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02-29-2012 , 11:43 PM
I doubt anything over 3/6 limit will be spread. 3/6 is hit or miss during the week. It's only guaranteed to run Fri and Sat.
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03-01-2012 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash Dancers
Any update on a more accurate estimate of when the poker room moves upstairs? Still May-June-ish?
Most likely early June.
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03-04-2012 , 12:11 AM
possibly the worst players i think ever i played with today...

playing sng.... i made a guy check the stone cold nuts today (he was last to act) "i thought you were going to bet so i checked"
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03-04-2012 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyshap
possibly the worst players i think ever i played with today...

playing sng.... i made a guy check the stone cold nuts today (he was last to act) "i thought you were going to bet so i checked"
the sng usually have just as bad of players as the 3/6 game. not a lot of regs are going to play against each other with 20% juice
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03-04-2012 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jediburke
the sng usually have just as bad of players as the 3/6 game. not a lot of regs are going to play against each other with 20% juice
yea i just played the first one i got there, i cashed. but the guy who sold his action for 50% for $20.... lol he had like 8k chips when he sold it lol
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03-04-2012 , 11:23 PM
Weekend action report:

1. No babes
2. Friday was slow due to all the inclement weather
3. Saturday was nice, PLO ran all day and night

They really need to finish up with the new poker room and get more tables. The wait list was ridic...
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03-07-2012 , 04:33 PM
I played there for the second time I ever have this past weekend.

Played 1/2 both Friday and Saturday nights, pretty much 10-12 hour sessions both nights. Surprising how many regs there are, like every table seemed to have 5-6 people who all knew each other. I even recognized some people from my prior trip (about a year ago exactly). I guess that's the product of having such a small room. Most of the regs seemed to play very predictably and were easy to avoid losing anything to. The fish were of course ridiculously fishy and so the quality of the games was still great, despite there being several really tight players at the table usually.

I ran insanely good, finished up a little over $1400 for the 2 nights (last time I was there I also booked a $1000+ win over a weekend).
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03-09-2012 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
Surprising how many regs there are, like every table seemed to have 5-6 people who all knew each other...
I love the regs though, you can really push them off hands and just play a bit more LAG and really play low risk winning poker against them. The majority of them are weak-tight from what I've seen, with a few exceptions.

I'm going this weekend, can't wait.
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03-09-2012 , 01:16 PM
Gonna be there today and tomorrow all day trying to start up a 2/5 game. Please come if you're interested!
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03-09-2012 , 03:24 PM
2/5 gets a lot of short stackers nitting it up. the game is really only good if you can get it going for at least 12hrs to get some stacks on the table. if your looking for action, sign up for plo, games have been good these last several weeks. we had 10k on the table in a 1/2 game last weekend, that's not uncommon.
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03-09-2012 , 05:23 PM
I don't mind playing with bad shortstackers. The PLO game is great no doubt but I don't have as much experience in the game. If anyone wants to help start a game up, it's always great if it runs for a while.
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03-09-2012 , 07:23 PM
Cherokee regs are turrible as sir charles would say....
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03-11-2012 , 07:37 PM
My buddy and I rolled into Cherokee this weekend. Living near Charlotte reduces our legal poker options when looking for a location within driving distance.

We hit the Poker Tek tables Friday evening around 4:00. 1/2 was the game of choice and since my last visit they have allowed a 100-500 buyin, up from 300. That led to somewhat larger stack sizes imo but I couldnt be sure as I dont keep stats on such things.

Play was typical weak tight to donkish. Not many aggressive players at my table.

After an hour, I realized my extremely tight table would be unlikely to lead to much profit so I asked for a table change. The poker room staff at Cherokee has always been pretty professional in my experience and I got my table change promptly.

