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10-23-2013 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Porcupine
Does anyone if there are tier credits given for poker tournaments? (daily PokerPro and stuff like WSOPc)
Players earn one hour of credit for each digital tournament in which they play, including SNG's. I do not believe players earned credit for the WSOP in April, but I am unsure if that will remain true in the future.
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10-23-2013 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by phunkyplum
December structures?
Yes please. I do like how it's on the main page of the website getting some promo. Please post structure sheets for numbered events at least.
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10-23-2013 , 07:48 PM
I'm thinking about about coming to the tournament in Dec. I think more people would show up if they had some guaranteed payouts, or at least for the main event like the wsopc had back in April. I suggest 350k guaranteed for the main. That would sound good on a radio spot.
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10-23-2013 , 09:39 PM
Looks like the only event that's gonna work for me is Event #10, the turbo NLH. I didn't see the level times listed though. How turbo is this gonna be?
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10-23-2013 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JimBobCooter
I'm thinking about about coming to the tournament in Dec. I think more people would show up if they had some guaranteed payouts, or at least for the main event like the wsopc had back in April. I suggest 350k guaranteed for the main. That would sound good on a radio spot.
Not going to happen considering the HUGE turnout last April and there wasn't any guarantees during WSOPC. They did give away two $10k WSOP ME seats though.
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10-24-2013 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ReedMoney
Not going to happen considering the HUGE turnout last April and there wasn't any guarantees during WSOPC. They did give away two $10k WSOP ME seats though.
I know the turnout was great in April, but this series of tournaments has no name recognition. Also, what will the weather be like? This could affect turnout.
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10-24-2013 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JimBobCooter
I know the turnout was great in April, but this series of tournaments has no name recognition. Also, what will the weather be like? This could affect turnout.
I agree, but Cherokee will not do GTD. tournaments the first time they run a Winter series.
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10-26-2013 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasCrazy
http://www.harrahscherokee.com/conte...icSchedule.pdf

Here is a link to a more clear structure

Just noticed that this series is sponsored by Movado and there giving watches to the winner of the noon events, that's a nice perk
Anthony,

For the Dec 5 - Dec 15 tournaments:

The nightly $135 NLH: what part of the $135 is fees? $15? $25? $35?

For all the other tournaments, same question: what part of the cost goes to prize money, what part is fees?

Wish Movado had provided this info.
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10-26-2013 , 03:13 PM
^^^^

Would be great to have this info, also structures and late reg information.

AnthonyJ, will you please post this information here or the thread in MTTc Live. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/65...rokee-1369580/

Thanks.
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10-26-2013 , 09:17 PM
Harrah's needs some competition very badly. I hear rumors of another casino opening up in Cherokee (meaning different from the confirmed Harrah's in Murphy), but no details. Monopolies like this are nothing but bad for us. It's better than no poker at all of course but sometimes you wonder.
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10-26-2013 , 10:50 PM
just had another terrible floor ruling. guy mucks his cards on river and as me and another guy are flipping our hand over, he says "400". Floored is called, dealer said it was top two cards in muck. floor has to shuffle through the cards to find the two the guy says he is playing. Guy was claiming 9-2 and the floor gave it to him. board was 22j-3-9. Two spades on flop. Guy was a tight player that wouldn't have called with 9-2 pre, and probably would not have played it that way if he did call pre (he check called flop and turn). It was a fold that floor ruled a raise, then changed to a call. sadly, this has happened several times and the rule keeps changing based on whoever the floor is.
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10-26-2013 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jediburke
just had another terrible floor ruling. guy mucks his cards on river and as me and another guy are flipping our hand over, he says "400". Floored is called, dealer said it was top two cards in muck. floor has to shuffle through the cards to find the two the guy says he is playing. Guy was claiming 9-2 and the floor gave it to him. board was 22j-3-9. Two spades on flop. Guy was a tight player that wouldn't have called with 9-2 pre, and probably would not have played it that way if he did call pre (he check called flop and turn). It was a fold that floor ruled a raise, then changed to a call. sadly, this has happened several times and the rule keeps changing based on whoever the floor is.
Holy crap.....

I say I'd like to be good at 1/2 and grind up to 2/5 but then I see stories like this and think PokerPro might be the ticket. Then I get out my conspiracy hat and think they almost do it on purpose by having terrible staff to encourage PokerPro use so they don't have to pay staff.
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10-27-2013 , 12:03 AM
Here is one from two weeks ago... A friend of mine 4-bet shoves pre. The guy that 3-bets hasn't called/folded yet and the dealer deals the flop out. My friend tries to get him to stop by telling him that he is allin... The dealer runs out turn and river with the 3-bettor still to act. The guy hits a set and calls after the cards have ran out. The guy wins the pot and the floor says they can't do anything because the pot has already been pushed to the guy.

If anyone doubts this crap happens, meet me in the poker room and I'll point out the dealer/floor in these hands and you can ask them what they were thinking.
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10-27-2013 , 01:28 PM
I'm curious on how they plan on running their mini series and where the dealers are going to come from.
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10-27-2013 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by isteal
Legitimate source....
Has the poker room rep (believe his name is Anthony) ever addressed these type of sceanrios? Inquiring about them or providing any explanation here?

