Time to play PLO!

Foxwoods is a PLO poker room now… NL big games moved to Mohegan

Is Foxwoods still as liberal as ever with their comped rooms or has the well dried up?

It's usually a bit tough during the summer months, especially for poker only players, doubly true for those who play shorter sessions on average.

FYI traffic around the casinos is gonna be a bitch for as long as the southbound side of the Gold Star bridge is closed. People are clogging up the back roads trying to access 95 south via 395

https://www.theday.com/article/20230...hway-shutdown/

Has there been any news on Two Trees?

What killed the 20/40 LHE game at Foxwoods (FW) was the 3 huge sites got shut down on the internet in 2012 (if I remember correctly). There were 4 or 5 (or more) amazing LHE players that descended on FW. The fish could no longer ever win so they stopped playing. That meant that the regulars could no longer win. And even winning players like me became losing or break even players. Within a year FW went from having 4 to 5 tables that went round the clock from Friday until Monday to 1 table that basically shut down late every night even on the weekend.

There was a time when Foxwoods had FIVE 20/40 Limit Hold Em tables running at once?

Easily. Plus a couple of $10-20 limit and occasionally $40-80 or $50-100.

And 5/10 with a kill.

My father used to love that 5/10 game. It ran regularly when I was just starting out and I wish I had the bankroll at the time to play it.

The 5/10 Kill game often played bigger than the 10/20 game. Great game. I miss it.

The best part was that the kill was triggered by pot size of $100+ and not 2 consecutive wins, so when the game was going good, you'd have more kill hands than non kill hands.

What year did Foxwoods start spreading No Limit? And did they start with $1/$2 and eventually added higher no limit games, or start bigger and eventually offer $1/$2?

That’s a good question. When the room was upstairs they def had 1/2. So prob around 2003. . Only stud and LHE dominated the room

My memory may be a bit off on this timeline, but I will attempt to provide a chronological order of the evolution of No Limit Hold-em at Foxwoods. I started playing cash games there (primarily 7 card stud) around 1995 and at that time the only "big bet" game ever spread was pot-limit Hold-em. This usually was spread on the same day as their big re-buy tournament (I believe Thursdays) and was largely built around and frequented by 2004 ME winner Greg Raymer who was a regular in the room at that time. I think the blinds were $2-2 and buy-in might have been capped at either $300 or $500. True No- Limit probably didn't appear until around 2003. The earliest games I can recall being spread were $1-2 with a tiny cap of $100 (and $5 a half time charge) and the significantly larger $5-5 uncapped. For a brief while there was an in between game with $2-4 blinds (not sure of the buy-in) but it never gained any traction. I would say that maybe around 2005-06 the structures were changed to the ones most players in recent times remember with the largest regular game being spread was $10-25 uncapped. From this time period till about the the early 2000teens multiple tables of these games were spread here around the clock until competition from rooms in neighboring states diluted the player pool, as well as interest in poker beginning to wane. If anyone else on the forum can add to this trip down memory lane, I would love to reminisce about the good old days of poker!

Hah! My post would've been very similar. I started around 2000 playing 1-3 (no ante!) and 1-5 stud. Eventually played the PLHE once in a while, which was $2/2 as stated (and where I got my first James Woods encounter). Then moved onto $1-2 NLHE. I don't recall exactly when my move to NL happened, but it was during that awful $40-100 buy-in period when they were still upstairs and using the paper signins/outs. I remember the loophole many did - sit with $40, immediately tip $1 to dealer or waitress, then reload for $100 so you start with $139 lol.

edit: oh yeah, between my stud and NL periods I also played a bit of that 5/10 LHE kill game, that one was fun!

Wow thanks guys, that's really interesting!

Do you remember how No Limit at Mohegan evolved?

I think Mohegan poker was closed during the NL explosion. It did not reopen until 2008ish. They had that scandal with the manager and others sometime before the boom and it was closed. Rumors of drugs and prostitution if I recall. I don't remember the timeline but I'm pretty positive they weren't open during the early NL years.

That's right, yes, I remember now!

Same here. Played 1-3 in 1998 and quickly moved up to 15/30 stud. Then eventually that game changed to 20/40 Haha

Didn’t switch to nlh till about 2007 or 2008 and played primarily 2/5

IIRC, the room closed in late 2003 or early 2004. Didn't reopen until 2008 or so when they expanded into the now defunct Wind Casino.

I remember that they did start off again with electronic tables only when they re-opened at first. They were located in the middle of the floor near the entrance of the Earth Casino. Management was shocked that offering 25 cents less rake than Foxwoods didn't bring players in.

That old room felt very Vegas esq. chip runners. Food tables. Just off the casino floor Just had that vibe.

Those electronic games were actually quite amazing sometimes. I know I'm in the minority, but I was really sad to see them go.

Nice reminiscence. I'll add/fix a few details. I moved to the area in late 1998, so don't know about cash games prior to that. When I arrived, they spread 1 tourney per day, stud or limit holdem 6 days per week, and NLH on Tuesday night. As I had moved here from San Diego county, and had played 2,5 pot limit holdem in Oceanside, I would try to get a PLH cash game going if I busted the Tue night tourney early. And sometimes I would try to get one going when I came in to play cash on a Fri night or on a Sat. Sometimes it would be NLH instead of PLH. As I recall, it was usually 2,5 blinds, and no cap on the buyin. I am unaware of any poker room anywhere that had a cap on the buyin for any cash game prior to the poker boom. As best I can tell, it was online sites that invented the idea of a cap, and it quickly spread to live rooms as NLH started to become more popular. I know I often sat in those cash games with as much as $5,000, even though nobody else usually bought in for more than $500. After the Main Event in 2004, I was traveling a lot, so playing less often at Foxwoods. Then in 2005 I moved to Raleigh, NC. I have rarely been back since then, so have no idea what the games were typically like after that.

Thanks for the memories!

Cheers, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

I heard they had cheating problems too. My cousin took me to my 1st live tourneys at Mohegan around 2001/02 just after my 21st bday for their Sunday 9am $60 Stud and LH tourneys back when they gave you a food comp with your buyin. I had such horrible experience I never returned to a casino poker room for almost 10 years. I got insulted at the tables multiple times. The one remember like it was yesterday - folding 77 next hand after the guy who insulted raise preflop and watch helplessly as the 7 hit the flop & then turn ofc. I saw the drug problem up close on my first trip. I was offered drugs in the near bathroom by guy with a black eye & fat lip. I said no thank you and moved to the other side of the bathroom as I thought he was going to offer something another than drugs. As I'm leaving the bathroom, he is walk fast away from me looking to see if I am going to report him, but he did not know my dad was a Sicilian and he raised me not rat on people even drug dealers.


Did this game every run after 2010? I only played 4/8 LH when I first started playing again at FW around 2010 and couple of the younger 4/8 buddy players always tried to get the 5/10 to run even on weekends, but it was a no go. I miss when they use to have seven 4/8 LH tables going along with two-three 4/8 O8 games with a half-kill running before the regulars changed it to 5-10 with a full kill.


The memories indeed! There was a period of time where I would come on to 2+2 to just read your posts for the hand histories from these Foxwoods cash games and MTTs. I would repost some of my favorite ones, but I think they were only on the old 2+2 website.