My new table was a bit fishier although three regs made it a bit daunting. My first hand I picked up AK UTG. I raise to $7 and get called from only the SB (a reg). A flop of A-7-3 saw a check and my bet of 13. SB calls. The turn is another A. He checks and I bet 25 .He check raises for $75 which would leave me with $25. I shove all in which he snap calls with 77 for a boat. Case A on the river. Quads. Easy game

I played another hand with JJ which led to quads after my villain turned broadway against my set.

two hands. Two sets of quads. Both times for stacks. The night was off to a good start.

Anyway ended up about $280 after 7 hours. Action was pretty good but there seemed to be more regs than usual.

Saturday was more of the same. Sat down around 11:30 as the morning tournament was down to three tables. Played till about 8:45 and ran up another $220

The trip was up $502 with 14.5 hours of play. Not bad but Im a nit. I won 80% of my hands that went to showdown...clearly sustainable lol

Funny story. Leif Force sat next to me for a bit Friday night. He bought in short for $100 and proceeded to tell us about the evils of roulette which took $200k from his bankroll. Anyway he gets in a pot with one of the donks at the table. Bet, bet, check , check whatever. The pot has about $70 in it when the river comes out. The donk checks, pushes away from the table and folds his arms clearly disgusted. Leif has only about $50 left and says to the donk "Would you fold for $4?" The donk thinks a second and says "yeah Id fold for $4." Leif hits the $1 on his screen 3 times. The donk folds and the whole table laughs. Good times. Leif is fun to have at the table. He proceeded to prop bet a guy on a coin flip for $100 (I flipped the coin and got blamed for a bad flip by the loser. Then he propped with the same guy on a red or black flop. Result? A split.

Anyway Cherokee is ok. The PokerTek tables are pretty slick. We averaged 45 hands per hour and the rake is $5. No tips so your earn rate should go up. I actually prefer them to live play but they arent in many casinos.

The casino is really smoky and the average age is about 60 including many of the wait staff!! Still its a nice diversion but from what I hear everyone gets destroyed on the table games so beware
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03-12-2012 , 03:08 AM
I went up Saturday, and played 1/2nl.. was defiantly the least crowded I've seen. Alot off ppl there knew eachother, but as usual the regs were beatable. The 1/2 PLO was crazy. Didn't play but when I left at 5am there was about 8 or 9k on table. Also sat wit MoneyMaker's brother, and j believe Leif Force also. All in all it's still Cherokee... Beatable regs and same faces
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03-13-2012 , 06:54 PM
Weekend news:

Diamond players continue to be hammered. Peanuts (trail mix) discontinued for Diamond card holders. Skittles continue to be served for desert in the Diamond lounge. Diamond lounge no longer open 7 days a week. This may be old news.

A lot of hold-'em this weekend as Friday night and Saturday were jammed. The lunatics escaped from the asylum and a PLO game broke out Saturday. Proving that sharks are fish too, a hold-'em maniac, a staunch, aggressive hombre who will remain un-named, lost his arse--around $4500 is the figure i heard mentioned--in the PLO game. Last word was that he was still walking around in the poker room in an alcoholic daze. Vodka and cranberry anyone?

There were also some non-reg drunks that dropped a bundle over the week-end, betting on air and donating. We are much obliged. Come see us any time; you hear?

No matter what those guys say, the regs are tough at Harrah's Cherokee Smoky Mountain Casino. It is difficult to win money at a table full of regulars. Some are entertaining, some are stinky, reeking of BO and halitosis, some are drunkards, some are not too good, but they play a limping brand of almost quality poker and you have to guard your stack at all times. All in, anyone?

Word is that the state legislature will meet in May and possibly decide when or if table games will begin in the secluded Soco valley. So now you know as much as anyone else. Not much talk about it at all on this visit.

Spring has come to Bee Hive: the pear trees are in full bloom, daffodils are bursts of yellow, and the blue birds are doing what the birds and the bees do. The pasture is lushly verdant, the maple trees are budded out and the sow has piglets. The Equinox is only a week off.

best,

red
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03-13-2012 , 08:06 PM
PLO is easy, just keep clicking the bet pot button.
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03-13-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PolProf
My buddy and I rolled into Cherokee this weekend. Living near Charlotte reduces our legal poker options when looking for a location within driving distance.

