Well so much for that idea. Got 10 signatures within the first 2 minutes if being in the room and then was pulled away by security. Was told to stop

seems fair considering previous petition. that sucks

Yeah no ****. One side can do it but the other can't? Bull****. Plus how else are they going to get a proper gauge of what the player base wants?

Right on, well said.

Absolute travesty that one side of an issue can be heard, the whole process that was planned to be implemented last Sunday stopped in its tracks....and no rebuttal allowed. (Why are they afraid?)

As a side note....are they really comping 5-10 PLO at the same rate as 1-2 NL.....whoever runs that room is a genius. As a black card holder, this is becoming a joke.

5 - 10 PLO M (1).........M!!!
5 - 10 No Limit H (2)
1 - 2 No Limit M (16)
2 - 5 No Limit M (7)

can i get some estimates for the $300 tourney sat....im thinking 400-550 players, am i way off? its gonna be a nice one to ship

I'm curious too. Debating the 300 and 150 at Mohegan

What we have here is a case a freerider...a person who obtains something without effort or cost. The 2/5 players are getting a discounted price at the BBJ. Of course, it would be more expensive to chase BBJ boards at 2/5, and the jackpot will get hit less at 2/5 than any other table SO I have no problem with it. Let's break this down:

2/5 advantages:

-qualify for the BBJ while only contributing to it less than the average BBJ table
-increase player base as more 1/2 players will take the step up to 2/5 b/c of the BBJ

2/5 disadvantages:

-they have to take additional rake out for the BBJ

1/2 advantages:

-less more-skilled 2/5 players will drop to 1/2 when the BBJ gets high
-the jackpot will rise quicker with the addition of 2/5 BBJ tables

1/2 disadvantages:

-The chance of hitting the jackpot decreases

The chances of an individual 1/2 table hitting the jackpot doesn't decrease, the odds within the cards stays the same.

An individual 1/2 table is contributing more to it than a 2/5 so from mathematical standpoint the EV for each hand is less for a 1/2 table.

The fact that 2/5 now has a bbj changes nothing at 1/2 from an EV view of a single table.

The argument can be made that the jackpot is rougher on their wallets than a 2/5 (by comparison).

You can also say the jackpot will now be hit more frequently making them smaller.

Edit: meant ev per hand not per dollar

2/5 BBJ update from Terry:

1st- Petitions are banned completely by the Pequot tribe, or whatever tribe runs Foxwoods. No petition will be recognized and all people who organize/write petitions will be asked by tribe security to cease and/or asked to leave.

2nd- Terry has post poned the BBJ expanding to 2/5 because of a rash of complaints from regulars. She is not sure how long it will be postponed for.

3rd- She is currently trying to organize a survey (I am not sure if its going to be to 2/5 players exclusively) that will determine the future of BBJ at 2/5. She did not elaborate at all about this survey.

i was in the same predicament... i was thinking the $300 would draw at least 150+ esp with the series running, but a friend who might travel w/me rather go for the guarantee

Yea my friend is convincing me to go to Mohegan

i personally like mohegans room better then fox, but the cash game action is wayyyy better in fox

I only go to Mohegan if they have a guaranteed tourney cause the action is at Foxwoods

Any possibility of overlay @ Mohegan? I am a fan of free $.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/199/poker-venues/mohegan-sun-uncasville-ct-434507/index420.html


You might have better luck over there with this question. Those people know more about the pulse of that poker room than we do. I haven't played MS in almost 3 years but I enjoy eating there.

I must be missing something behind the 2-5 bbj debate.

1/2 players are more likely to call pre-flop raises, and 3 bets, with middle pairs, and 3 gapped suited. not so much @ 2/5
2/4 limit will call with any possible jackpot hand for any number of raises.

So lets say your dealt 1 BBJ hand every 2 years. What ever that hand maybe; it could be 3-7 suited beating quads; or your pocket nines beating pocket eights.

a 2/5 player is likely to throw away a BBJ hand pre-flop, about 33% of the time.
a 1/2 player maybe 10% of the time. and 2/4 zero percent. just a guess.

As a 1/2 player, hell yeah, let the 2/5 players contribute, let the 5/10 contribute, take it away from all limit holdem.

I vote for getting rid of the BBJ altogether, unless casino funded

I am indifferent on the whole bbj debate (am I the only one?)

I think both sides have advantages and disadvantages and anyone that is adament on one side or the other is being a little obtuse.

I do, however, think it is kinda ridiculous that some regulars have more pull than the overall collective player pool. Put it up to a vote and not up to a very small group of grumpy (I know of at least one) regulars.

We had a total of 230 players in today's $3,500 No-Limit Hold 'em event at the Foxwoods World Poker Finals.

The final 24 spots will finish in the money.

You can follow the live updates at FoxwoodsPoker.com and the live stream at FoxwoodsLive.com.

Final payouts are as follows:

1st - $184,058
2nd - $113,748
3rd - $82,825
4th - $61,181
5th - $46,015
6th - $35,118
7th - $27,167
8th - $21,350
9th - $17,150
10th-12th - $13,767
13th-15th - $11,337
16th-18th - $9,423
19th-21st - $7,951
22nd-24th - $6,773

It'll never happen. The casino doesnt make enough of its revenue from poker to fund a jackpot with their own money. And they'll never get rid of it all together because it brings people in the doors.

How long can I expect the HSNL games to be running? Is it mostly Borgata faces who are still up in the area? PM if you don't want to discuss here, thanks.

I just got home from the weekend, my buddy plays HSNL and we're going back Tuesday it was that good.

Fantastic job this entire series man, I saw you walking through the upstairs area yesterday evening and wanted to say something but didn't want to interrupt your conversation.

Thanks man, I really appreciate that. Feel free to interrupt me anytime, I rarely talk about anything important....lol

A dealer told us that a guy tried to buy into the 10/25 NL game for $5000, with twenty dollar bills.

He was asked to go to the cage.

Who walks around with $5k in twenties?