly serves no purpose

BOKE's ideas, which haven't even been defined or discussed since you showed up here, should not be allowed because he has stated that they would be of personal benefit to himself

Everyone speaks from their own position of self interest or ability; doesn't matter who they are

these "secret meetings", these meetings SHOULD be with regs and not just a random selection of randoms in the room at any given time.

Views of a vocal minority seldom align with the silent majority.

There has been a lot of research on this (in real life) and likely the case in this thread.

goals of the room are "make the most money for the room"

This is true

goals of the players are "make the most money for my own personal wallet"

This is also true

regulars' ideas are not generally tailored to what will be good for the long term life of the room, which is truly what they SHOULD be thinking about.

This is the stone-nuts!

I just wanted to point out why the meeting SHOULD be with regs.

This is unclear.

Giving other players action does not create more entitlement for feedback.

Giving less action does not create less entitlement for feedback.

They need the regs more than they know

This is only partially true. Regs are the second most important people in the room, next to the dealers.

They provide a valuable service which is giving other players action for hour-upon-hour.

They're rewarded though comps, promotions, etc... to think there is any other entitlement is tilting.

And this is where Columbus has so many short comings, particularly in the area of a low promotion spend (check the occ revenue reports)

they can't cater to them 100% because what the regs want doesn't necessarily line up with what the room itself wants.

This is true again

Working with the leadership to take a broad survey of the player majority and work from there ... the room would be a better place.

Anybody else notice how disgusting the restrooms are at this place? No lie, I was there last night and someone had literally took a dump in the urinal! I could not believe it. There is always urine on the floor and it smells gross. When i'm at a casino for 6-12 hours grinding, I typically visit the men's room at least once. It really puts me on tilt when I go into the stall to pinch off a load and there is piss on the seats.

Lol I'm a little too OCD to dump in public restrooms, but I agree they're disgusting.

Low quality hand soap as well.

Very gross, when you told management what was their response ???

I haven't placed a formal complaint. If they are dumb enough to not know how bad they are already, I don't think me complaining would solve anything. Plus by the sounds of things, people have been complaining for since this place opened and things haven't changed.

Wish I lived closer to Cincinnati again, casino was so much better. Although I have been enjoying the action in Cbus. Running like god x tons of fish = nice profits so far for me. I can't complain too much, don't want to be black balled.

This is exactly why we need a suggestion box or if people just need a panel, to have the panel delegates be elected and their identities conspicuously posted throughout the card room. People are scared to complain out of fear of being blackballed which is a shame to hear in a state regulated casino. I'm telling you this place is gonna be worse than the sharktank if someone doesn't step in.

Dude you are the customer, they aren't going to ban/blackball you for complaining about the condition of the restrooms. Let's assume they were that crazy, it would be your benefit not to deal with that Establishment and just go to Cleveland or Cinci....

If there is something wrong tell management about it cinstantly. If that doesn't work, escalate to the public health authorities

Well that would be an option except for the fact that my time is finite and Obama's in bed with his oil buddies. I can't justify 4 hours in the car and $30 bucks in gas three times a week when I can hop on 270 and be in a seat in 15 minutes and 2 bucks in gas. If I retired or we weren't living in Obama's America I agree that I could just take my business on up or down the road but right now it's not an option for me or a lot of other guys and gals.

The average gallon of gas in the US in May 2003 cost $1.34 and in July 2008 it cost $4.12 (60-80 cents more than the average is today). Right, 100% Obama's fault. I'm not even an Obama supporter or a Democrat and I can look past this nonsensical post of yours. God I hate shortsided people like you who spew hate towards one side without sitting back and looking at the big picture or their own side's faults.

BACK TO THE TOPIC, the casino survives because of its customer base. If they aren't happy, the casino suffers. Find someone with any sort of authority and discuss with them how disgusting the restrooms are. If that doesn't work, elevate it to someone above them. Horseshoe Cincinnati has a large staff who constantly keep the restrooms clean. In fact, I think more than half the time I'm in the restroom there is someone cleaning. Just compare Hollywood's cleanliness to Horseshoe's (their biggest competitor) and they'll listen.

Knock it off guys.

Guys calm down I was just saying that gas prices were high but if something changes that would cause them to drop I'd be able to consider another casino

Apologies (specifically to dickwiggle) if I was out of line.

Hey guys, hoping to get some info for a regular at this casino. Im passing through Columbus March 27th weekend and saw a heads up tournament and want to play it. Am I able to buy into it or do I have to win a tournament? Is anyone selling their seat who already won a tournament?

Apology accepted, sorry I speak in hyperbole sometimes. Didn't think it would fire everyone up because the point I was making seemed pretty clear. Agree with the on topic portion of your post, unfortunately I'm stuck unless cbus gets approved for another casino.

Unfortunately you can only satellite into this tourny. The final satellite event is on the 27th. It's a $120 buy in and 16 people qualify. I doubt anyone would be willing to sell since no one is winning seats any other way other than the satellites.

How many runners have the tournies been getting so far?

There is one running tonight and it has 38.

i can't catch a break in those damn things, tonight no exception