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12-31-2009 , 10:15 AM
Going up this afternoon. Any fellow 2+2ers coming tonight?

Think it will be busy like a weekend?

Maybe an O8 game?

Happy and healthy 2010!
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12-31-2009 , 03:58 PM
Not going til tomorrow, Friday should be very active.


Still looking for more people to prop bet with... didn't get much side action on the 2/5 last week.
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12-31-2009 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bobaby007
Going up this afternoon. Any fellow 2+2ers coming tonight?

Think it will be busy like a weekend?

Maybe an O8 game?

Happy and healthy 2010!
Just got back. The poker room had only 4/7 tables running, no O8. Looks like even us degen poker players had something else to do on NYE.

They had a live band playing on a raised platform at the entrance of the casino.

Hey Bob. Happy New Year!
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01-04-2010 , 12:12 PM
meh still havent made a trip up yet. Will cost me at least $200 just to go from Fri-Sun. Chances of leaving up if playing 1/2?
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01-04-2010 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KikoSanchez
Yup, most of my tables were ~$35-50 a pot, which is still considerably higher than the avg 1/2 table online. But you have to look at more than just that, b/c this money is mostly passive money. It isn't a raise and a call or a raise and 3-bet (which I seriously saw 1 or 2 times in 17 hours of play). They were call, call, call, complete, check. I mean it was so sick compared to a game online. Simply NO ONE 3-bet light and I only saw one kid who ever isolated a limper light. It was just an open-limping fest. They kept calling me a bully just b/c I'd come in with a raise most of the time or isolate limpers, while I was playing fairly solid/close to the vest compared to the way I'd iso online in 6-max games.

Yes, the bad regs aren't losing any money because the non-regs are that much worse for one. Secondly, they're good at not giving away money, but they also play very straightforward and don't attack money either. The regs that I encountered mostly limped into pots (limping with JT EP, calling a raise oop in one instance) and just tried to hit very strong, they didn't make any tough moves otherwise. I'm sure they win vs the cows, but they are very easy to play and read for a decent player. Honestly the toughest guy I played was an older man who just potted tons if checked to, potted any draws, etc. Atleast he was tricky and made you think, which none of the regs really did and surely none of the other non-regs ever did. Most of the non-regs were complete non-thinking old school players that think it all comes down to "lady luck" or "who gets the cards" and believe AK, AA, KK, and JJ are the devil and "always lose." The ones who raise with KK, then c-bet an A-board IP just to "get information."

tl;dr Easy game over there. Still, it's only 1/2, so more of a fun experience than worth a significant hourly boost to .5/1 and up online players. Then again, it's a very relaxing and easy way to make money while having fun.

In terms of LIVE 1/2 this sounds like one of the worst tables i could imagine. Passive rocks and isolating limpers?? I dont even think I've ever heard of anyone isolating in a 1/2 live game lol Sounds like a horrible table.
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01-04-2010 , 03:29 PM
Here's my experience from a trip in early November. Background: this was only my second time playing live--the first time was on a cruise ship in March (won $350 in one session of 2/5, but that's a different story). I'm primarily a tourney/SnG player online, though I have played ring games from .10/.25 up to 1/2 where overall I'm not a winner. I've only been playing poker (exclusively NLHE) for a little over two years. I've been lurking on these forums for a few months and this is my first post.

I drove up from Atlanta on a Friday afternoon, planning to play for 4-5 hours and then drive home. I was seated at a 1/2 table around 4:00 pm. Mostly a bunch of older guys at the table (mid-50's and up--I'm 48), a young guy (20's) to my right and a 30-ish guy to my left who's the only one I could clearly peg as a regular.

As stated previously, the game was very passive: limp, limp, limp, check, check, min-raise, etc. Most stacks were in the $100 range, some around $200, with one guy sitting on $500 (I bought in at $200). I played very tight for about an hour--maybe three orbits since we were playing around 35 hand per hour, slower than what I had expected. I wanted to watch what was going on and establish a rock-tight image.

