Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA)

08-10-2010 , 11:34 PM
has bbj reached $100K yet?
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-10-2010 , 11:51 PM
Annoying when the dealers yell "redbird"...almost as if they are trying to shame you into giving them 5 bucks. This is not about tipping, rather it is about the totally incompetent management of the poker room (not a dealer issue, rather it is a management issue).
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:03 AM
lot of people hating on the dealers on here. i agree that dealers should not say"thank u for your tips" at the end of their push, or "redbird", i think its very unprofessional. but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100, i think youre a cheap skate. if it wasnt for the dealer, u wouldnt have made any money, and if u dont like what the dealers are saying, so somewhere else, u gambling degenerate
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
Maybe the dealer was trying to send Player 2 a message, perhaps?
Its not the dealers job to "send a message" in fact it is the opposite, they are there to run the game according to house rules. Ive played in several states, countries and poker rooms ,a fold is a fold regardless of the dealers opinion or feelings. if a player voluntarily attempts to throw his cards into the muck the dealer should oblige.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer1977
lot of people hating on the dealers on here. i agree that dealers should not say"thank u for your tips" at the end of their push, or "redbird", i think its very unprofessional. but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100, i think youre a cheap skate. if it wasnt for the dealer, u wouldnt have made any money, and if u dont like what the dealers are saying, so somewhere else, u gambling degenerate
are you ****ing kidding me right now? the dealer has zero influence on how a hand is going to play out or what cards come out, infact the dealer is only doing the job that they are PAID to do and thats deal cards....How did they make me money? did they fund my bankroll ? NO! did they know I was going to turn a str8? NO! did they contribute to my pot at all?? answer is still no! You obviously have no idea what it takes to manage a real working bankroll that requires you to fight rake, tipping and bad beats along with several other factors.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer1977
lot of people hating on the dealers on here. i agree that dealers should not say"thank u for your tips" at the end of their push, or "redbird", i think its very unprofessional. but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100, i think youre a cheap skate. if it wasnt for the dealer, u wouldnt have made any money, and if u dont like what the dealers are saying, so somewhere else, u gambling degenerate
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how playing poker works in the long term. For people playing 40 or more hours a week this will destroy their hourly rate. It is not percentage based, standard tipping for every game played in that place and everywhere below nosebleeds is $1 and that is only when a flop is seen. Higher stakes do not equal higher tips, anywhere (outside of nosebleeds as mentioned). Take note of say $10/20 pretty much every pot will be over $100. At that game the expected win rate is only $20 an hour. Which is less than a fast dealer is making. So before you think that people playing with thousands of dollars are raking it in and rich, remember that they are winning less than you are making dealing the game.

Players are customers, dealers are employees.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer1977
lot of people hating on the dealers on here. i agree that dealers should not say"thank u for your tips" at the end of their push, or "redbird", i think its very unprofessional. but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100, i think youre a cheap skate. if it wasnt for the dealer, u wouldnt have made any money, and if u dont like what the dealers are saying, so somewhere else, u gambling degenerate
Wow! Why the hate? Personally, I think that when dealers say "Thank you for the tips" at the end of a push it is simple courtesy. After all, the tips aren't required. I appreciate the thank you.

As for tipping more than a $1 for a pot over $100 - who put the money into the pot? The players, right? So, if the pot is $150 - probably 2 people were in it after the flop, and they both contributed close to 1/2 of the money. A $70 or so profit for one, and an equal loss for the other. Not that much, really. I've started tipping a bit more on bigger pots, but wouldn't think that anyone is a cheapskate for only tipping a $1. Heck, when a session is going bad - the money really starts to sting.

Who tips the players when we're losing $100's? Or a thousand or more?? The dealer doesn't make or lose us money. We do that ourselves. What a good dealer does do is make the game run smoothly. That's what I tip for. Not the pot.

Lee
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:40 AM
Exactly Lee, it's not like when the same dealer hits you with a vicious beat he gives you some of your tip back
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 12:41 AM
Quote:
but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100
I tip if the dealer is doing his job.

ie. Getting a good amt. of hands per hour
keeping the game moving
keeping the game under control

