played from like 9last night till noon today. slows down from 3am-7am, but still 2-3 tables going [1/2, 2/5, 1/2 plo that broke]. and not bad action. around 7-9 it starts picking back up fast.. the 2/5 game was playing huge for about an hour while the 5/10 crowd filtered in. First losing session since july1 thanks to river madness

I came in late last night around 11, the room was still very busy and list for the 4/8 O8 game but I sat at the 10/20 w/ 1/2 kill O8 game till it broke.

the one thing for sure is the Isle needs more tables, what is going to happen in the winter when all the seasonal people come back? Last night at 11pm there was over 25 tables running. A older guy that was playing all weekend said it was packed all weekend, most tables full and long lists. Is there any plans for more tables? Rumors are flying about removing the upper bar, or taking over the corner of the food court that no one uses plus the balcony. Now is the time, you can really use another 25-30 tables.

2nd time this week someone was complaining about the TV's, older guy wanted to watch the Marlin game and asked for it to be turned on, when they did finally turn it on they put it on a lower TV and he still couldn't see it. He didn't like my joke to much when I said that a good thing now you didn't have to torture yourself watching them lose, my joke would have been better if they lost but they won, I went with the odds, he was still complaining hours after the game ended, typical Omaha player, complains all night long, even after the problem is over.

Are there plans for more TV's, Lebron and company are coming and all the band wagon jumpers are going to want to watch them. Myself I would want more tables then TV's but that is just me.

First time at the Isle and Teddy was not there, I thought they had a cot in the storage room where you slept.
The 10/20 O8 game was good last night, I got there too late but when I did get there they had some nice stacks on the table, I must have looked like a fish at first, had some real nice draws they never got there and folded the river, aces 2 times 1 double suited with a 3,5, raised pre flop on someones kill, flop comes out the other suit all high cards, folded. but won a little in about 45 minutes before table broke around midnight. Played 2/5 NL hold'em picked up another 250 there in a hour, would have been more but my set got sucked out on to a flush.

See you next time, keep posting.

Place was packed last night till just after midnight.
I am still a little disappointed in the games being spread, it isn't the casinos fault but the players all cried they wanted more games and when you go to sign up all you see is Hold'em a Omaha PLO interest list maybe a PLO game and a Omaha 8 game, no stud, no mixed games, just a bunch of Hold'em. Last night there was one interest list for Mixed games, one name on it for 5 or 6 hrs. IMO the Isle is the best room that does get the most games going but they have only had Omaha8 plus a O8/Stud mix and a few PLO games.
Well where are all the players that cried why isn't this or that being spread? The reason none of you come out to play anything but hold'em. I have started list and never get another name on them but mine. No mixed games with a low ball game, nothing but Hold'em.

I went yesterday and I played many sit n go tournaments back to back. As I was leaving around 1AM, another sit n go tournament was about to start. This is a nice change from last Saturday when they completely neglected the sit n go tournaments. Please realize that some people simply suck at cash games and don't want to play them or they have a small bankroll and would rather take a small risk in the sit n goes. Also later on in the night a lot of people end up going to the sit n goes as a last resort, so it's important that you stay on top of starting those sit n goes otherwise the people that would of normally stuck around and played them will just look at the time and leave.

Also will you guys ever change the structure for the sit n goes? The fields aren't that tough so that makes up for the terrible structure but it would be nice to have a structure that rewards skill more than luck. Maybe slowing it down just a little bit?

sit n goes are out of style

I was at The Isle last night and I agree with Gambit, they're def going to need more tables especially when the snow birds migrate down. I didn't have to wait long when I arrived around 8p.m., but when I left around 11:30 to head to the Hard Rock it was packed and the lists were growing large.

They def need more T.V.'s, get them babies ready for the upcoming NBA season, Heat going to be a hot ticket in town!!

I was there last night too, played on table 17, the 4/8 O8 then moved to the other game late. I tried to get a 10/20 game going but there was only 5 on the list. The 4/8 GAME KILLS ME, I play too many hands and no one folds so every time it is a chop, one low card on the board and they chase, chase and chase, against me they also catch catch and catch!

When I was leaving my dash lights and tail light fuse blew, had to drive to Hollywood with no tail lights, got lucky and didn't get pulled over.

8/16 Om8 1/2kill is a much better game IMHO than 10/20 Om8 1/2kill. One reason I say this is that there is more action in the 8/16 game and more people playing to see a flop and more $2 chips then $5 chips creates more action. I'd rather have 3+ players seeing the flop in a 8/16 game (most of the time we have 5+ players seeing a flop) then have 2 tight wads see a flop in a 10/20 game.

