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07-21-2009 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
are you saying i suck?

no in all seriousness, you make a good point, but I just hate that friggin game everything is so straight up and boring, but my records indicate over the past year that out of 10 sessions, I only showed a profit in it 5 out of 10 times, although 4 of those 5 times I made over 500....although felted twice....and i'm prolly not playing my best game cause I get so impatient! I'll take your advice into consideration though thanks...

GP
You make your profit in that game by stealing and taking orphan pots. The 'ol semi bluff turn c-raise can actually work. Does [name removed] still play that game too?

Last edited by Rapini; 07-22-2009 at 10:08 AM.
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07-21-2009 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
Someone discuss the 10/20 game and the 20/40 game with me.

It seems like the 10/20 has dried up into a rock garden of regulars including [names removed].....what's up with it? Is it even profitable anymore?

GP
I appreciate how no one mentions [name removed] in these posts.

Last edited by Rapini; 07-22-2009 at 10:08 AM.
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07-21-2009 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
Someone discuss the 10/20 game and the 20/40 game with me.

It seems like the 10/20 has dried up into a rock garden of regulars including [names removed].....what's up with it? Is it even profitable anymore?

20/40 seems much more juicy but it seems like you need 3 times the roll to sit in that game?

Any thoughts? Also, what are the best times nowadays to play either of these games?

GP
I haven't seen [name removed] playing 10/20 in a while. I get a kick out of his temper tantrums.

As far as the best times to play these games? I'd say the afternoons. They rarely get them going in the mornings. Maybe because its summer. Also some 10/20 regs have been trying to get a regular 10/20 HORSE going. The last two times I've been down they were able to get it off.

Last edited by Rapini; 07-22-2009 at 10:09 AM.
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07-22-2009 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by drexah
what's a rack for 20/40 lhe? never really played limit, especially live, so just curious.
They use $5 chips for the 20/40 lhe game, so a rack would be $500
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07-22-2009 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WMB
You make your profit in that game by stealing and taking orphan pots. The 'ol semi bluff turn c-raise can actually work. Does [name removed] still play that game too?
Or you can beat it by straightforward tight/aggressive hand selection prreflop, combined with correcly playing draws of all types on the flop. Turn play should be based more on which opponents are left, which one of you needs a cheap showdown more badly, and whether the other guy has come to the same conclusion or not.

I've never had a losing month at 20-40 (despite an occasional 2000+ losing day) and rarely at 10-20 (and those were due either to very few days played and/or one or two unsuccessful fish-chasing sessions that got out of hand)

If you aren't up at least $6000 in your last 200 hours of 10-20, I wouldn't advise playing 20-40 more than occasionally as an experiment.

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07-22-2009 , 06:54 AM
ive had more terrible $100 meals dining alone at cedar steakhouse then i care to remember. awful steakhouse, the meat sucks.
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07-22-2009 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spookygook
ive had more terrible $100 meals dining alone at cedar steakhouse then i care to remember. awful steakhouse, the meat sucks.
Agree, got the Steak Sandwich not too long ago and wasn't happy. If you're going to have a steak it should be a no brainer David Burke's PRIME. Craftsteak is overpriced and their sides are junk.
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07-22-2009 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Stelios
I haven't seen [name removed] playing 10/20 in a while. I get a kick out of his temper tantrums.

As far as the best times to play these games? I'd say the afternoons. They rarely get them going in the mornings. Maybe because its summer. Also some 10/20 regs have been trying to get a regular 10/20 HORSE going. The last two times I've been down they were able to get it off.
I hear nameremoved is broke, I'd be willing to bet that you won't see him at all by September. Of course I predicted the game won't be going regularly in 2010. Maybe they will merge it with the 5/10 kill to form an 8/16 or something.
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07-22-2009 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FOXWOODSnuts29
Craftsteak is overpriced and their sides are junk.
Woah, you're ordering the wrong sides or something.

Also, how's Burke in a Box? I can't bring myself to actually go in because the images the name puts in my head make me not want to eat.
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07-22-2009 , 12:52 PM
Lol not bad I got the cheesebugrger sliders and asiago cheese fries from there last month and it was delicious. Definetely pop in there for some Burke in the Box.
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07-22-2009 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
I hear nameremoved is broke, I'd be willing to bet that you won't see him at all by September. Of course I predicted the game won't be going regularly in 2010. Maybe they will merge it with the 5/10 kill to form an 8/16 or something.
I've long thought they should switch to 8/16, 15/30, 30/60. But now that 40/80 goes all the time, that isn't likely.

So now I'm leaning toward 3/6, 6/12, 10/20 etc.

8/16 also doesn't make sense from a comp standpoint, with the breakpoint for midlimit comps starting at 10/20. For the same reason, the 5/10 kill, as much as I like it, doesn't make sense. You often end up playing essentially 10/20 at it, for lowlimit comps, albeit against weak enough players that you're rarely considering comps in the decision to play it.
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07-22-2009 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
I hear nameremoved is broke, I'd be willing to bet that you won't see him at all by September. Of course I predicted the game won't be going regularly in 2010. Maybe they will merge it with the 5/10 kill to form an 8/16 or something.
I hope I am "nameremoved", seems like a pretty popular guy.

DMW- There are still 4 months+ for your prediction to come true, don't give up hope yet. Also what's up with the Sun Devil...Grad school?

