Is Cherokee planning on phasing out the PokerPro tables as time goes on?

So how do you think the crowd will be for the weekend after the 4th?

I would assume holiday traffic should bring in the crowd. i guess it would be a good time to come up and play some poker huh?

Is there normally a 2/5 game taking place on the weekends?

Turns out? How else do you expect to play without requiring money put on your account before playing a digital table exactly?

I sympathize with your gripe, the cashier actually closes at 3am which imo should be extended to 5am. It is kind of a waste of resources to have a 24/7 cashier, esp on weeknights (maybe they can change it to 5am on weeknights and 24/7 on Fri and Sat nights?).

The long walk you are making will soon be cut to a much shorter distance once the construction is done. However, I think having someone who just went busto leave the poker room onto another floor is bad since he may just decide to go home.

Finally, they are earning less than you think? $600/hr for 2-3 tables? It's more like $300-$400 tops. I do agree that the big bosses making the casino operational decisions have a very poor understanding of poker room 101.

The avg pot will pretty much always be > $50 but the median pot is not, thus max rake $5 isn't going at a rate of 45h/hr. You need to factor the pots that don't see a flop or only reach $20-30. In reality it comes closer to $140/hr per ten handed table. The max rake is reduced to $3 at a table 5 handed or less.

I agree that since the hourly wage of a cashier is likely $10/hr, it wouldn't be eating much to just keep it open. I don't think the decision makers are capable of thinking like that however.

So, did you get felted, or was there a fish just giving money away, and people were pissed he had to leave and walk a mile to reload before he could keep giving away his money$?

Personally, If its past 2 or 3 am, and I go bust, the last thing I should be doing is reloading, but I hear what you're saying.

I haven't seen the new room, but is it possible they could have one of those automated machines put in to load your account for when the cage is closed?

What is the current formula used to calculate tier credits and reward credits? Is it still every 40 hands or has it switched to every hour?

I thought the brush could cut you a player's card right there on the spot?

I think that's only if you already have a TR account set up

Rake is 10% to $5 to play on a machine? And they don't even lower it 6 handed? Wow!!

No tips. Nobody acting out of turn. Nobody hollywooding for 15 minutes. 45 hand per hour instead of 25.

I am going to guess Cherokee is going to stick with the Pokerpro machines. I doubt they are adding this many tables just to pull them out in a few weeks.

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte...html?ana=yfcpc

Have they changed the alcohol rules yet in the casino? Free alcohol at the poker tables would be awesome for obvious reasons.

Sounds like online poker which is typically 5% to $3 before rakebacks. Although admittedly your balance on your Harrah's card is likely more likely to be paid in full than your balance on Absolute Poker or Full Tilt.

Based on article in OP, my thoughts are right on that Cherokee is married to the e-tables and has no sense of what their room could be with live tables for cash games and well ran tournaments and tournament series. 15-20 live tables and 5 e-tables for continuous running sit n gos which they rake the heck out of would be ideal IMO. Even allow 1-2 on a couple of e-tables so players would have option of live or electronic play. To do all tournaments and 1-2 on electronic is asinine.

I assume the WSOP tourneys mentioned in article is the WSOP satellites like they ran last year which had poor turnout because the buyins were too high.

The plan for the casino?

"A full blown casino,which will have blackjack,roulette and baccarat - you know,those games that you would typically find in Vegas or Atlantic City," Hicks said.

No mention of poker?

Poker is not a game that brings in a lot of money for the casino. It is last on their list of games to change.

And not to really go into the e-table discussion, but there's a good chance that they believe that they make more profit from e-tables than they would from live tables.

i've seen a few requests for a limit O8 game itt and i'm pretty sure that it would run a lot more than the 3-6 limit game. every time i'm playing i hear the old timers wanting to play it too. if you have the license for it, why not just try adding it to the game list for a few weeks, 4-8 with half kill or something? i know the hourly rake may be lower than nlh but why not try it? basically i want to play some limit o8.
Frenchy

I second this. I will try to start a list next time i am there on a weekend.

Omaha tourney could not get more than 10 players yesterday so it was canceled. There is only interest on Omaha on Saturdays.

BTW if 20/40 Limit can run on weekends in a Tunica cornfield then surely it can run in the Cherokee mountains.

+1 I'm in! I think a 4-8 O8 game would be a great addition to the mix. With 15 tables, why not?

Over 90% of casinos in US have live poker tables including the other Casears properties. Bottom line Cherokee doesn't are about poker players like other casinos.

As I said previously, I'd always be up for this if it runs. And if the rake structure is the same (10%, $5 cap) I'd imagine they'd rake very nearly $5/hand, although the hands/hr might be a little lower.

I won't make it up this weekend, but any chance this could be on the list by next weekend? Half-kill, no kill, whatever, it seems clear there's enough interest ITT to sustain a weekend game; with even a few people who aren't on 2+2 seems like it could run pretty regularly

Really frustrated with the new room. Although the rotunda opens at 10 am this morning so I anticipate a few perks from that from a smokers pov. atm however i think the real problem we have is the beverage situation and the fact that a fish has to walk a really long ways to hit an atm. The hours that the cashier isnt operating inside the poker room hurts too. Those are some of the most proffitable times in poker rooms, the late night short handed or full ring games.

The fish that has to walk all that ways is being awarded a cool down walk downstairs and back before they make another decision for stacks. Its a built in tilt control excercise from what ive seen.

Every weekend, or for that matter, nearly everyday Ive grown familiar with someone being drunk and spewing money around the poker room. But now they cant get drunk if they wanted to. The beverage servers cant get the drinks to the pkr room quick enough for it. I tried last night to get a beer for an hour. No sign of server.

I have not seen a growth in bodies in the room. Tourneys or cash game. No one is randomly walking by and wanting to give poker a try. Just as our worst fears led us to believe may end up happening.

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I am aware that the floor guy doesnt wanna start a game in the afternoons when there is only like 6 people on list. However there was a situation today that occurred that we all wanted to play and start shorthanded. Whether the game filled or not was irrelivant to us. Traffic was slow, and other two games were filled with people that were not leaving anytime soon. One lady wanted to just leave cause she had been on list for an hour. And she drove from atl. What is wrong with starting that game? I know you werent there just wondering if there is some compromise that can be made, and if so is there a way that all the floor persons can be on the same page in this situation. It is a long miserable wait in that poker room that is seperated from the casino floor.

I have seen a couple people and heard of even more that are walking in and expecting live cards and snap leaving when they see the poker pro tables. And thats whatever. They could have called ahead of time to figure that spot out. I love the tables obv, but I am super pumped about possibly one day having a bigger game dealt live. Simply because its the most unlogical reason to not play at cherokee because people think its rigged. That just tells me the people that are waiting out for the live cards for the most part arent logical people. I wanna play for higher limits against people that are stubborn and dont use logic. I do however understand that a recreational fish would just rather have cards and chips. For them it would be like if two buddies made a friendly $100 bet at golf, but just to give themselves a reason to play golf cause its fun. Except they wouldnt make the bet if they were gonna have to play the round of golf on xbox twoods.