Pokerbrat,

Would like to be able to answer 18, but age requirement at Harrah's Cherokee is 21.

Sorry

Lou

Heres my trip report from going yesterday.
I get a late start in the day as my 16m old son decides to pick this day to sleep to 11am instead of getting up at his usual 7am. Get him over to baby-sitters and then forget how to get their so mapquested it, and left around 12:30 or so. Make it their by 3pm cause mapquest told me to go the long way (on the way back i went the right way and made it in 1 1/2 hours.) Arrive at the casino and walk around trying to find the poker room. Did not see one sign advertising where it was. Finally found it and then got registered and was sitting down within 10 minutes of signing up. We did have a power failure and the waiting screen went down so i'm not sure how many people were waiting. Their was 3 1/2 tables and 1 3/6 table going. I played about 30 hands or so before being moved to another table so they could open up a 2/5 game which got started around 4:30 I believe. Played till 6, nothing unuasual happened. Busted a short stack with a set who berated me. won a flip with AK vs QQ which got me back to even. The tables i played had had an average of 4 limpers per hand, 100 ave pot. Plan on going back

I'm about 3 hours away in NC. I've never played a single hand of live poker ever, but I've beaten 100nl+ FR for >2.5 ptbb/100 for a year+ at PokerStars. From what it sounds like, I wouldn't have trouble with these 1/2 games, but what about 2/5? Or is that too general of a question?

You will prob be one of the top 2 players at the table all the way up to 5/10

When i played the other day the people from my 1/2 table were the ones that started up the 2/5 game. They were some of the worst players i've ever seen. I was sad they opened up a 2/5.

I'm going back tomorrow with a more proper roll than i went with the other day. Anybody else gonna be down their?

100 NL online plays like $1000 NL live. (Actually $100 NL FR online is probably tougher than 5/10 NL live).

It'll be a few months before I could go, but sounds fun. Thanks for the replies.

I work for a local college; therefore, I'm off next week, Spring Break.

I'm going up Weds-Fri. Hope to see some of you. Also, lookin' forward to see how the weekday games go; only been on Fridays and Saturdays so far.

bobaby

The first time I went (on opening weekend) I asked an attendant as I came in, where the poker room was. He gave me directions and said I would see a sign on the way directing me. I found the room, but never saw a sign. Figured I just missed it.

Second time I went I looked hard for the sign (just trying to see if it was helping to promote the room.) I again didn't see it.

I went this past Friday, and because the waiting list was so long, I did some exploring around the Casino. I finally found the (very unobtrusive) sign. Its facing in a direction so that it can only be read if you walking AWAY from the poker room! What a buncha Baffoons. (To be fair, it is facing folks coming in from the hotel, but again, only as they are walking away from poker room. People coming from the parking lot side will never see the sign.)

Trip report: At 5:30 pm on Friday, the 1/2 list was 19 folks long. Took an hour and a half to get on a table. The list eventually reached 34 people long. My 1/2 table was horribly nitty most of the night and, like a boob, I never requested a table change to one of the other two tables which were much better. I think my reasoning was that with 30 people on the list, I could afford to wait for the table to develop into a jucier table as new people cycled in. Why the fact that we went an hour and a half at one point without anybody leaving our table didn't clue me into the fact that this was a horrible idea I don't know. I ended up playing a couple of hours on better tables after ours broke and realizing what an idiot I am.

Two annoyances. When I first sat down, the floor was giving folks on the list five minutes to show up before calling the next name. That guy left fairly early and for the rest of the night/morning, they were giving people ten minutes to show. When the list is 30 people long that really, really sucks.

The other was that, in the wee am, after the list died, and the tables got unbalanced, the floor let people move from a shorter handed table to a fuller table, killing existing games. (The tables were ten handed, eight handed, and six handed, the floor let two peopld from our six handed table move to the eight handed game, breaking our table.) In fact, two tables broke in 20 minutes because of that. Interestingly, when we were down to one table of 1/2 NL two guys sat down to play heads up at one of the other tables, and that table then filled in about 15 minutes.

Hopefully the two new tables coming this week will help with the waiting lists on weekends.

