Thanks!

Wasn't it 900 tier credits/year for Gold previously?

Are they giving us a discount of 100 Tier Credits? That's the first good news I've heard in a while.

I think it was 800.

Damn Foxwoods. Can't even give me that. smh.

Platinum and Diamond are cheaper to get though. Used to be 4800 and 32000 for the year, now it's 2000 and 10000 for half year (16.7% and 37.5% less). But of course they made these cards less valuable so it's not exactly a move in our benefit. For example, the monthly choice benefit is no more. They still have it in some form as a choice benefit, but it's only available on certain dates now and is also play-based like most other comps, your card tier no longer has any bearing on it.

Gold was 900, so all 3 tiers require fewer tier credits to hit. I'm curious to see what the offers look like in November.

In regards to the new rake, one positive is that after the $2 on the flop they aren't taking the 3rd dollar until the pot is $30. 4th at $40 and 5th at $50.

Exactly!!! Anyone who thinks this is Foxwoods doing something good for us just doesn't understand how the comp system works.

It's easier to make each level because they are giving you less!!! Just in the monthly choice benefit being wiped out cost me close to $2,000 per year... Platinum status got me $150 per month slot play which I would use to play 9/6 jacks or better which had a payback of 99.54% so each month I would turn the slot play into either a little bit less or a little bit more then $150, that has now been taken away costing me close to $2,000 cold hard cash per year.

They now have changed the "Monthly Choice Benefit" program to "Choice Benefits" which according to the mailer will be based on your level of play just like how they now give away hotel rooms, show tickets, point swipes, etc etc. This sucks in many ways for poker players because there is no guaranteed monthly perk, they will just give you whatever they want whenever they want. This sucks for poker players because they would rather give the person who makes platinum playing slots or roulette (which are both more profitable for the casino) the good perks while giving the poker player who makes platinum by grinding out hours crap perks... now they dont have to give all platinums the same thing they can pick and choose who they wish to reward and who they wish to screw!!

Doing this has absolutely devalued all card levels!!! Combine this along with the raise in rake and BBJ elimination and it definitely means I will be taking the 2 hour drive to Foxwoods ALOT less than i do now.

The part I don't understand is you'd figure with Wynn and MGM Springfield coming soon that they'd be giving customers more perks to try and retain them instead of taking from them in every way that they can think of. It seems that common sense is not used to often by the higher ups making the decisions. If things are that tight that they need to squeeze their most loyal customers then why are they spending money on bungy towers and go kart tracks? At the rate they are going if they keep squeezing people there will be no customers left to ride their go karts and take their bungy jumps after Mass casinos are operational!!!

I flopped back to back royals 5 years ago at Foxwoods. Those 2 $50 gas cards were quite the hit. But yeah the dealer and floor couldn't believe it. I feel like I should have made a bigger deal out of it.

Are you REALLY complaining about the comps that poker players receive at the two Connecticut rooms? LOL. You can list any group of 100 poker rooms in the country for poker player comp rankings and every list will have Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun #1 and #2 with there being a large gap to 3. You get Free rooms at 4-star hotels, Free lounge access with Free food and alcohol, Free food coupons, Free points just for showing up and swiping a card that can be used for gas and shopping at Tanger Outlets, and Free points or slot play every month (maybe not enough for you because you're a entitled poker player to where nothing will satisfy you). Free, Free, Free but Free isn't good enough for you.

You are complaining that a business gives more comps to players who generate more revenue for their business. Before you hit another keystroke I want you to read that last sentence 5 times for it to sink in. I'm sure you and your fellow stud or 1/2 day nits have been bitching about the rake increase that takes Foxwoods from the lowest raked room in the country (literally) to only below the average.

What would you ever do if you lived near one of the countless poker rooms in this country that gave you $1 an hour and not much else? You are so spoiled playing in these CT rooms and you don't even have any idea how spoiled. Pathetic. Have a good day! Out.

^^^^ I'm from CT and a regular at these casinos and couldn't agree more. The comps are still amazing and the take is still low. Very spoiled.

