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Old 10-19-2012, 03:18 PM   #101
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Also they couldn't even tell me why that was their policy..
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:48 PM   #102
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Also they couldn't even tell me why that was their policy..
they did you a favor. just go to the shoe.
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Old 10-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #103
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So it took the new manager 6 months to realize that the industry standard in buy-ins was worth implementing?

Worst. Room. Ever.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:24 PM   #104
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this really is one of the worst rooms and only survives on its location. my hourly is up an insane amount after changing my play from here to $4 max rake games elsewhere. the location is nice for many people in suburbs but if you put in significant hours at all even at 1/2 youre better off driving or shuttling to horseshoe. my winrate was so ***** neutered from playing here its not even funny. the games really arent that great either.
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:01 PM   #105
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Re: Grand Victoria Casino (Elgin, IL)

And what casino in Chicagoland has a $4 rake?
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:48 PM   #106
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:17 PM   #107
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Thats right. None. So your boast of $4 rake is BS unless you moved to Vegas. All rooms in the Chicago area suck for the consumer. They all jack up the rake knowing full well there is no competition with lower rake to take business away.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:01 PM   #108
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i made it clear previously and currently my games with $4 rake are not in chicago. what are you crying about?? keep gettin raped at gvc, bye
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:26 PM   #109
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Thats right. None. So your boast of $4 rake is BS unless you moved to Vegas. All rooms in the Chicago area suck for the consumer. They all jack up the rake knowing full well there is no competition with lower rake to take business away.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:24 AM   #110
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Re: Grand Victoria Casino (Elgin, IL)

Just moved to Naperville and not planning to seriously grind at 1/2 but would like to find a a game one maybe two nights a week. Is my best option driving to the Hshoe??
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:38 AM   #111
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Just moved to Naperville and not planning to seriously grind at 1/2 but would like to find a a game one maybe two nights a week. Is my best option driving to the Hshoe??
if you are a winner your winrate will be severely affected by the rake. i strongly recommend finding the nearest horseshoe shuttle to where you live and taking it there instead. having a $8-9 rake, with no bbj, preflop raking, and having to tip dealers on top of all that does not leave a lot for you to take home at 1/2. also comps are pathetic and games are only slightly better than shoe.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:03 PM   #112
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All you fish need to grow up, Gvc knows what they are doing contrary to what you may think Mike B, they are there to make money and for them to have a poker room an 8 dollar rake is what it takes to compensate for 6 gaming spots per table. Let me fill you in with a little inside knowledge, each slot machine makes about 400 dollars a day,thats 2400 dollars per poker table. I can tell you even with a 8 dollar rake they dont make that.All you idiots want to compare us to the shoe which falls under very differint rules by the state, they pay 30% tax and unlimited gaming spots to our 50% tax and 1800 gaming spots.So mike and all you other fools should get a little information on what your talking about before just running your mouth.We fight for you guys all day long and all we get is your bull****..please drive to the shoe we have plenty of customers who like it there.. Its 8 dollars or no room and no jobs.So grow up and go where your happy instead of cutting down a company that is doing what it needs to in order to have a poker room
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:27 AM   #113
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All you fish need to grow up, Gvc knows what they are doing contrary to what you may think Mike B, they are there to make money and for them to have a poker room an 8 dollar rake is what it takes to compensate for 6 gaming spots per table. Let me fill you in with a little inside knowledge, each slot machine makes about 400 dollars a day,thats 2400 dollars per poker table. I can tell you even with a 8 dollar rake they dont make that.All you idiots want to compare us to the shoe which falls under very differint rules by the state, they pay 30% tax and unlimited gaming spots to our 50% tax and 1800 gaming spots.So mike and all you other fools should get a little information on what your talking about before just running your mouth.We fight for you guys all day long and all we get is your bull****..please drive to the shoe we have plenty of customers who like it there.. Its 8 dollars or no room and no jobs.So grow up and go where your happy instead of cutting down a company that is doing what it needs to in order to have a poker room

At this point you pretty much admit that you work for GVC. You might as well out yourself.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:42 AM   #114
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My favorite part is that he's wrong on most of it.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:48 AM   #115
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All you fish need to grow up, Gvc knows what they are doing contrary to what you may think Mike B, they are there to make money and for them to have a poker room an 8 dollar rake is what it takes to compensate for 6 gaming spots per table. Let me fill you in with a little inside knowledge, each slot machine makes about 400 dollars a day,thats 2400 dollars per poker table. I can tell you even with a 8 dollar rake they dont make that.All you idiots want to compare us to the shoe which falls under very differint rules by the state, they pay 30% tax and unlimited gaming spots to our 50% tax and 1800 gaming spots.So mike and all you other fools should get a little information on what your talking about before just running your mouth.We fight for you guys all day long and all we get is your bull****..please drive to the shoe we have plenty of customers who like it there.. Its 8 dollars or no room and no jobs.So grow up and go where your happy instead of cutting down a company that is doing what it needs to in order to have a poker room
who are you calling Mike B?
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:37 AM   #116
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hi joe.

preflop rake is unacceptable i dont care what state you are in or what planet you are on or what govt regs you have to work under. bottom line. $8max is equally absurd. .50/hr comps are virtually insulting, are there govt regulations holding that down too? you have a lot of work to do to win people with a brain over.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:48 AM   #117
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by the way i calculated a rough estimate of what gvc rakes per day and it came out at $20,000/day for the whole room, which a dealer confirmed to me.

> $2400/table. nice try.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:57 AM   #118
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6 (tables) x 32 (hands per hour) x 4 (avg rake per hand) x 22 (hours per day) =$17k. thats not even counting dealer tips, which players pay the vast majority of your dealers income, joe. it also doesnt count when there was an extra table. funny how gvc has millions of dollars to donate every year but cant seem to find a way to lower their rake or pay their employees more.

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:33 AM   #119
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i also love the feel of a poker room manager calling his customers fish on the internet for voicing their complaints. really gives that professional feel, and should really convince everyone that youre working hard for them..........as opposed to attempting to justify the ludicrous status quo at gvc
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:41 AM   #120
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Re: Grand Victoria Casino (Elgin, IL)

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i also love the feel of a poker room manager calling his customers fish on the internet for voicing their complaints. really gives that professional feel, and should really convince everyone that youre working hard for them..........as opposed to attempting to justify the ludicrous status quo at gvc
You forgot idiots and fools.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:07 PM   #121
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i also love the feel of a poker room manager calling his customers fish on the internet for voicing their complaints. really gives that professional feel, and should really convince everyone that youre working hard for them..........as opposed to attempting to justify the ludicrous status quo at gvc
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:29 PM   #122
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:47 PM   #123
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i will post 10 times in a row in this thread until these jokers change
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:06 AM   #124
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i will post 10 times in a row in this thread until these jokers change
dude if you dont wanna drive to the shoe, just go to a charitable games. the rake is even worse but the games are so soft it easily makes up for it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:36 PM   #125
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Re: Grand Victoria Casino (Elgin, IL)

Fools,Idiots,fish and rats,As usual you dont know what the f you are talking about,, I will call you anything i want as you 2/5 players were the rats that went to debbie and told her I called her a c--t, and it was you daytime players because i worked days... Rats, you guys deserved debbie and i wish she was still there to stick it to you and kick you all out.. If you think this was Joe your even bigger idiots that i thought, Joe Z is the only freind you guys have.But hopefully when i print this out and bring it to him he realizes you Guys are a bunch of back stabbing cry babies.. you all deserved Debbie
and a 12 dollar rake..
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