I'm sure there are many more things peeps can add here. I tip where it is deserved.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 02:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BNelley24
Where is that pretty red head that played there on Sunday @ my table, she told me she was a 2+2er and she was a real good player.
Hi, you might be talking about me and thanks for the compliment. I just read here, never post. Just got back from playing at Chester again and you wouldn't think I was a good player if you saw my game tonight.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 04:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer1977
lot of people hating on the dealers on here. i agree that dealers should not say"thank u for your tips" at the end of their push, or "redbird", i think its very unprofessional. but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100, i think youre a cheap skate. if it wasnt for the dealer, u wouldnt have made any money, and if u dont like what the dealers are saying, so somewhere else, u gambling degenerate
If it wasn't for the dealer I wouldn't have made money? How about when I stick 500 in the middle with air and get you to fold KK on a j high board? Is that the dealers work? How about when I lose should the dealer kick me something? How about the dealers don't shuffle . I guess I'll start tipping the machine for now since that how I have one losing session since the Chester Fish Tank opened.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 06:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oneil1979
are you ****ing kidding me right now? the dealer has zero influence on how a hand is going to play out or what cards come out, infact the dealer is only doing the job that they are PAID to do and thats deal cards....How did they make me money? did they fund my bankroll ? NO! did they know I was going to turn a str8? NO! did they contribute to my pot at all?? answer is still no! You obviously have no idea what it takes to manage a real working bankroll that requires you to fight rake, tipping and bad beats along with several other factors.
Most good rooms do not allow dealers to make any comment when they've been stiffed. I never stiff the dealer, but I don't like the idea that a dealer can/will make ANY kind of comment after that kind of thing happens. These guys support family's and make their living off tips. But, A buck a hand, if the dealer is any good will average out to 24.00 bucks an hour in a busy room. This income, plus their min wage makles for decent living. I'm taking into account breaks. It's not the dealers, but the management that has a repsonsibility to make sure the dealers ARE NOT allowed to talk tips in the box and a lack of policy contributes to that type of behavior. "Thank you" at each buck or tip is all they should ever do. I've never heard of a dealer saying "redbird" when they are lucky enough to get a red chip.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 07:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGuyV
Somehow I find it unlikely that you're A) an easy going guy and B) less likely to "call them out" when drunk at 4am.

A service worker asking if I want change for something that cost $15 when I give them $20 means "I'm a needy donk - please give me a huge tip I may not deserve". But "thanks for tips" means..."thanks for tips" I always thought - maybe that's naive.
1) you having an opinion of my temperment from the information I provided in my post is laughable.

2) it was 4am, I was tired and mostly drunk and I wasn't in the mood to get into an argument while playing cards, this isn't exactly a situation which is inconceivable, is it?

Obviously you know nothing about professionalism in the service industry. I'm not sure of your previous work history, but I've actually worked in the service industry and at a pretty high level it.

Let me explain it clearly, not to berate you, but so you can be aware of the differences between doing something just to make a tip, or to do your job at the very best level you can and letting the tips take care of themselves. A good example would be going to a resturaunt and asking a server what he or she "recommends", in this example, in a bottle of wine. Obviously, at most places with subpar service you will get a server who recommends the most expensive bottle on the list. When you find a server who actually recommends something that fits your needs more than just pad the bill, you realize you have a person who is a true professional - someone who does their job to the best of their ability rather than in their own self interest.

It's painfully obvious at least half of the dealers in that room have never even touched a deck of cards before they were hired. For most of them to not even know the rules yet try to juice patrons for tips is almost comical. I usually don't get annoyed at things like this, but when I'm telling the dealers what the rules ARE and then I hear "Is that the going rate for aces?" it annoys me. Hope that's ok with you, and if it's not, that's ok too.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notwendy
Hi, you might be talking about me and thanks for the compliment. I just read here, never post. Just got back from playing at Chester again and you wouldn't think I was a good player if you saw my game tonight.
You play NL again or stud? I'm looking to head down Friday and Sunday.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 07:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealer1977
lot of people hating on the dealers on here. i agree that dealers should not say"thank u for your tips" at the end of their push, or "redbird", i think its very unprofessional. but for those of u who tip $1 after being pushed a pot over $100, i think youre a cheap skate. if it wasnt for the dealer, u wouldnt have made any money, and if u dont like what the dealers are saying, so somewhere else, u gambling degenerate
So, say you're stuck two thousand dollars in a bad night of playing 5/10 and 2/5. It does happen. You win a 120 dollar pot, now you're only stuck 1,880 dollars. How much do you think is a good tip? 4 bucks?

Sorry, but I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about in terms of people who play a LOT of poker. What you are suggesting is actually quite a large sum of money in the course of 70 hours a week playing cards. I guess you just dont' realize it. Do the math, it's surprising.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 07:30 AM
What kind of wait list for 1-2NL would we be looking at around 7pm 2nite.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 09:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wil318466
1) you having an opinion of my temperment from the information I provided in my post is laughable.