Interesting statistical aside:

While playing on Friday I got A- 9 three hands in a row. I believe the odds against getting the exact same hole cards three hands in a row down to the suits are one million seven hundred fifty-eight thousand two hundred and seventy-five to one (1,758,275 - 1). Those are the odds against getting ANY hand three times in a row, the odds against getting specifically A-9 of Clubs three times in a row would be (2,331,473,975 -1 (aproximately 2.3 billion to one)). Feel free to correct my math if I'm wrong.

If I were a more suspicious man, I might wonder about poker pro's random number generator.

I'm not a particularly suspicious man, however.

Of the three A 9 hands I limped in and won the first and third, with trip nines and two pair respectively (I actually don't recall whether the trips or the two pair came first) and folded the second to a PF raise after limping in.

The odds of me specifically getting a 27 of diamonds, a KQ of diamonds, and a J3 of diamonds in a row is also approximately 2.3 billion to one.


Actually, I think your math is off, but you get my point.


It was only a matter of time before we started getting "ZOMG pokerpro tables are rigged!1!!!!1" posts.

I complained about the waitlist thing earlier in this thread. Ridiculous! Especially when the names they are calling were put on the list 4 hours before, like happens in the evening weekends. Two out of three are no longer even in the casino! So, it can take a half-hour or more to fill a seat.

I've never played a room that gave you even 5 minutes, much less ten. Give people 2 minutes, and if someone shows up right after you've given their seat away, then put them back at the top of the list.

Breaking up the short table is bad policy too, obv. They should be pulling someone from the full table to go over to the shorter one, if anything.

Decent signage in a couple places around the casino would be nice too, obv.

Not to slam the peeps running it too much, but these are pretty easy to see.

I've enjoyed playing there the couple times I've been.

Trip report from Mon. Very soft games. Wasn't sure some people had ever played before. I assume there's some decent players in room, but I didn't have any run ins with them. Made close to $100/hr playing 1/2 for 6 hrs. Many poker newbies who saw flops and could get easily run out of hands, and then reload.

Tables seemed to give lots of good hands. 80.00 ave pot size for a bit. Lot's of flops seen. Video tables were interesting- similar to online, but can get better tells from betting patterns, vs online, if this makes sense.

Room is too quiet, no alcohol, etc.

I may return one day, but won't go out of way.

i hope the electronic tables make it to commerce casino in california, i was there last night sweating a friend and the dealer was tossing the cards kinda high and i could see the face cards as the dealer spun them to my friend and i was standing up.!!! definitely not cool.
ed

One of the tables isn't playing any sound is can be slow to show cards... Think it is table 3.

Lolcashament,

1) take off your headphones and the sound will be fine.

2) table might be set in auto-slowwwwww-roll mode


thanks for the head up. Steve, Greg and Udit from PokerTek are on site installing the two additional tables, I forwarded them your note and they will check this out.

Say hi to them and let them know what you saw with slow cards . They will be in the room in about 20 minutes.

Lou

thank you for offering some information on your play so i could even more convincingly discard your hedged suspicion on the rng

Sounds pretty cool...I'm thinking about heading down this weekend to go check it out. Anyone have any recommendations of nice affordable places to stay outside the casino?

Yesterday they got a 5/10 limit plo game going on.

Our team has stayed at the Fairfield Inn. Clean and you can walk over to the Casino. $72+tax with AAA discount is what we paid.

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/trav...ites-cherokee/

just an FYI here is a link on the planned expansion at the Casino Resort. Looks pretty cool

http://www.harrahscherokee.com/casin...ng-detail.html




DAMN ! Actually first I heard of that. Thanks for the update. Were you able to get a glimpse of how the game was playing, number of players? how deep? type of action?

Two more PokerPro tables were added this week as planned and are up and running. So a total of 7 tables. Should help a bit with the long lists.

The Omaha game lasted about 2 hours; it was 5-10 limit. (High only)

They were 6-8 players and fell off from there.

Thanks Lou, I found some online coupons for the Best Western and Holdiay Inn for less than $50, but if they look dumpy I'll be sure to head over the the Fairfield The expansion looks like it will be very nice as well.

Limit Pot Limit Omaha?

I'd love to see a straight 1/2 or 2/5 PLO game run there. Yum yum.

played there from April 1st to April 3rd. Easy money! made 800+ during the trip playing 3-6 limit. The pokerpro tables are fun and fast paced but still have a live feel. I am definitely going back there!