We had great 8/16 games running everyday the 1st week (although me and others had to push to get it going); but 1 day a dealer opened his mouth and suggested to the players to turn it in to a 10/20 so he did not have to "stack all" the yellow $2 chips. I left the game in anticipation of me being the only one to object to the change to a 10/20. Within minutes of leaving the game they indeed did change the game to 10/20. Although I've not been there much since (I have other pressing life matters to attend too), it's my understanding from others that neither game (8/16 or 10/20) gets going except for maybe on the weekend.

May I also point out that in the 4/8 Om8 "must move" table, players do not want to move causing problems in keeping the "main game" full for what seems like 15+ more minutes after seats open up in the main game. The word "must" should be adhered to.

Teddy

The 10/20 has gotten going a couple or three times in the past week or so that I know of. I think it probably only stays open a couple or three hours when it does get going, probably a handful of regulars keep it going until about dinnertime.

I agree, they don't use that "must move" table very well. When a seat opens at the main game, the floor comes to the "must move" asks players one-by-one if they want to move to the main game. Player says no. Next player on the list is asked. Player says no. Next player on the list is asked. Floor usually goes through five or six names before someone finally agrees. It's more a "move if you want to" than a "must move."

I was there this afternoon, and this was fixed. Floor was sending the player from the "must move" table who was the earliest to sign up, no exceptions and no option to decline a move.

I was at the "must move" table, right next to the main table. At one point, the player whose turn it was to move to the main game was not at the table. So the floor told the dealer to have the player move to the main game when he returned. But he was gone for quite awhile, and it was funny watching a couple of the older guys at the main table going bat-crazy because there was an empty seat at their table for 15 or 20 minutes. One guy ran to the brush twice to complain, and a guy on the waiting list was stroking out because they wouldn't let him sit in the empty seat at the main table, telling him he had to wait for the guy at the "must move" table to return and then move.

Why wouldnt the supervisor just move his chips over for him, since he has no choice but to move or leave anyway. Then the next player on the list can sit down.

The same happened to me, although when I went to dinner I asked them when it was my turn to move me to the main game "please, with the good chair I currently have" only to return 30 min later to find I was still at the must move table and I was deleted from the list. I got added to the list (2nd up) after realizing the guy next to me was told to move and I was at this table longer then anyone else.

I don't mind this so much because it is a hassle for a floor person (only a floor person can do this not a brush) to count someones chips (and document) while they are away from the table then move them. I'd much rather see them spend the time and move the next available person on the list and when the absent person comes back they can be 1st up. It's quicker that way to keep the main game full.

Teddy

Last night there was a 75/150 HOSE game that got going, the limits only applied to the Stud and Stud8. Hold em and Omaha were played Pot limit with 10/25 blinds. 5 handed most of the night.

same game last night too but the upped the limit to 100/200 for the stud, omaha8 and stud hi/lo. I seen the mixed game sign and asked the floor what they were playing and he wasn't sure, he said it was 10/25, he forgot to mention the 100/200. I thought they had to have a placard on the table saying the limits and blinds but that wasn't there.

Anyway I really like the Isle but the brushes need to be trained better, they are the cause of majority of the problems. Last night I was on the 10/20 Omaha list, it was moving very slow, I was next up but a seat was open on the 4/8 game so I said I would play that till my seat opens. Well the brush takes my name from top of the 10/20 list and puts it to the bottom, so now I am 5th. I hear them call someone else for the 10/20 game so I go up to the brush to see what is going on, the guy is up there now and he tries to tell me that the others where in front of me, well I blew up on him and after the fact I knew it wasn't his fault but he was the one that was trying to tell me I was after the others, floor guy that seen me there waiting for over a hour and 15 minutes came over and made me next up, but the girls that you have there mean well but they are lost, games are double posted on the board, games are not on the board and tables are sitting with empty seats when there is a list with 6 or 7 names on it, the PLO the other night had 3 empty seats for a good 20 minutes with a list 4 long, I was the 4th that night and said something, it took another 5 minutes to call the seats.
If it is a software problem that should be fixed, training should be done. Other then this rant it is still by far the busiest room and has the biggest selection of games. I hope these are just growing pains, if they are still here in the season it will be a major mess.

If the brush I yelled at reads this I went to apologize last night when I was leaving but you just got off, I know it wasn't your fault it was one of the girls. Thank you to the floor guy for coming over and taking care of the problem.

The 1/2 game I played last night was the deepest I've played yet. 2 stacks ~700, 2 ~500 3 ~300 and the others ~200. Only saw 1 player rebuy for less than 200. Typical open was for 12-16 with 3 betting 35-60. Was a very juicy game but only managed to win $25 after 3 1/2 hrs. Can't retire just yet.

