Hello all,

I will throw this one out to the field so here goes......
For those who do play brick and mortar LHE I have a question. The 10/20 limit game is very, very, loose. Sometimes in my opinion maybe not playable. Usually 6 to 8 callers on the flop (even when the half kill is in) I guess my statement would be if there are more bad players than good players on the table it becomes a bingo event. Does anyone have solid advice on how or if you can make a consistent profit it this situation? Any Hollywood regulars please feel free to chime in as well. It seems that this room maybe one of the loosest rooms on the planet and how do you take advantage of that when 6 out of the 10 players are drawing you down over and over. The 5/10 limit game is the same or worse. Then we have the crazy 1/2 NL shoot out. That's a whole nother story. I am not new to playing in Casinos but this situation is just getting ridiculous. I have tried different strategies and alot of times end up just shaking my head. By the way, has anyone that frequents Hollywood notice that there is also very little consistency in rulings? Okay I am done. I await your help and thanks for listening to the rant.

Play 1/2 NL there pretty regularly and minus the rake being what it is, I find it a super soft and very profitable game. Won't play limit there as I feel the same way about their limit games where its common for 4+ players to make it to showdown. (lol) I have noticed what you mean with their rulings also, depends on who is running the room at the time I guess. I do like Lisa quite a bit as she seems the nicest and most fair/intelligent with decisions.

you should read up on poker strategy.. loose/weak/calling stations are what make games like this profitable. not the other way around. The rake at hollywood is something terrible, they really rob the players blind (something like $8 per hand at the 1/2NL game, and $6 at the limit games) and thats with no jackpot drop/no comps of any kind. However the players there make up for this.

I personally had a great winrate there when I played the game regularly for about a month. the regulars who play there almost everyday are absolutely horrible. Im not sure if some of them even know the rules of poker.. sometimes it can feel like bingo, but thats standard variance. If they had more than 1.5 tables running and it didnt take 2+hours to actually get in the games there, I would play everyday.

When did Hollywood get NL? The last time I was in there they only had a few $5/10 games going and a list of like 40 names. I walked out and vowed never to return even though I am out in Aurora frequently.

Hello all,

Thanks for the replies. I would be interested in any good books or videos in regards to how to handle the crazy. 10/20 LHE at Hollywood. The pots are huge. I agree with your replies. I agree with the issue with consistancy and the floor person you said. She is very nice and does do her job to the best of her ability. I will give the run down on the current games. 5/10 limit, (daily) 10/20 limit (daily), 20/40 limit (rare but still happens), 1/2 NL (daily) , 2/5 NL (offered daily but usually only gets off once or twice a week). I have read some books on LHE and they do not cut it at Hollywood. I would love to see a great thead on Hollywood Aurora Casino. I also would love to hear from anyone who has found a great book on how to beat the (10/20 ATC>>>>any two cards will play game) with the famous 6 person draw down.
Looking forward to more replies.

Suited connectors rock in big pot games. The swings I'm sure will be sick though. What days does the 10/20 usually go?

The 10/20 goes daily.............As does the 5/10, the 1/2 NL.... the 20/40 goes usually once a week and the 2/5 goes usually twice a week

I play at Hollywood occasionally ONLY because of the nearness to my house. You are dead right that the players are soft in all the games and I was very surprised to see the $10/$20 skill set. I don't like anything about the room including the players and usually head to the Horseshoe if I want a marathon session.

By contrast, I have played the the Argosy (soon to be Hollywood) in Lawrenceburg, IN and that room is run VERY well with a great mix a players. Both are owned by Penn so you would think they would try to be more consistent.

As for what to do to protect yourself, I think you really need to be aware of you position in these games and know your competitions' skill set. Keep the pots small when you don't have a locked hand and punish them with raises when you do.

Hmm, the games not well run out there? That's no good. I've been looking for something consistent in the 6/12 to 15-30 range, but the midlimit games at the shoe are spotty, and even worse due to the wsop.

Made the mistake of hitting the Shoe South Indiana last weekend, no limit action bigger than 3/6 full kill. They had a 30/60 stud going, wish I could play that high...

Not sure where you live CM but have you tried the Pot in Milwaukee? They get some decent higher stakes limit games going regularly.

Is this Aurora Illinois?

Isnt that where Waynes World was set?