I don’t play often and dont get comped much and I agree

The hope was they would get more aggressive, but that does not appear to be happening. When your customer base is shrinking, you can either compete for market share at thin margins, or give up market share at higher margins. If you can make double the profit per customer, you need half the customers to deliver the same bottomline. They are going for the latter.

foxwoods is generous as hell to poker players.
go to vegas, california upstate NY,Canada,
just try the Twin or Mohegan
we get treated much better than they all do
do the cuts sting? hell yes
I was a black card holder and miss that but the comps are still quite generous

I agree with Mr Atm.
I don’t get people who sympathize with these giant billion dollar companies.
Why should we give a damn about what other casinos are doing- this is what CT casinos have been doing, and now there changing MANY things for the worse. Giving less and taking more.
If you really sympathize with these casino, you really are a sucker.

This is not a positive. It is a negative for players.
Instead of waiting to take the extra dollar at about %10 when the pot reaches $50, they guarantee themselves the extra dollar now from almost every single hand played.

But we don’t !

Do you really think there are guys in suits sitting in a office trying to figure out how to make things FAIR for players?

There was a reason these comps and rake were set. Also where were the comps when mohegan’s room was closed (not to mention the quality of the dealing and floor people)
They’re trying to get as much money from players as possible, as is their prerogative.
But why do you feel that we should help them?

Foxwoods was never “literally The lowest raked room in the country“ There are some rooms as low as $3.
Of course you can point out higher raked rooms but obviously this is not the point.

Thank you for proving my point. You had to cherry pick to find 3 rooms that had the same $4 rake as Foxwoods while not providing free rooms, free food (on top of comp dollars), and free weekly and monthly points.

So now the 5+0 or 5+1 on HH days at Foxwoods is simply "among the lowest" in the country. Pity these poor souls.

I've played close to 30 rooms in the past 18 months throughout the country and nearly every one if $5+ with the only 4's being in CT and Vegas. I'm guessing there could be a couple small Vegas rooms at $3 so if there are I stand corrected......but my point still remains as they sure aren't giving you nearly as much as Foxwoods and Mohegan give. Overall comp package they are 1 and 2 without a close 3rd in sight. I'd welcome you providing any room that comes close however so ball is in your court if you think you can. Hint: You can't.

It’s not that management lacks common sense or is stupid. It’s that they understand the unfortunate truth that more than enough customers will remain, regardless of whatever they do to them, to make the numbers work in their favor.

In my experience, people do not like to change from what is familiar to them.
If enough people would inconvenience themselves out of principle by playing at another casino, It would be the only opposing force to make a difference.

I did not cherry pick these. They were literally the first thing that popped up when I did a search. Try it yourself, Google Las Vegas poker room rakes.

And what are you talking about saying “the same $4 rake “? It’s a $5 dollar rake that we’re talking about here isn’t it?
So where does that leave Foxwoods?

Also some of those rooms are two points an hour in comp and the rest are one, not .85¢

I don’t buy the argument that some are paying 6, so we should be happy with 5.
Again, the casinos are not trying to charge the most fair rake possible, they’re trying to charge the most rake possible.

I’m not gonna start researching and comparing comp packages. I think this is just complicating the argument. We’re talking about this casino here in this area, lowering all incentives across the board and then charging more, while service stays exactly the same. Remember, there’s a reason the rake was this amount and the comps were this structure in this area. At some point Foxwoods and Mohegan decided this was an appropriate amount for THIS area, not California, not Australia, but this area. And they decided this with making profits in mind and their only agenda.

I’d like to pity those poor souls while not becoming the ones to be pitied

You tell us to “pity these poor souls” for their high rake, while at the same time telling us to be OK with our rake heading in the same direction.

Can someone post the letter? This new policy in writing isn't on their website yet, but I do see that I have now until 3/31/18 to keep my gold card....Which I just got too so this ticks me off a bit! I haven't received the letter yet.

Thanks!