I'll be down tom + fri playing 10/20 or 20/40 depnding upon what is going and who is playing what.
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07-22-2009 , 06:01 PM
as a regular in the limit games im glad to see they are being analyzed, and yes, i do agree they need to swith some things up...the 20/40 can stay, there are plenty of players to fill those games, but they 5/10 kill and 10/20 need to be merged, either into 8/16 or just get rid of the 5/10 kill, wich has a tough time filling and staying open. i can remember a friday night the game broke at like 10...also, i want to use 2p2 as a sounding board to invite people to PLAY LIMIT AT MOHEGAN, i would love to make that my spot but theres never any limit games going...lets get some 5/10, or 6/12, or 9/18 even going over there
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07-22-2009 , 06:19 PM
I have played 9/18 with 3$ chips at Wynn and Mohegan and it was fun, but tricky to cash out and buy chips because we weren't used to it.

Bingo on the grad school. Do you know what Ned Flanders says about that school?

the real key is how do you get more people to play limit. The answer is, get a state law passed outlawing nolimit. Other than that I'd say ditch the yellow chips (which aren't even yellow anymore) and make it 3/6 full kill, 6/12, 9/18, 20/40.
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07-23-2009 , 11:38 AM
guys the sunday survivor series, how many runners for the 120 and 340.....im headed to the woods on sunday.

also, did y'all notice that the mega stack challenge is featuring guaranteed cash. Obviuosly they are hurting from the sun and trying to pick it up.

Will there be an overlay? you think there will be a big turn out? Im thinking of playing the 340 or 560 and of course trying to win a seat in the 2K

GP
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07-23-2009 , 12:05 PM
What's the tournament turnout's been like!?! I used to play tournaments all the time, but work has restricted me from playing. Is the new schedule helping get players back from Mohegan!?!?
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07-23-2009 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
guys the sunday survivor series, how many runners for the 120 and 340.....im headed to the woods on sunday.

also, did y'all notice that the mega stack challenge is featuring guaranteed cash. Obviuosly they are hurting from the sun and trying to pick it up.

Will there be an overlay? you think there will be a big turn out? Im thinking of playing the 340 or 560 and of course trying to win a seat in the 2K

GP
The 6pm Sunday 120 Survivor (recently 150 due to 25 bounty) is almost always 100 give or take 10 players.
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07-23-2009 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
I have played 9/18 with 3$ chips at Wynn and Mohegan and it was fun, but tricky to cash out and buy chips because we weren't used to it.

Bingo on the grad school. Do you know what Ned Flanders says about that school?

the real key is how do you get more people to play limit. The answer is, get a state law passed outlawing nolimit. Other than that I'd say ditch the yellow chips (which aren't even yellow anymore) and make it 3/6 full kill, 6/12, 9/18, 20/40.
They would have to rate the 9/18 as mid limit or nobody would play it with 2/3 the comps they got for 10/20
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07-25-2009 , 12:49 PM
Just walked in from Foxwoods.... Yesterday there was two 10/20's all day but the 5/10 broke around 3pm and did not start up again til 1030ish and ran til at least 330 ? The 10/20 must move broke around 8 and the main game was short when I left....

I like most of you would hope we can agree that something needs to be done these two games can not compete against each other !
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07-25-2009 , 05:03 PM
Which one of you was the group of guys talking/fantasizing about David Sklansky at the cage at 3:10ish today. Funny conversation, thanks
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07-25-2009 , 07:20 PM
LOL...What are mon/tuesday tournies like ? runners/prize/length ?
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07-26-2009 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fiveman103
Just walked in from Foxwoods.... Yesterday there was two 10/20's all day but the 5/10 broke around 3pm and did not start up again til 1030ish and ran til at least 330 ? The 10/20 must move broke around 8 and the main game was short when I left....

I like most of you would hope we can agree that something needs to be done these two games can not compete against each other !
i agree completely!!!! i play both of these games and agree that they are getting worse and worse...i suggested a "pink game" with the 2.50 pink chips, make it 7.50/15....or an 8/16 with the $2 chips. i dont know why these people are so stuck in their ways and games...the guys who play these games for the most part are just so set in their ways and stakes that these are the only games they play...EVER! i think the 5/10 kill game will be dead in about a year...the woods needs to consult with the players and redo their limit hold 'em stakes....leave suggestions in the box and talk to the floor guys about it, the more they hear it they more they'll agree to change things up
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07-26-2009 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxxy Woods
i agree completely!!!! i play both of these games and agree that they are getting worse and worse...i suggested a "pink game" with the 2.50 pink chips, make it 7.50/15....or an 8/16 with the $2 chips. i dont know why these people are so stuck in their ways and games...the guys who play these games for the most part are just so set in their ways and stakes that these are the only games they play...EVER! i think the 5/10 kill game will be dead in about a year...the woods needs to consult with the players and redo their limit hold 'em stakes....leave suggestions in the box and talk to the floor guys about it, the more they hear it they more they'll agree to change things up
And peer into the box and see if my suggestions from 2006 are still there.
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07-27-2009 , 04:46 PM
I'd like to ask a dumb newbie micro question.

I'd like to start playing the 1-3 Stud, just to get to know the game and such. I never played a spread limit game before. As there are no play money tables on which to practice...

Has anyone played this at Foxwoods? How does the betting work, exactly? Is it that you can bet anything between 1-3 on any street, including 3rd? If you bet $3 and someone wants to raise, they still have to raise by $3, correct? What's a normal buy-in for this limit?

Thanks.
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07-27-2009 , 04:58 PM
Yes, you can bet any amount $1-$3 on any street. Don't remember what the bring in and antes are. I typically buy into stud games for 25BB (so it would be $75 in 1-3). You should really start with 1-5 though, the rake is killer in 1-3 and you don't risk much more in 1-5. In 1-5, the ante is $0.50 and the bring-in I believe is $1.
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