They want to feel the cards and chips, makes it easier to soul read people.

****s rigged too obviously....

They used to have JOB 25cent on a multigame machine that was an 8/5 payout. (That puts it at 97% payout). That's probably the best slot machine return in the casino. You can find those odds on a few JOB machine, but now the lowest you will find that is on the $1 machines.

Do not play JOB on the other multi-game machines for 25 or 50 cents. They are 6/5 payouts. For example, you can find these at the bars. That puts them around 95% payout.

From what I've seen, the shamrock 7's and pot of gold machines have terrible payouts. Do not play the video BJ on the pot o gold machines. They have terrible rules and payouts.

If you want to find the lowest house edge, it's going to be in the pit at the Baccarat tables. If you bet Banker, I think it's around a 99% return per dollar.

I could be wrong, as I don't play a lot of slots, but I did do some research on the payouts when I needed to get some fast points for Diamond.

Very few regs would prefer to have live dealers from a perspective of direct impact to games.

However, there is a good chance that live cards will bring in more fish, especially those that play big in the pit.

2/5 rarely runs in Cherokee, with one of the main reasons being that players that want to play higher stakes don't want to play on electronic tables.


The word on the street is that they will keep the PokerPro tables for 1/2 and tournaments and have live dealers for 2/5 and other big games.

wow 6/5 is aweful payout. I didn't want to play higher than .25. Do you know if they have progressives on vp? that may bring back a little equity

I haven't been in 3 months, but all the "good" video poker was between the cage near the poker room and the sports bar.

There was a bank of 6 with $1/$2/$5 denominations. They had 99%+ JOB, NSUD, DB, BPDlx, and a few others, but only at the $5 level. DDB is 98.98%.

I must have missed those...but I don't want to play that high anyway. I just wanted to play through a couple bills and see if I got more offers and room comps. I've only played poker on my trips there so far.

I think they have progressives on DDB, but if they do, they're small ones. Like 20k on $5 machines.

Whenever they open the new section up, you will be able to find the 25cent 8/5 payout JOB machines that I used to play. They used to be right in front of the entrance to the old buffet if you know where that used to be.

I'll check next time I'm there, but I'm pretty sure they don't have ANY 99%+ payout machines on any games, including the $25+ machines. Pretty sure all the JOB machines I looked at are all 8/5.

I also don't think they have DDB that is 98.98%. Even at the highest limits.

Could someone explain the rewards program they have to me better? Like if I'm just going to be playing poker, what do I need to do to get I guess it looks like free rooms? How often do I get free rooms for doing x?

You receive comps based on your ADT.

Basically, the more you play over a short amount of days means that your ADT will increase. To get free weeknight rooms in Cherokee, you do not need to have a very high ADT. To get free weekend rooms, you will need to have an ADT >$100. Comped rooms are also based on how busy the hotel is for that night. So basically if you have a low ADT, you will have a better chance at getting a free room on a Wednesday night than on a Saturday night.

Are you stating that playing perfect blackjack is < betting banker in Bacc?

Thanks. I'm trying to get a rough idea here, if I play 40ish hours of poker per week, how many weeknight rooms might I gain in a month? Or is it like a ever-changing-kinda-random process?

There was also a .50 DDB progressive to the right of the walkway, near the bar, as you're walking from the parking garage. I think it was 8/5 (97.8%). If the progressive ever gets to $3500 or more (and you can get a seat), it's a >99.5% game.

Maybe they changed them in the last 3 months, but I can guarantee you that the bank I was describing (1/2/5 denom) had several 99+% games:
8/5 bonus - 99.17%
9/6 job - 99.54%
25/16/10 Deuces Wild - 99.73%
9/6 BDlx - 99.64%
(not 99%) 9/6 DDB - 98.98%

There was also a bank of $10 9/6 DDB that's 98.98%.

Depends on the BJ rules, and I don't know what rules Cherokee uses because I don't play in the pit.

You have a point though that BJ is almost always a lower house edge than Bac, but I was just thinking that Cherokee might have bad BJ rules.

Last time I looked was probably 4 or 5 months ago.. I was pretty sure that they had never had any 9/6 JOB machines in the casino, but I could be wrong.

Well, you're going to get better comps if you were to play 40 hrs of poker in 2 days than if you played 40 hrs in 6 days. I don't think many people know the exact amount of hours you need to play to get comped weeknight rooms. It depends on how busy the hotel is and probably a few other small factors.

And how do you know when you get comped? You just check online or what?

Go to the Total Rewards hotel reservations site and look at the rate calendar. It'll pop up a calendar with either prices or COMP on the different dates.

You don't have to play much to get weeknight room comps. I played a couple of 10 hour sessions and now it looks like I can stay 3 or 4 nights a week. Weekends are harder to get, but I did manage to get a Th and Fri recently. I've never gotten a Saturday.

Wow really? Its THAT easy to get free rooms??

Yeah, I was surprised, too. I assume they just have a ton of empty rooms during the week and they figure I'm good for a decent amount of rake.

Is the action decent mon thru thurs?

I'm gonna be up there the night of 2/23 and all day on 2/24 using my comped room...probably be decent action on a Thursday/Friday.

Let us say that they estimate that they rake $120 at a poker table. Divide it by 10 and each person is losing $12 per hour to the house. If you play 10 hrs per day, you're losing $120 to the casino. Even if you're only playing 5 hrs per day, that's $60 to the casino. It probably doesn't even cost the hotel $5 for shampoo, cleaning, etc. for a single room. Even if you don't take into account the fact that most people will put money in other games, such as slots, it still makes sense for the casino to comp free hotel rooms to poker players when there are plenty available.

This is why poker players can get rooms during the week, but not on weekends.

Are you hours logged as long as you have your players card inserted in the table? Do you need to mention anything to the poker host or anybody else?

I would hate to think I was accumulating hours only to be told that I missed some very small detail that was necessary to accumulate hours that count towards comps.

Thanks