No. Two of the tables shuffle masters were broken all weekend and no one could be bothered to fix them. Gotta love the Cherokee way.

Has anyone seen blind structure sheets for the upcoming december tournaments...?

I would assume or hope they are the same as WSOPC.

Speaking of the circuit, usually how big are the turnouts for the WSOPC? Is it a ton of people with bigger than usual cash games running on the side?

I'm trying to plan out if I will need to take a vacation or not this December and when the Circuit comes to town or if I just need to make a few day trips.

April was the first time the WSOPC was there. It was HUGE! They should have more tables next for cash and tournaments. However the cash games were full the whole time. I expect an even bigger turnout in April.

December is somewhat unknown because of weather, lack of a brand like WSOP, etc. I'm sure there will still be a very good turnout though.

Its going to be 75 tables put up for this event, and yes the structures will be Wsopc structures or very similar. Hopefully huge numbers

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Any locals have ideas/suggestions for those who plan to stay for the duration of the series?

Yeah I was sitting at one on Friday night and the floor said I can call for them to fix it but they won't show up! LOL I guess they don't realize that it costs THEM money when the shuffler is down.

Jep, its cash game heaven during the wsopc events. Probably December events as well.

To be honest, you will need TIME to get on the games you want, and day trips, I dont know man. Sounds risky and rushed, and no guarantees that you will get the games you want. Late late nights m-a-y-b-e things thin out a little, but the problem is lack of dealers when the tournaments are over filling.

7-Star card holders can now jump the line for cash games. Several guys had already bought companion cards from 7 star members. Saw a guy at the top of the list get bumped four consecutive times. Added at least an hour to his wait time. Not acceptable.

That's some BS. Probably good for the games though. I figure if they gamble enough to have 7stars they make some bad gambles at the poker table too

I have not been to a lot of different casinos maybe a half dozen or so but I have never seen or heard of players getting bumped for not having high enough card level. I did wait close to 2 1/2 hours for a game at the horseshoe in Hammond IN that would have sucked to get bumped out at the end of a 2 hour + wait

This needs to be stopped ASAP!

The "7-star jumps the line" is standard afaik. I even read here on 2+2 that one time a 7-star was given a seat immediately at a casino in Atlantic City despite there being no seats available. How did they do it? They made the table 11-handed. No, I am not kidding.

plz clarify the 'or very similar' if possible. It always bothers when its typically said they are similar except o wait instead of 40min levels it will be 30min levels. "Its just 10 minutes so its very close to the same thing!" they say without any comprehension of tournament poker at all.

Hopefully they post structures soon for this tournament. The similar comment was directed towards side events not Noon events. When I talked to them they just told me it was the structures they had in April for the WSOPC event.

http://www.harrahscherokee.com/conte...icSchedule.pdf

Here is a link to a more clear structure

Just noticed that this series is sponsored by Movado and there giving watches to the winner of the noon events, that's a nice perk

Is Cherokee trying to make this the worst room to ever play in? Why would the casino want their 7 Stars playing 2-5 instead of dumping in the pit?

And for those expecting the Dec tourney to have the turnouts like last WSOPC, it ain't happening. No guarantees, and the thought of being 100-150 deep on a cash list like last Spring is not very attractive.

The .25/.50 PLO game is laughable. I understand W NC is somehwhat rural and depressed, but if your going to room this game, should they run one for cigarettes too....like they do in prison?

Too many stupid statements above, try to add something useful to the conversation next time.

LOL at people demanding the 7-star line cutting be stopped. It's a perk of being a preferred player. They've "earned" the right to do it.

Up until now, Cherokee was the exception to the rule. I have traveled to harrah's properties all over the US within the last year and everyone I went to allowed 7 stars to jump to the top of the list. A higher % of 7 star players are massive fish that will not wait in line for a game. You should be wanting them to show up and be able to get on a table right away instead of wandering down to the pit.

I respect your opinions, but there are circumstances at Cherokee that make this different from other poker rooms.

First, there are only 5 live tables in the entire poker room.

Second, there is an absurd ratio of seven star:non seven star players in this room. Many of the seven stars skipping the lines are companion seven stars. Their tier is irrelevant and they haven't "earned" their status as you suggest; They just have a good friend/family who is a seven star or have paid a few hundred to a random seven star to get companion status. This creates a system wherein there are dozens of seven stars/companions playing every day in a room with only 45 seats. This is what differentiates it from a place like AC or Vegas where there are a ton of seats and not a lot of seven stars in the room.

Also, this is Cherokee, NC. Not a lot of tourist influx, just a ton of locals and regs meaning that when a tourist does come in, he/she is not going to get a seat. When I was there on Saturday, the first guy on the list had to wait 4 hours for a seat because seven stars kept on bumping him down. There were another 20 names on the list that probably either never got seated or had to wait another 4+ hrs. There is going to be basically zero influx of new players into the games if this rule holds up, which for obvious reasons is terrible for the health of the games.

Personally, I think the rule is terrible for everyone's interests including the seven stars and the casino but I don't have a problem with the fairness of it. I just think it's kind of a dumb business practice.

Problem would be easily fixed if they only let seven stars cut and make companions wait.

Those are definitely a lot of unique circumstances that aren't found in majority of rooms. Maybe, for Cherokee, the policy should change after all.

Good thing you aren't running the casino.

7 star line cutting is standard everywhere else. I think some players finally complained that this perk wasn't in place for Cherokee. The companion card cutting perk could be considered for removal due to unfair abuses that seemingly violate the spirit of the program. However, perhaps a fair solution is to charge companion card holders a fixed amount in TCs such as 500 per line skip. The upfront $5 in ev lost may dissuade the aforementioned grinder type to line cut less frequently while still retaining the line cut rights for juicy games.

Your comment about a potentially poor Dec turnout and "100-150" deep cash list makes no sense.

PLO is a good game with a high barrier of entry due to the large $ fluctuations. I applaud the poker room for implementing a smaller game to encourage new players to take a shot. The long term appeal and player pool of this poker room should benefit from this over time. It is also better to eventually have a .25/50 running daily than the sole 1/2 only on weekends. Let the experiment play out before passing judgment.

Cherokee poker has come a long way in 2013. WSOPc was a huge success. The new .25/.50 plo game experiment and dec tournament series are a result of active strategic planning by management; a very good sign w/ regards to the casino's outlook on the future of the poker room.

It might be time to increase the number of live dealer tables by one or two.

Hey have so many unused tables during week, why not run different games? At least start an interest list and if it gets at least 5 people on it, go ahead and run it. They should offer games like stud, omaha, lim he, maybe even offer a list for 5/10, 10/20, you never know who may be around on any given day. I know its not Vegas but they could strive to be more like a Vegas poker room.
They should have a high hand bonus / bad beat jackpot. That alone should draw more people to the room.

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