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09-29-2009 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
One thing weird about FW is you can never sue them.

Ever.

For anything.

Ever.





Edit: See.

Its not just FW, its pretty much every Indian casino. You can thank the US government for that.
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09-29-2009 , 06:01 PM
You can sue them. Just has to be in Tribal Court. Here.
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09-29-2009 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stueycal
so is it official that there taking $1 off of the 1/2 and 4/8 pots now for the bbj? and has it been changed to Quad 8's or better.

Yes, I was at FW on Sunday and there was a sign up. My guess is, with Quad 8's or better as the qualifier, they're trying to make a run for biggest live bbj ever.
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09-29-2009 , 07:27 PM
Lol there was some older nitty reg next to me on Friday talking about how great the new BBJ is b/c it's like "playing the lottery every single time you have 88 or better!"...
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09-29-2009 , 10:51 PM
sorry but what do you mean by signup?
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09-29-2009 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stueycal
sorry but what do you mean by signup?
He means there is a sign present, displaying the details of the new BBJ.
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09-29-2009 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stueycal
sorry but what do you mean by signup?

Not "signup," "sign up." As in, they put a sign up. They posted a sign. It was right by the "signup" table where you get placed on a list, that described the new bbjackpot, and how it woudl be taking affect as of october 1 (or maybe it was october 2, can't remember).
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09-29-2009 , 11:05 PM
ooo wow, totally misread you, i see now. Do you know which games besides 1/2 and 4/8 there running it with
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09-29-2009 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stueycal
ooo wow, totally misread you, i see now. Do you know which games besides 1/2 and 4/8 there running it with
Every LHE 10/20 and below, and NLHE 1/2.
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09-29-2009 , 11:22 PM
I'm surprised by the 10/20 being included.
Unless I'm mistaken, usually in the rooms I've
played with a JP, that game wasn't included. I
could be wrong, but I think having the JP on
that game could be the last nail in the coffin
for the FW 10/20 game.
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09-29-2009 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by o0ch
Lol there was some older nitty reg next to me on Friday talking about how great the new BBJ is b/c it's like "playing the lottery every single time you have 88 or better!"...
pretty much explains it..Why they think this will hit makes no sense ? it will take the bbjp to prob over 200k
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09-30-2009 , 12:15 AM
sounds lame esp for low stakes grinders like myself, not sure if im into them taking another $1 plus rake/toke...i would say ill just play at mohegan but im pretty sure there doing the same thing for the HHJP, motherf#ucker...
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09-30-2009 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DMBFan4Ever
pretty much explains it..Why they think this will hit makes no sense ? it will take the bbjp to prob over 200k
Hopefully one of us hit it lol

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Originally Posted by stueycal
sounds lame esp for low stakes grinders like myself, not sure if im into them taking another $1 plus rake/toke...i would say ill just play at mohegan but im pretty sure there doing the same thing for the HHJP, motherf#ucker...
move up to where they don't steal your moniez for BBJ's...
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09-30-2009 , 02:19 AM
In regards to limit, this just applies for Hold'em, right? This wouldn't include O8 or Stud?
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09-30-2009 , 04:03 AM
Used to play at Foxwoods a bit when I lived in New England several years ago. Now I live in New Orleans and play at Harrah's here, which has a similar BBJ as the one they just put in at Foxwoods. (I think ours is any quads losing, but I'm not actually positive.)

Anyway, I found it annoying at first, but I think it's actually a pretty good investment. First, the money does go back to the players, so you're basically being forced to enter a lottery. Not something I want, but at least it is money I theoretically can get back as opposed to rake. Much more importantly, it is a big attraction for awful players. They want to hit a big score and a BBJ with a hard qualifier to hit will generally have large jackpots possible. I think you'll be amazed at how many terrible players will play poker because of it and how many other bad players who play on a semi-frequent basis will play more sessions and/or longer sessions because of the jackpot.

The main thing you all should be fighting for is to make sure the jackpot amount is posted somewhere that is visible at all tables and that it is kept updated regularly. It's going to make your games even softer than they currently are ...
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09-30-2009 , 08:20 AM
Just curious but no one has posted this about the BBJ ....

- No one knows when the "updated" amount will be ? Noon ? Midnight ? I was over there on Tuesday and saw NO fliers on the new Jackpot

- How often will they collect the money ? You know those boxes are going to be FULL on the 2-4's and 1-2's

I have to put my 2cents worth on this....

