I'm not sure about slots, but Borgata's VP comps are about twice as good as Harrah's. What limit of poker were you playing at Harrah's that Borgata comps better? I was under the impression that CET and Borgata poker comps were comparable, but I play mostly limit so I don't play very often at CET properties.

that was in reference to me walking from Trop/Trump plaza to Caesars. LOL

i would never do that a cab driver did tell us its only 2 miles but youd be walking on the highway pretty much and i wouldnt risk my life over a couple dollars

the jitney website isnt to helpful with routes but it seems that the 123 routes go from boardwalk casinos to the marina district

Trump Plaza is right next door to Caesar's. Literally. Cross the street to get from one to the other.

Walking to the Trop from either of them isn't bad at all - just walk along the boardwalk.

The #2 Jitney goes from the Marina District (Borgata, Harrah's, and Golden Nugget) to all of the Boardwalk casinos. Runs fairly frequently, but I don't recall how often - it is somewhat erratic.

Lee

Got a call that the Bad Beat Jackpot hit last night at the Harrah's Casinos. 150 people won something like $630.

The Tropicana Bad Beat hit too! SO it was a good night for poker players.

Yup! Me and my girl were here, Shipped $631 weee!! Hit around 4AM at Caesars

It has hit 5 times in the past month and I missed every one.

Always hits when I'm a week out from going to AC...

Taj Bad Beat hit for $200,000
Borgata HIt for 50,000
Tropicana Hit for 549,000
and now Harrah's hits, all in 48 hours. WOW!

Stan

Pretty sick run!

Looking forward to the WSOPC at Harrah's and I already booked my room. Sweet!

LOL @ The Trop getting a $500k interest free loan for months on end.

yeah so everyone go back to the borgata where you belong!

+1

I like your location.

Stan

What's sick is that millions and millions of $'s of our money is being paid out every year to just a select few very lucky individuals who are part of the bad beat when it hits while the rest of us are slowly being sucked dry. (Caesars properties has the best model for lowering your losses).

Has anyone figured out how much $ the bad beat has cost them over the last few years?? I have very good estimate. I'm between $13,000-$16,000. And to many many players that's an entire bankroll!!

When they brought the bad beat jackpot to AC they thought they were going to increase traffic to their rooms and increase their bottom line but approximately $25-30MILLION has been paid out in bad beat money that would have otherwise would not have been displaced. That's a lot of money and has surely contributed to the monumental slowing of AC poker rooms.

Wish they'd get rid of it but it's now part of the landscape so they won't.

+1

and as far as the rest of your rant, i tend to agree with most of your points

i know that i was gonna take the shuttle from ceasars to harrahs but thats not happening anymore

so only the # goes to marina from boardwalk?

Did they lose/get rid of some dealers over the last few months? There seems to be more than a few missing that I used to see all the time

Was thinking this the last cpl times i was there..

Heading down tomorrow or wednesday. How's the pink OE doing?

The pink chip game goes almost every day, from what I've seen. Usually starts around 11:00am-ish or so.

Dealers come and go. 'Tis the nature of things. I'm not aware of any big shake up.

Lee

I don't know how much total I've lost but I look at it this way

On an average night for me I win between 20-40 pots over the course of a session. That's $1 for each pot. I don't go and spend $20-40 on lottery tix so why the hell do I want to contribute that much to a BBJ which is nothing more than a lottery IMO? I'm in a poker room to play poker not to wish I get lucky and hit a lottery. I can save gas and stay home to do that. unfortunately there are too many people who chase the BB so it is not about to disappear anytime soon.

Btw, I actually caught a piece of the one at Harrah's last month but while I won't throw the money away it hasn't changed my opinion. I actually got lucky as i was hoping to play the pink game where I wouldn't be eligible but I think the players were all over at the Borg for the Open and the dead money there.

The WSOP Schedule for Harrah's is posted.

http://www.wsop.com/tourney/tourneyd...sp?groupID=845

Excellent, thanks!

Caesar's and other properties introduced the bad beat first to (in their minds)entice players to play in their room's over Borgata I believe. Borgata's "line" has been that they think the bad beat is bad for poker but they had to start one to remain competitive with the other properties. But now all the rooms and 99.9% of the players all suffering as a result of this ("lottery") gimmick cause of a severely depleted player pool.

Tournaments are very similar to the bad beat in how it puts huge $ signs in front of the players but paying the big $ to only a select few. The buy in fees to the poker rooms keep getting higher... there are more and more tournaments cause its the only way outside of the peak months they can get the room anywhere near how a regular day used to be. This of course will only continue to make things worse for the player pool as a whole long term like the bad beat has.

Would be nice if these room managers got together, talked about what they have done to AC poker and make some changes.