We hit the Poker Tek tables Friday evening around 4:00. 1/2 was the game of choice and since my last visit they have allowed a 100-500 buyin, up from 300. That led to somewhat larger stack sizes imo but I couldnt be sure as I dont keep stats on such things.

Play was typical weak tight to donkish. Not many aggressive players at my table.

After an hour, I realized my extremely tight table would be unlikely to lead to much profit so I asked for a table change. The poker room staff at Cherokee has always been pretty professional in my experience and I got my table change promptly.

My new table was a bit fishier although three regs made it a bit daunting. My first hand I picked up AK UTG. I raise to $7 and get called from only the SB (a reg). A flop of A-7-3 saw a check and my bet of 13. SB calls. The turn is another A. He checks and I bet 25 .He check raises for $75 which would leave me with $25. I shove all in which he snap calls with 77 for a boat. Case A on the river. Quads. Easy game

I played another hand with JJ which led to quads after my villain turned broadway against my set.

two hands. Two sets of quads. Both times for stacks. The night was off to a good start.

Anyway ended up about $280 after 7 hours. Action was pretty good but there seemed to be more regs than usual.

Saturday was more of the same. Sat down around 11:30 as the morning tournament was down to three tables. Played till about 8:45 and ran up another $220

The trip was up $502 with 14.5 hours of play. Not bad but Im a nit. I won 80% of my hands that went to showdown...clearly sustainable lol

Funny story. Leif Force sat next to me for a bit Friday night. He bought in short for $100 and proceeded to tell us about the evils of roulette which took $200k from his bankroll. Anyway he gets in a pot with one of the donks at the table. Bet, bet, check , check whatever. The pot has about $70 in it when the river comes out. The donk checks, pushes away from the table and folds his arms clearly disgusted. Leif has only about $50 left and says to the donk "Would you fold for $4?" The donk thinks a second and says "yeah Id fold for $4." Leif hits the $1 on his screen 3 times. The donk folds and the whole table laughs. Good times. Leif is fun to have at the table. He proceeded to prop bet a guy on a coin flip for $100 (I flipped the coin and got blamed for a bad flip by the loser. Then he propped with the same guy on a red or black flop. Result? A split.

Anyway Cherokee is ok. The PokerTek tables are pretty slick. We averaged 45 hands per hour and the rake is $5. No tips so your earn rate should go up. I actually prefer them to live play but they arent in many casinos.

The casino is really smoky and the average age is about 60 including many of the wait staff!! Still its a nice diversion but from what I hear everyone gets destroyed on the table games so beware

How in gods name do you cooler someone twice with quads and only end up 280 smh.

In regards to ak hand, open bigger pre (obviously debatable, personal preference of mine though which I can get into if you realllllly wanna discuss the merits of bigger raises OOP with big hands). Check back turn keeps your range wider and will allow you to get more value on river (villain will bluff his air and check call river MUCH wider than if you barrel turn).

3B Shoving turn is quite literally the worst possible line to take as you almost never get called by worse

only 1 ace left in the deck so (no reads given so no idea how light villain will call EP opens from an unknown player)
-4 combos aq/4combos aj and then 2 combos ak plus maybeeeee 2 combos a10 (10 combos you have beat + 2 you chop with)
vs
-6 combos 77 6 combos 33 3 combos a3 and 3 combos a7 (18 combos you are in pretttttty terrible shape against).

You are going stack any worse ace if you flat turn anyways on river (assuming eff stacks are prob less than 200 on this hand because if they are like 300-400$ your play is even worse on turn).

annnnnnd im done (sorry I needed a break from learning shell scripting and felt like talking poker D.

Ducksauce out.

Last edited by DuckSauce; 03-13-2012 at 08:38 PM.
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03-13-2012 , 09:27 PM
Do you local regs just take advantage of the weekday free rooms and stay in the creek tower every week?