After watching all this passivity, I started to get a little agressive to see what would happen. Over the next three hours I won twelve hands without a single showdown (the table gives you these statistics) and was up $150. The hands I won generally went one of two ways: (1) I'm in late position with four limpers ahead of me ($11 in the pot), I raise to $12 and everyone folds; or, (2) I open raise pre-flop to $7 and get two callers ($21-24 in the pot), then c-bet the flop for $15 and everyone folds. The young guy to my right even commented at one point that no one wanted to call my bets. If anyone played back at me I usually let it go.

Again, this was only my second time playing live, so I don't know if this was a good session or not. The reg to my left said it was a crappy table because the average pot size was less than $30; he said that average pots sizes were more generally $60-70. He also claimed he's been up as much as $1000-1200 on good nights. I was pretty happy to walk away with $150, but overall I found the experience somewhat boring.

I'll probably go back again sometime this month, especially now that I can get a beer. Maybe the games are looser after 8:00 pm, but I don't want to spring for a hotel room, yet (at least not until I know whether I can win at these games consistently).
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01-04-2010 , 06:01 PM
Rake is 10% up to a cap of $5.

If playing @ 35 hands/hr. + pot ave. @ $30 you have a rake of around $100 per hour.

If most stacks are $100 then the table is not beatable for anything remotely worthwhile.

Of course there are people who think they can come in and "outplay them postflop" and make "at least $35 per hour".

LOL.

But then that happens in the weekend night games when the pot averages are more like $60.

So you should be able to work this out.
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01-04-2010 , 06:14 PM
I would think there would be alot more people playing this coming spring and summer. I know when I was in Cherokee during the winter months there wasnt much to do. Not many tourists then.
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01-04-2010 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jolyroger
Rake is 10% up to a cap of $5.

If playing @ 35 hands/hr. + pot ave. @ $30 you have a rake of around $100 per hour.

If most stacks are $100 then the table is not beatable for anything remotely worthwhile.

Of course there are people who think they can come in and "outplay them postflop" and make "at least $35 per hour".

LOL.

But then that happens in the weekend night games when the pot averages are more like $60.

So you should be able to work this out.
Massive error in your reasoning here is that you aren't playing nearly as many hands as the others at the table and thus aren't being raked at the rate you think you are.
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01-05-2010 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopscotch
Massive error in your reasoning here is that you aren't playing nearly as many hands as the others at the table and thus aren't being raked at the rate you think you are.
Well, matter of fact, I know how many hands I play and you don't.

But I guess you have proved your point, whatever the hell it is.
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01-09-2010 , 11:54 AM
So with the weather being the way its been, is there still a decent amount of poker going on right now? Are the roads to Cherokee coming from NC (asheville for example) clear and ok to drive? Thinking about going up Tuesday or Wednesday but i've stayed away due to the bad weather.

Thanks
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01-09-2010 , 12:08 PM
I am here now and there were 4 full 1-2 tables running last night. Mostly regulars with maybe 10% novice players. The weather and the rock slide on I-40 has really killed a lot of the action. Fri/Sat was usually when all the tables were full and you had to wait 1+ hours to get in a game. Plus they gave us a free room on a Fri/Sat night which is usually unheard of unless you are Seven Stars.
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01-14-2010 , 08:27 AM
Ended up going Tuesday, only two tables of 1/2NL going and 1 SNG when i quit at around 9:30/10pm...but was told the cash game went till 4am. So there's not alot of tables running during the week but the players are willing to play all night. I managed to get a comped room so i stayed and played till about 4:30 wednesday, and there were 3 1/2NL games going then. Kinda sad to see that the rock slide has hurt business this much but i'm glad to see there's still alot of the regulars playing regardless. Especially since its gonna be months till that's cleared up . I'll be back.
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01-15-2010 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott R.
Ended up going Tuesday, only two tables of 1/2NL going and 1 SNG when i quit at around 9:30/10pm...but was told the cash game went till 4am. So there's not alot of tables running during the week but the players are willing to play all night. I managed to get a comped room so i stayed and played till about 4:30 wednesday, and there were 3 1/2NL games going then. Kinda sad to see that the rock slide has hurt business this much but i'm glad to see there's still alot of the regulars playing regardless. Especially since its gonna be months till that's cleared up . I'll be back.
Does that really take away a lot of business? There have never been too many tables running when I was there in the past.
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01-15-2010 , 10:18 PM
could anyone link me to a schedule of tourneys/sngs they run here? tried to find it myself but not suprisingly failed. id appreciate it a lot. gl to all.
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01-16-2010 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by OsTornado
Does that really take away a lot of business? There have never been too many tables running when I was there in the past.
Dunno when you went before, but the last time i had been there in November all the tables were full and the games lasted far into the morning. The rockslide has taken business away from the TN direction due to, what i'm told is, a 4hr detour. From what people are saying the weekend traffic is still really good, but the workweek traffic is down.

