Just soes you understand, adding a $1 jackpot drop increases the drop by a huge factor. On max drop, the increase is 20%, but think of all those small $18-$39 pots where they drop the 10%, but then drop an additional dollar + they round up. It will get worse with live dealers where most feel obligated to toke. Then you'll get players who win $150 pots and tip the dealer for $2 bucks without thinking they really only took down $80-$95 strange. That's money leaving the game.

I can beat the 10% max $5 at cherokee, but it's iffy when you start adding trip expense. Add the $1 jackpot and $1 dealer toke, and I'm not going to feel like driving 180 miles per session as I know can't beat that.

Be better to drop the jackpot drop on pots $50 or more but it's still a big vig and granted it's supposed to be neutral EV +additional traffic, the additional traffic only keeps the games going longer.

Great for the casino, okay for locals, sucks for us weekend warriors.

Usually packed. They're breaking in dealers so you have to watch your payouts and bets. Best to keep the payouts in increments of quarters and nickles because they just fumble the whites too often.

Also, there are some experienced dealers from other Harrah's properties, like AC, Vegas teaching the trainee's bad habits such as dunning players for action.

The pit and the box are great as you'll find almost everywhere.

U do know that live dealers are going to be for 2/5 NL and up? Unless u are playing high stakes then it will not apply to u.

There is mucho truth here, especially with gas at $4-plus per gallon.

A 180-mile round trip costs about $30 (minimum), and that already puts a big hurt on the ev of Cherokee's many regular customers from metro Atlanta, S. Carolina, Charlotte and Tennessee.

Yea for a 6BB per hour player it's only about an $8 reduction in wages. That's just the toke. I'm assuming there is no JP for the 2/5 'high stakes' game.

Just to be clear there is not a current BBJ or proposed BBJ in the works at this time. I would love to see such a promotion take place.

BBJ = lottery. You get a much bigger bang when you hit (lol) the lottery. Please don't force all players to participate in BBJ folly.

I went for my first time Friday-Sunday morning this weekend. Got a room free for just long enough to take a nap. Checked rooms online once I got home for a few weeks out and they're comping it. Try to order a room online ahead of time while logged into your TotalRewards account and maybe you'll have something.

Been up to Cherokee a 10 times or so. I live in South Carolina so the distance has really limited my capability of coming up more. Just realizing there is a wsop circuit event that will be played here and cannot wait for the main event!

So did they get Sunday ticket or some other NFL package for the room? Or just basic cbs and fox broadcasts?

Has anybody been in the new Diamond Lounge? Has the food selection improved?

I don't know what package they have, but they did show the ATL-KC game in the poker room on Sunday. But that may have been because they can get local station in ATL, not sure.

I know that Sunday Ticket is being thoroughly investigated, but as of this moment, it hasn't yet been installed. Cherokee is a Panthers market, so those will certainly be the easiest games to find. Atlanta fans will sometimes be left out because the games are often concurrent with Panthers games.

I know this is a bad spot for this but how close is deals gap I want to go there badly

About 50 miles--easy drive.

There is a scheduled PokerPro outage for Tuesday, September 18th, between the hours of 6am and 10am. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Anthony splained to me today that the expense of adding the Sunday Ticket/Red Zone package to the poker room would prob be prohibitive for Harrahs.

That means no Cherokee poker for me for the next 15 Sundays so I can watch ST/RZ at home; for me, it's the most compelling programming on TV -- 6 straight hours of commercial-free, non-stop, live NFL action; it's well worth the extra $$ on my monthly DirecTV bill.

2 other quick items:

There was another mini-meltdown in Cherokee's Poker Tek operation Thursday night. The start of the $50-$10 NLHE tournament was delayed for nearly two hours by a malfunction on one of the tables. That makes two significant shutdowns/customer inconveniences in the last two weeks.

(It was a lesser hassle that the poker room's casino-wide intercom system and pager service also were not functioning.)

On a more positive note, a flyer was posted in the PR that live dealer games will be coming within the next year. That's about all that was stated.

In response to an earlier question, the spiffy new Diamond Lounge offers the same server-delivered menu and food choices as the old lounge. Desert options are also available (I'm not sure if that's something new or not).

They spend money building a new Diamond Lounge but the NFL Sunday Ticket is cost prohibitive. Really?

That's not too positive. They might as well post Live Dealers will be in the poker room by April 2013.

Harrah's Cherokee dont bend over backwards for your players. Pretty pathetic! The outages are getting more frequent with tables. Amazing how poor the customer service is at Cherokee.

What does the outages have to do with customer service? They should comp for an outage if u are playing. The casino is not making money during an outage.

Have you tried the delivery of free food from Brio's? They send you $20 coupons through the mail. If you pick it up, you don't even have to tip, but you'd have to walk about...20 yards.

This is probably the most +EV poker room I've ever been in - not the biggest, not the plushest, not the highrollingest.

I probaby shouldn't post this, but claims of "how poor the customer service is" are pretty unfounded and unfair to employees like Anthony and many others. You can't walk through the place without employees saying "hello" and wishing you good luck.

Guys... issues over the last 3-4 weeks are squarely on PokerTek. We are truly sorry for the recent service disruptions. Any disruption is unacceptable. Please know that we are on it, know the root cause and are in process of resolving.

Root cause is the massive volume of hands being dealt up there, and wrong sizing estimates for some our the databases. Prior to our opening of 17table room in Cleveland last week, Cherokee was worlds largest elec poker room.

Rest assured that barring physical disaster the redundant fail over servers cannot lose the state any bet, chip stack, cards dealt, flop, or hand in action for cash game our tourny.

As to the room staff.. I have been involved in the Poker business all over the world and met lots of folks. Anthony is top notch poker room guy who cares more than you know about the poker players. Keep in mind that with room move and introducing of live dealers in the pit, his casino general mgmt have had their hands full of late.

Fact is that the gaming industry has always struggled with how to quantify the benefits of their poker busines vis-a-vis other games on the floor. Thats true in Vegas, AC, Tunica, Macau and everywhere in between. Things are changing for the better in the industry. Increases in WSOP 2012, pending poker boom in Asia and return of online poker in US is all going to help quite a bit. but I digress...

Anyway thanks for all the support up there, PokerTek cares, apologizes for recent issues and please know we working hard to address.

Lou

PS GO PANTHERS.. PokerTek is based in Charlotte.

+1 I agree 100%. I wish Anthony could be in the poker room full-time.

U have electronic tables in Cleveland? What casino is this?

Lou, thanks for responding in a timely manner. Howevahh, the first paragraph was all that was needed. The rest was pr and spin. And as far as Anthony is concerned, the regs in Cherokee don't need Charlotte to tell us what a gem/mensch he is. For my money, he is the best manager in the whole casino.