Yeah, it's that Aurora, and I swear I played with Garth's younger brother the other night. The 10/20 half kill is as loose and spazzy as advertised, pretty much a red chip 3/6 game. 3 players were seeing a showdown per pot, 5-9 seeing a flop, however there was not much preflop 3betting, but a fair amount of raises that were called around. The pots were so large you just had to win every third river seen to make some decent money.

The 20/40 seems to go Tu/Th, and that game looked to be just slightly "tougher". It's a nice little room that I may hit again depending on traffic, since I'm on the northside of Chicago and going out that way in the evening means hitting the Naperville-bound commute. Note, the 1/2NL max rake is $8, but the 10/20 limit max is $6.

haven't been to Aurora for quite a while because mostly playing Cicago area NL & similar experiences (long wait lists etc) - agree with suggestion of The Pot in Milwaukee for limit...you might try newish room at Grand Victoria, small with 6 tables, but, they use a phone-text notify for your seat, dealers are good & I think they have at least 2 limit tables - unsure stakes...the NL is 1/2 and 2/5.

Is the 10/20 limit Holdem game still going regularly here?

I have played five sessions here in the last few months. The 1/2 NL game is extremely weak. If you are looking for a lot of crazy action I wouldn't recommend it, but if you are willing to grind out a long session by taking lots of small-medium size pots this room is perfect. The game is full of a bunch of old nitty regulars who play nothing but ABC poker. I played a 14 hour session there on Saturday, came out 4 buy-ins to the good and I don't think I played a single pot over $120. I am not saying I am the greatest reader of hands, but most of the time these guys might as well have been playing their cards face up. That has been my experience every trip to this casino. The biggest problem is getting in the game in the first place because they usually are only running 2 tables of NL and nobody ever leaves the game. I was 4th on the list one day and waited 3.5 hours.
I have played the 10/20 game here and personally wouldn't ever touch it again. Everything said about it in earlier posts is accurate, 5-6 players min per pot and 3-4 to showdown regularly. My biggest problem with that game though is that it is full of a bunch of miserable pricks. Tons of arguments at the table and made me depressed just sitting there.

I haven’t been there since September. The poker room manager told me then that players can now call in advance to be put on a waiting list. When I play at Hollywood I usually get there after midnight on a Wednesday or Thursday. I waited less than forty minutes and found the games loose and very soft.

Shouldn't I be drooling over a 10/20 lhe game with 6 players per flop with lots of cold calling? Does this game still run regularly? I would think sshe strategy would be very profitable. Rake is $6? No bbj drop? Horseshoe is $5 with $1 bbj drop for 3/6. I would think if properly rolled, Hollywood 10/20 would be best for those tired of 3/6 but still a bit scared of and undercooked for horseshoe 20/40. Am I missing something?

Play the 1-2nl regularly ever since they added it during the ISPC. It is so profitable and so soft.... People getting scraped at 1-3 nl dropped down to a more affordable buy in and if you know how to play, there is no way you cant win... plus 750 in last 3 sessions. Only downside is the lack of funds on the felt, 1-3 nl going to 500 max buy in is so juicy, but is a stronger game due to the fish swimming down to 1-2

This is the first I heard about this 10/20 game!!!

If the players do really play like described, all I can say is OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!!!1!!one!!! This is like discovering that Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, and The Tooth Fairy are all really real, and they just moved in next door, and just invited you over for a beer.

These game conditions are all about what SSHE was written about. This is where the term "crushing the game" came from. In 10/20 terms, you should be looking at over $60 per hour, sustainable, maybe even more, since the rake isn't as big a factor as it is in 3/6 or 4/8.

Has there been any LO8 going at the Hollywood? I know they used to have a 10/20 game on Sundays and Fridays... Waste of a drive?

I have heard this on wednesdays, but not confirmed.

Is the 10-20 game still going strong everyday??? If so, is it still the 6-players-to-a-flop game that it used to be?? Thinking of making the trip from chicago

I can confirm everything said about the 10-20 game. It is still going strong, and it is probably the loosest poker you will ever encounter. It can be very profitable but like the OP said, sometimes it can also be very daunting dodging bullets from 6 callers preflop and 3-4 to showdown. It's more like playing bingo...with some skill.

I was there last saturday for the first time and WOW!! This game is just as advertised in this thread.

mainlining drano > going to hollywood aurora

Played 2 days of 1/2-1/3-2/5 lots of pretty scummy people here almost got kicked off table for going to smoke numerous times, waitress stiffed me 2 bucks, and the wait is horrific.