Only SnGs i know of are on Tuesdays, 100+15s, and they start in the morning around 10am...and just start whenever they fill up.
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01-16-2010 , 10:35 AM
Can someone post up the direct number to the poker room please?
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01-16-2010 , 11:17 PM
I'm sure the answer to this question is somewhere within the caverns of this thread, but is the gambling age here 18 or 21?
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01-16-2010 , 11:23 PM
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I'm sure the answer to this question is somewhere within the caverns of this thread, but is the gambling age here 18 or 21?
21
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01-16-2010 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JonHizall
could anyone link me to a schedule of tourneys/sngs they run here? tried to find it myself but not suprisingly failed. id appreciate it a lot. gl to all.
Sundays and Tuesdays.
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01-16-2010 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OsTornado
Does that really take away a lot of business? There have never been too many tables running when I was there in the past.
Friday and Saturdays are busy; however, Fridays have fallen off some.
Saturday nights will have seven tables going with a list.

1-2/5 NL
4-1/2 NL
1-3/6 Limit
1-PLO8 (Sometimes)
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01-17-2010 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jolyroger
Can someone post up the direct number to the poker room please?
828-497-8284
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01-18-2010 , 08:21 PM
3 1/2 NL & 1 3/6 L. For some reason they are forcing a 10 - 15 min break on each table every 2 hrs for a complete germophobe wipedown of everything - table, rail, chairs, etc. I heard the room mgr reply when asked why, "you'll be reading about it soon...". Kind of disrupts game flow & fwiw on our 1st one I took a 30 min lunch break (the Fresh Market buffet is seriously tasty). The second time I just went ahead & cashed out (had to leave soon anyway). I heard several others complaining. Noticed the bus driver back to parking lot wearing surgical gloves. Must be something nasty on the loose unto these hills. Uneventful session for me - double up $200 buy in early & give it back slowly over next 3 hours to break even.
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01-18-2010 , 10:01 PM
yeah that was annoying the heck outta me sunday. The first time we just started 7 handed on a full table because 3 people didn't come back in 15min when they told us 5. The second time i just cashed out after waiting 10min and, after waiting probably 10min to cash out at the cage, the table still hadn't restarted. It probably broke the table honestly, and that's just not going to be a viable procedure for cash game poker. Disrupts the flow of the game.

Guess we wait and see what bug is flying around the casino in the next week or so lol.
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01-18-2010 , 10:05 PM
This is really not the news they need to see on an internet forum is it?

Please post us up with info on this epidemic please though its entirely possible that the news of a possible swine flue pandemic has just now reached Western NC.

It sounds pretty ridiculous tho can't you just see Harrah's pausing games on tables with real chips to "sanitize" everything?

Must indeed be something specific to this casino and possible specific to regular poker patrons. Anyone know of any casino wide effort? Somehow I doubt they are going through and wiping down all the slot machines hourly.

This is really weird.
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