I've been reading this thread for a while. I live in Raleigh and have been thinking about heading out for a weekend, but these type of things should not happen in any casino room nowadays.

Also, are the structures set for the series? Can the be posted to the site (preferred) or at least here?
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10-27-2013 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
I'm curious on how they plan on running their mini series and where the dealers are going to come from.
Same WSOP crew/dealers that was there in April.
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10-27-2013 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
Has the poker room rep (believe his name is Anthony) ever addressed these type of sceanrios? Inquiring about them or providing any explanation here?

I've been reading this thread for a while. I live in Raleigh and have been thinking about heading out for a weekend, but these type of things should not happen in any casino room nowadays.

Also, are the structures set for the series? Can the be posted to the site (preferred) or at least here?
I'm a local and can confirm the poor quality of the dealers. Common stories include: dealer running out the board as if it were an all-in (when not), dealer pushing the pot to "winner" with four cards on the board (river? anyone?), and most commonly putting out the turn or river with one player yet to act from the previous street.

It is just going to take time. I'd give it another year or so before it reaches a passable level.
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10-27-2013 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sardu
I'm a local and can confirm the poor quality of the dealers. Common stories include: dealer running out the board as if it were an all-in (when not), dealer pushing the pot to "winner" with four cards on the board (river? anyone?), and most commonly putting out the turn or river with one player yet to act from the previous street.

It is just going to take time. I'd give it another year or so before it reaches a passable level.
I think they need to quit pooling tips. They are unmotivated. They walk around and deal like they don't care. I wouldn't care either except I take pride in my work. They dont even have that.
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10-27-2013 , 09:45 PM
Anyone have an estimate of number of players expected for the weekend reentry events for the Dec Series? ($365 Event 2 and $1125 Main Event)

Is 65% of the WSOPC turnout in April too much to hope for?
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10-27-2013 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ledn378

Is 65% of the WSOPC turnout in April too much to hope for?
Yes. April marketing in Atlanta was everywhere. Haven't heard anything other than on here for December.

Plus, the weather is going to be a big factor. Even Friday afternoon the gap had icy patches. Even a threat of bad wether will keep a lot of people away. No one wants to be trapped in Cherokee.
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10-28-2013 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoMoos
Anthony,

For the Dec 5 - Dec 15 tournaments:

The nightly $135 NLH: what part of the $135 is fees? $15? $25? $35?

For all the other tournaments, same question: what part of the cost goes to prize money, what part is fees?

Wish Movado had provided this info.
Why would a watch/jewelry company provide buyin breakdowns or blind structures? They are paying to advertise their brand, like Coca-Cola or Nike.

If i had to guess, I'd estimate the breakdown to be $110+$25 but it wouldn't surprise me if were higher. Don't see how those tourneys are ever +ev though.
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10-28-2013 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jediburke
just had another terrible floor ruling. guy mucks his cards on river and as me and another guy are flipping our hand over, he says "400". Floored is called, dealer said it was top two cards in muck. floor has to shuffle through the cards to find the two the guy says he is playing. Guy was claiming 9-2 and the floor gave it to him. board was 22j-3-9. Two spades on flop. Guy was a tight player that wouldn't have called with 9-2 pre, and probably would not have played it that way if he did call pre (he check called flop and turn). It was a fold that floor ruled a raise, then changed to a call. sadly, this has happened several times and the rule keeps changing based on whoever the floor is.
I was there for the weekend and witnessed this. I moved to the table and they were talking about it for hours.
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10-28-2013 , 04:07 PM
I played there this weekend and the games seemed great.

why can't you tip the floor or podium guys?

Why can you only have one table change a night? I like to bounce around and sit in the fishiest game but was only allowed one table change.

Where's a good place to live within 30 minute drive to the casino? Trying to relocate and this place is beautiful.
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10-28-2013 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Justice Bieber
Why would a watch/jewelry company provide buyin breakdowns or blind structures? They are paying to advertise their brand, like Coca-Cola or Nike.

If i had to guess, I'd estimate the breakdown to be $110+$25 but it wouldn't surprise me if were higher. Don't see how those tourneys are ever +ev though.
They would provide buyin breakdowns because it is stupid to not do that. The blind structures are published. (Oops! Edit--no, they're not.)

Based on a flyer (received today) for the Horseshoe Bossier City Event, Nov 7-18:

$135 = $100 + $35
$250 = $200 + $50
$365 = $300 + $65

So, my current best guess is that Cherokee breakdown will be the same. It'd be nice to have confirmation. And, yeah, that's not a +ev breakdown.

Last edited by TwoMoos; 10-28-2013 at 06:51 PM. Reason: ... couldn't find blind structures :(
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10-29-2013 , 08:54 AM
Has the .25-.50 PLO game done anything yet? Does any PLO run during the week or is it still a weekend only game?
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