Red, from the source himself I heard it was just -$3k.

Saw a hot babe the other night, unfortunately it was obvious she was a working girl. Even worse for her, didn't seem to be any customers.
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03-14-2012 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash Dancers
Saw a hot babe the other night, it was obvious she was a working girl. Luck for me, didn't seem to be any customers.
FYP
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03-14-2012 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by partyof5insc
Cherokee regs are turrible as sir charles would say....
Yes, some of the regs are "turrible"...others, not so much. It all depends on whether they are weak-tight, weak-aggressive, or play a pretty solid game - which I have seen all of the above.

I play pretty regularly on the weekends in the 1/2NL game, and have witnessed both good and bad play from some regs.

Perfect example on Sat night: 1 reg vs. an unknown. Reg has JJ in SB, Unknown in BB checks A7o in a limped pot (I folded my trash on the button)

Flop comes J77. SB checks his J's full, BB bets 3/4 pot, SB raises 3x. While BB goes into the tank, SB tells him outright "you need quad 77's to win" - BB folds, both show. Horrible move by the reg...he could have certainly stacked the BB who I think would have a hard time folding his trip 7's.

Yes, there are a lot of regs playing, but if you are observant, you can weed out the solid players from the nits and donks and play accordingly.
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03-15-2012 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash Dancers
Do you local regs just take advantage of the weekday free rooms and stay in the creek tower every week? I like to stay in the free rooms, but not every week. Lowers the nut. Just makes sense.

Red, from the source himself I heard it was just -$3k. That may be. I don't play Omaha, and I'm not sure the guy that told me the story was there.

Saw a hot babe the other night, unfortunately it was obvious she was a working girl. Even worse for her, didn't seem to be any customers.

I've heard that there were some B-girls about. I have not seen one. Hard to think about a casino without hoors. While I have not recognized a sloot for what she is, I have had some strange things happen while at the Russian River bar. Crazy place.
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03-15-2012 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tennesseered
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Rushing River Bar. Can't imagine a successful Russian theme in an Indian mountain casino in NC.

I find it fascinating that Harrah's is so dead during the week that they are willing to give free rooms for just poker play. When you do the math, they make on average of just under $15 per player per hour in rake. A player playing 10hrs/day generates $150 in gross revenue. I guess this is acceptable for a comped Creek room.

Can't wait till I'm Seven Star to get free Lay's chips.
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03-15-2012 , 06:48 PM
They just send them out to anyone with an account afaik.
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03-15-2012 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash Dancers
Rushing River Bar. Can't imagine a successful Russian theme in an Indian mountain casino in NC.
The Russian River is in the wine country in California. Beautiful place. I heard Rushing River pronounced, in the Cherokee Smoky Mountain Casino, as Rushin' River. It was in the vernacular of western North Carolina or east Tennessee. I thought that it fit, as the name of the rushing river the bar is named for is Oconaluftee, which is a mouthful for a mush mouth. Fair is fair, I say. Please play along.
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03-16-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk67
Yes, some of the regs are "turrible"...others, not so much. It all depends on whether they are weak-tight, weak-aggressive, or play a pretty solid game - which I have seen all of the above.

I play pretty regularly on the weekends in the 1/2NL game, and have witnessed both good and bad play from some regs.

Perfect example on Sat night: 1 reg vs. an unknown. Reg has JJ in SB, Unknown in BB checks A7o in a limped pot (I folded my trash on the button)

Flop comes J77. SB checks his J's full, BB bets 3/4 pot, SB raises 3x. While BB goes into the tank, SB tells him outright "you need quad 77's to win" - BB folds, both show. Horrible move by the reg...he could have certainly stacked the BB who I think would have a hard time folding his trip 7's.

Yes, there are a lot of regs playing, but if you are observant, you can weed out the solid players from the nits and donks and play accordingly.
That's kinda weird because I think I was at this table!
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