WOW! I'm shocked. Usually when I play 1/2 there it's raise to $6-$8 and everyone folds, last few sessions I had there it was a very tight game, of course you get an occasion spot where the entire world calls etc., but for the most part it has been raise/fold in my experiences.

I'm heading over to The Isle now to play the $150 bounty tourney, it's not a bad structure and is a 10K guarantee, helps get me out of the house to break up my daily online MTT grind.

I agree Gambit... not sure what's up with the brush situation, since prior to 7/1 they were pretty good...I've heard lots of complaints about the brush from others at the tables.... they hired lots of new people and some just aren't gonna make the cut. They need to get it together soon, before the season...

Mike Smith, please consider my earlier post about using the Poker Kiosk again since this may eliminate SOME problems....also would like to see you visit the floor a little more so you can see some of the issues first hand...

We are still considering the kiosks.

I agree we are a little challenged at the brush stand right now. We'll continue to train our team and I have confidence that they will be fine. Please have patience as we have gone from a poker room with 5 different games to a poker room with 12 different games at any given time with must move lists, and our team is learning as we go. I'm sure you'll see an improvement in the next couple weeks.

As always, I appreciate the input.

I will be there tonight for most of the evening and we'll see how it goes.

Thanks Mike, it was good to see you on the floor last night! Although I've not been in much the last several weeks, I must say the "must move" situation for Om8 was great last night! Brushes and floor were right on top of it when a seat opened and quickly at the "must move" table to move people to the 2 "main games". They also constanly kept checking with the "must move" players that the list on their clipboard was accurate!

You had 2 tables that were considered main games and 1 feeder "must move" game. May I suggest however, to have at least 2 "must move" game tables before adding a 2nd "main game" or always have only 1 "main game" and all the rest are "must move" (in order starting from newest "must move" to the 2nd "must move" & etc.) to the one main game. I know it's a lot of list keeping paperwork but it insures that the main game people who have been there the longest don't become short.

As you know Mike I discussed with you another situation last night about a player not wanting to post the 1/2 kill and leaving and my error in doing the same (probably out of spite) on the next hand. My next post below I'd like to bring up the situation again here as I left out some details in the situation.

In our Om8 1/2 kill game last night we had the following situations. What would you do if you were a floor person or what comment do you make as a player?

• after side pots, all in player (I'll call "Player A") wins main pot of $120+ (1/2 kill is a $40+ scoop pot)
• new dealer comes in and previous dealer says nothing to new dealer (although new dealer admittedly saw "Player A" scoop the $120+ main pot) about the next hand posting of the $6 half kill.
• Toward the end of the next hand, after another player at the table said "hey that last hand was a kill", another player (loud mouth table captain we''ll call "Teddy" ) agrees.
• "Player A" and the Dealer followed by other players at the table say and disagree, "it needs to be all scooped" then "well it's too late now..."
• Teddy: "please call over the floor dealer, because 'Player A' needs to post the next available hand.
• Floor person agrees that if the main pot was over $40 that the winner of the main pot should have posted the $6 half kill. After "Player A" again says repeatedly "I'm not posting..." and ""it's too late" the floor person however says something to the effect, "Teddy post the kill for this new hand you just won and I'll check with the 'floor mgr' if it's too late for 'Player A' to post the next available..."
• As the Floor person was walking away from the table he notices that "Player A" is leaving and says nothing. Does not try to even stop "Player A", explain the rules better or even get the $6 from her before she leaves.
• "Teddy" cries foul again (after floor person leaves the table) and now "Teddy" abruptly leaves the table with his chips w/o paying the half kill of $6
• Game looks like it's about to break as "Teddy" is racking up his chips several players start to leave the table also.

If I spent some more time thinking about these situations, I should not have done the same as "Player A' and refused to post as Mike indicated to me. But I was so outraged that the Floor person did not pursue "Player A' to explain her options or at least get $6 from her. After all, the $6 imho is NOT her money.

Comments or what would you do?

Teddy
PS - game did not break and after several minutes many new players were at the table.

Also, why would a Floor person need clarification from a "Floor Mgr" as to it being "too late" to post a kill after missing it?

Do they have a Om8 1/2 kill game at the Isles, or was it a Om8 4/8kill game? The player MUST post the kill ($6) on a scooped pot over $40 even if it's a all in split pot. You also must post the $6 kill before you leave. You can leave, but the $6 kill stays

they have Om8 4/8 half kill and also 10/20 half kill

I think the question here is whether you can force a player to post a "make-up kill" when you realize after the fact that the previous hand should have been a kill pot. I would say no, by that time, it's too late.