2) it was 4am, I was tired and mostly drunk and I wasn't in the mood to get into an argument while playing cards, this isn't exactly a situation which is inconceivable, is it?

Obviously you know nothing about professionalism in the service industry. I'm not sure of your previous work history, but I've actually worked in the service industry and at a pretty high level it.

Let me explain it clearly, not to berate you, but so you can be aware of the differences between doing something just to make a tip, or to do your job at the very best level you can and letting the tips take care of themselves. A good example would be going to a resturaunt and asking a server what he or she "recommends", in this example, in a bottle of wine. Obviously, at most places with subpar service you will get a server who recommends the most expensive bottle on the list. When you find a server who actually recommends something that fits your needs more than just pad the bill, you realize you have a person who is a true professional - someone who does their job to the best of their ability rather than in their own self interest.

It's painfully obvious at least half of the dealers in that room have never even touched a deck of cards before they were hired. For most of them to not even know the rules yet try to juice patrons for tips is almost comical. I usually don't get annoyed at things like this, but when I'm telling the dealers what the rules ARE and then I hear "Is that the going rate for aces?" it annoys me. Hope that's ok with you, and if it's not, that's ok too.
Hey man, I'm not an apologist for dealers or anything. Yes the dealers are inexperienced. And I agree with most everyone berating "dealer" itt. I will agree that the "going rate for Aces" comment was out of line. I think you're making way too much out of "thank you for the tips".
As for forming an opinion on your temperment, I know I'm an easy going guy and less (not more) likely to be confrontational when sober. Maybe that's just me though. If I'm wrong then good; there are enough D'bags at the poker table already.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wil318466
It's painfully obvious at least half of the dealers in that room have never even touched a deck of cards before they were hired. For most of them to not even know the rules yet try to juice patrons for tips is almost comical.
I agree that the "going rate for aces" and "nice pot" comments are out of line, as has pretty much every other poster here.

However, "thanks for your tips" is something I hear everywhere I play, and not just from new dealers. More often than not, it sounds genuine, and when it isn't it's because it's just rote habit for them after years of saying it. I'd say it has less to do with the fact that they just pushed a pot, and more to do with being a common pleasantry for dealers who work in a tip business.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 09:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notwendy
Hi, you might be talking about me and thanks for the compliment. I just read here, never post. Just got back from playing at Chester again and you wouldn't think I was a good player if you saw my game tonight.
I am a balding man who likes clever tshirts, short walks on the beach, and reality TV. If anyone is interested in getting in on this action, meet me at table 15 under the romantic overhead lighting.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by layemdown
I've never heard of a dealer saying "redbird" when they are lucky enough to get a red chip.
Really? How much have you played in Atlantic City?
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 10:05 AM
any1 intested in some $1/2 plo tonight? around 9ish tonight?
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BNelley24
You play NL again or stud? I'm looking to head down Friday and Sunday.
NL had open seating and stud had a waiting list, so just NL yesterday. I'd like to play 5/10 stud so I'm playing Chester again probably Thurs. or Fri. and I think playing at Turning Stone on Sunday.
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 02:12 PM
Thinking of making a run tomorrow night (Thurs). It'll be my first departure from the Borgata, other than trips to LV & FW. I have *zero* interest in NL, what limit games can I expect to be spread on a Thursday night and what are the waits like?

If that PLO game is a go... I'll be up for that, however

Is there a "get here by this time" or wait forever for a seat? I don't expect that I can arrive prior to 6PM.

Hope to see some 2p2's there.. maybe even the cute redhead!
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IFSATG
Thinking of making a run tomorrow night (Thurs). It'll be my first departure from the Borgata, other than trips to LV & FW. I have *zero* interest in NL, what limit games can I expect to be spread on a Thursday night and what are the waits like?

If that PLO game is a go... I'll be up for that, however

Is there a "get here by this time" or wait forever for a seat? I don't expect that I can arrive prior to 6PM.

Hope to see some 2p2's there.. maybe even the cute redhead!
2/4, 3/6, 10/20 are always going by night. Wait shouldn't be brutal, but could be 45 min or so at 6ish (but as always who knows for sure).

Creepy degen stalker guys ITT
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote
08-11-2010 , 02:30 PM
LOL - yea that's me CDSG

Nothing higher than 10/20?

Do they spread mixed games and/or O8?
Harrah's Philadelphia (Chester, PA) Quote

      
m