haha it was pretty obvious what was going on when the bad beat was dealt! A lot of clapping and cheering and people rushing over to see.

What's first Donni?

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I am ultra short 8 handed. Need some major rungood.

Run good! Run good! Run good!

Did ya get there??

I was playing when it hit. lots of cheering. I was very jealous

Wish I had stopped by the tourny tables. Was playing some 1/2 before I went back down to the dice tables.

Bummer that u didn't win it Donniccolo.

Which table were you at? I was there playing too when it hit.

2/5 at table 5 I believe

If you got this to be a regular thing, I would consider driving a long way (from St. Louis) to play it. The challenge is to make it become regular.

The only way this will happen is if the players organize it and have at least 12 at the casino to start it. Players sign up but then take seats in other games then won't get up to start new games and the new game never start.

Awesome! Come over during a Blues game, it's easier/cheaper to get tickets here.

I talked to the floor again yesterday and they said to talk to Matt, who was interested. I suggested HORSE and BOTE. In effect they said if I had a list of 10 guys they'd get it going on a Sunday to check it out, but to start with HORSE and then if it worked they'd branch out. So I'm building the list.

I don't believe draw (2-7, A-5, Badugi, etc.) is approved by OCCC in Ohio yet. The casino would have to apply for permission.

The way the law is written any game approved by any neighboring state is automatically approved in Ohio. So since Indiana has badugi, etc, presto! So now does Ohio. This was something the anti-campaign brought up a lot in the campaign to get the casinos (do we really want to be letting other states dictate what the state of Ohio does? Etc).

But the floor guys said that'd already been checked off, so... We're cool.

I did not. I have talent tho. Talent for running smack into aces lol.

I will be back and I will win that MTT.

Thanks for the support!

I'm an absolute mixed game fanatic, love all those games you mentioned, and I would love to get a regular (weekly? monthly? Though I would prefer a day other than Thursday) game going. If we could play baduci in Columbus, Ohio on a regular basis, I might faint.

I know a couple others who would probably be down for it, too. However, 5/10 is the high side of my bankroll's limit. What are the chances we could run it as 4/8? Doesn't sound like a big difference, I suppose. But at 4/8 I bet we'd have a few curious players give it a try.

Noted. So I talked to the manager, and he was open to it, but said I have to produce a list of about 20 names to make it run. They felt they did market research and no one was interested in stud games, so the dealers haven't been taught it, and they feel it would have to be a weekly thing to make it worth that time. He said he'd had one other person ask for such things.

I pitched directly a HORSE game on Sundays, expanding to a BOTE game later, and he was open to both. I'm not super married to 5/10, but I think to get the regs interested enough it can't seem too close to 3/6.

Anyhow, if you have some folks, pm me, and I'll add them to the list. I think I'm 1/2 way there.

If the bolded is true, then I have an exciting new game I'd like to market to casinos in neighboring states. It's called "Border War Blackjack". The rules are exactly the same as regular blackjack, except that blackjack pays 100:1 if you're in Ohio and 3:2 if you're in any other state.

Tell me what you guys think of this situation.

At the 1/2 table I was heads up with Joe and first to act. On the river I check and Joe puts out a bet. I grab my cards. Joe pushes his cards clear across the yellow bet line. His cards do not touch the board or the muck and the dealer does not touch them. Dealer tells me its $xx to go. I tell the dealer that Joe mucked. Dealer says his cards were not raked in and did not touch the muck.

The pot was small so I let it go. Had the pot been large I would have called the floor. What do you guys think? Are Joe's cards dead?

he made a bet and your trying to get his cards mucked? sounds pretty sketchy on your part if u ask me

Did he make a mucking motion like tossing them in face down, or did he just slide them toward the dealer in an attempt to "be cool" by showing you that he "knew" you wouldn't call the bet. I think this sort of stuff is silly gamesmanship that people think means more than it does. As for trying to get his hand called dead, I think that's a waste of time for everyone at the table. That's just my opinion of course. I try to keep shenanigans at the table to a minimum.

Hand is not dead until the cards hit the muck. If he had clearly mucked his cards, the dealer *should have scooped them and put them in the muck pile. The betting line is a courtesy line, nothing more.

In a frozen snapshot of the situation, Joe's hand is 100% live at that moment. However, the dealer should muck any hand that is thrown forward immediately (assuming he actually mucked them forward in a folding motion.) It is the players responsibility to protect their hand. However, if the players action is unclear (IE: he barely threw them forward and it wasn't a clear forward muck in a folding motion), dealer should immediately ask: "Is that a fold?"

If any of you 1/2 players ever wanted to take a shot at 2/5, FYI today's game is super friendly.

LOL.

It is, in fact, true. From the text of the constitutional amendment:

"Allow at these four casino facilities the types ofslot machine and lable game wagering cunently authorized
in, and any future slot machine and lable game wagering aulboriud in, any of the neighboring Slates of
Indiana, Michiglln, Pennsylvania. and West Virginia."

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/uploa...009/3-text.pdf

Also, from Ohio Revised Code:

3772.01 Definitions.

(E) “Casino gaming” means any type of slot machine or table game wagering, using money, casino credit, or any representative of value, authorized in any of the states of Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia as of January 1, 2009, and includes slot machine and table game wagering subsequently authorized by, but shall not be limited by, subsequent restrictions placed on such wagering in such states. “Casino gaming” does not include bingo, as authorized in Section 6 of Article XV, Ohio Constitution and conducted as of January 1, 2009, or horse racing where the pari-mutuel system of wagering is conducted, as authorized under the laws of this state as of January 1, 2009.

(Y) “Table game” means any game played with cards, dice, or any mechanical, electromechanical, or electronic device or machine for money, casino credit, or any representative of value. “Table game” does not include slot machines.

3772.08 Licensed operators; permitted activities.
(A) Casino gaming shall be conducted only by licensed casino operators of the four casino facilities or by a licensed management company retained by a licensed casino operator.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3772

TL/DR: amendment and following laws clarified that any game ok in neighboring states is good in Ohio.

/thread derail

Asked the same question yesterday of the dealer. Essentially the above, kind of the "if easily recoverable" then it's still live. Has to be in the muck or verbally "I Fold" essentially.