I have to be sadden the the BBJ won't have Stud or Omaha. Being a player of both, this just allows me just to play 2-4 with the fishes.
Their current BBJ (til midnight tonight) has Stud and Omaha involved. Why not now ?? I think this is a bad move on their part.
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09-30-2009 , 09:35 AM
I dont think it would be awfull to include pretty much everything below 10/20 Stud, LHE and OE, 1/2 and 2/5 NLH. prob too much of a killer at 1-3 and 1-5 stud same fot 2/4 LHE though, I am not too familar with that game but I would guess pots get large (in terms of # of bets anyway)

I mean as a 1/2 -2/5 grinder the games are so soft the the extra rake (which BTW depending on your style of play you arent going to be contributing a TON to it in NL games anyway).

The extra 1-1.5 dollar you are lossing from your hourly (this is a pretty rough estimation but I play pretty TAG so others may have other opinions) should more than be made up for by the extra dead money in play by bad players when the jackpot gets high, this should be even more pronounced in a game like 2/5 cause the rake is prop less in relation to the pot size and bringing extra dead money into the game has a huge potienal on your bottom line. though I guess it is debatable if players would play 2/5 to get a chance at the BBJP.
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09-30-2009 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Casinoplr
Just curious but no one has posted this about the BBJ ....

- No one knows when the "updated" amount will be ? Noon ? Midnight ? I was over there on Tuesday and saw NO fliers on the new Jackpot

- How often will they collect the money ? You know those boxes are going to be FULL on the 2-4's and 1-2's

I have to put my 2cents worth on this....

I have to be sadden the the BBJ won't have Stud or Omaha. Being a player of both, this just allows me just to play 2-4 with the fishes.
Their current BBJ (til midnight tonight) has Stud and Omaha involved. Why not now ?? I think this is a bad move on their part.
I was told by a dealer that the 1$ bbj drop will go into the same drop as the rake, and that each time 1$ is taken for the BBJ the dealer writes something down (or something, wasn't really paying attention), then at the end of the week some poor sap has to tally all the money up and take it out of the rake.
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09-30-2009 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetjazz
Anyway, I found it annoying at first, but I think it's actually a pretty good investment. First, the money does go back to the players, so you're basically being forced to enter a lottery.
In most of the BBJ's that I have heard of, something like 10-20% goes towards maintenance of the BBJ. Advertising, overhead, etc. In other words its another way of generating income/business for the casino.

Another 20% goes towards starting the next BBJ in many places (and I think FW as well). This is like the "rock" in LHE games that you "win" but keeps getting put back into play.

I don't mind BBJ's after all is said and done because IMO it brings truly awful players into the games and they will play even worse than usual (any two cards that can turn into a bad beat hand).
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09-30-2009 , 09:52 PM
did they say if FW will rake the jackpot for "maitenance"?
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09-30-2009 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
did they say if FW will rake the jackpot for "maitenance"?
I have heard that FW will keep 5% as "administration fee"....
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09-30-2009 , 10:16 PM
TR from Saturday.

Went to foxwoods on saturday from about 12-6. I played 1/2 for the first four hours and then a 120 SNG. I chopped the sng for 280 in profit. It was pretty standard and the blinds were actually quite decent, allowing for plenty of play. 1/2 was standard for woods not changing at all from the year before when I went down there. A kid raised from UTG to 15 then when it got folded around he shook his head and said don't worry I had it, flashed KJ suited. He was completely serious that he thought this was a good raise. In a 9 way 15 preraise hand were i was the BB i had 22. Flop was k 6 2 rainbow. MP bets 50, button raises to 100, I call. MP calls. turn 3. MP bets out 200. button folds. I push for 100 more. He snap calls, I table 22. He says "i need a 9" and tables K9. I am still confused as to what was going on. I later had AA and some woman got it in for 220 with 88. Pretty much is all I am saying is foxwoods is still alive. I may have hit some cards but I made 920 in about 6 hours so keep the dream alive.

Henne
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10-01-2009 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ88
I have heard that FW will keep 5% as "administration fee"....
If that is true then FW just raised the rake by 5% of 1$.
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10-01-2009 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
If that is true then FW just raised the rake by 5% of 1$.
Also known as five cents.
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10-02-2009 , 04:03 PM
As for everyone saying that the BBJ will bring newer/less experienced players to the LHE games, you were right. I was down for a few hours last night, and I heard from 2 separate stud players that were upset that the BBJ did not include their games and are now going to play 4/8 LHE.
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