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Old 12-21-2010, 12:42 PM   #5126
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So how is the action? How are the players? What buy-in would you suggest given that there is a full-kill?

And can anyone brief me on the kill again? A pot is won over $100 and the next hand is played $10-20? Blinds bumped up as well?

I imagine its quite easy to get a $100 pot at 5-10, so the game is probly more like a $10-20 huh?

I'm really interested in the quality of play though if anyone can speak on that.
No comment on play quality, since I haven't play it in years. When a $100 or more pot is scooped, the next pot is a kill pot. The blinds are still $2/5, but the winner posts a $10 blind as well, and the hand plays out like a $10/20 table. This continues until either 1) a hand is won with a pot < $100, or 2) a pot is chopped. Once a kill occurs, yes it can last for quite a while. I'd say it plays like a $10/20 at least 50% of the time.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:52 PM   #5127
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Re: The Foxwoods Poker Thread

i see all these posts about 2-7, isnt that against east coast gaming commisions still?
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:55 PM   #5128
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i see all these posts about 2-7, isnt that against east coast gaming commisions still?
Really?
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:25 PM   #5129
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i see all these posts about 2-7, isnt that against east coast gaming commisions still?
Last I heard Foxwoods will not spread any draw poker games in the poker room.


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Try 5-10 HORSE at Foxwoods it's been running on occasion
I guess I'm one of those people that believe that the more actual chips that are on the table and/or in the pots, the better the game plays. That is my only reason for saying 6/12 over 5/10 (yellow chips vs red chips). I would rather have 10 stacks of yellow than 2 stacks of red and 8 green chips.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:27 PM   #5130
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i see all these posts about 2-7, isnt that against east coast gaming commisions still?
Don't think so, the dealers just aren't trained to deal it. That's why management won't run the games. They could train a good dealer on the fly to deal the game, but then you need a floor who knows how the game is played and dealt.

I'm not sure I have ever seen a 2-7 game going at Foxwoods, though I have seen it on the board with one name on it. I have played draw at Foxwoods so I know that they are allowed to play draw games. Mohegan dealers can deal Badugi, but were not trained to deal 2-7 even though it isn't technically different then Badugi.

I may be wrong about this, but I believe gaming commissions are only involved in the physical part of a casino game, how it is set up, how it is raked, and game protection procedures. Casino management decides which games they would like to run, then they send the gaming commission the procedures of how the game will be operated. Casino surveillance then gets the procedures as to how the specific game itself will run. So in order to have a game you have to tell the gaming commission you are going to run it, then tell surveillance how the game is played, then have a floor know how to watch the game and make sure the dealer is doing it correctly, and last a dealer who knows how the game is played.

So it's not that the casino doesn't want to run a game for you, it's just that they aren't prepared to run a game that has very little day to day interest. So they usually just say "gaming commission won't allow it" to pass the blame and not look bad.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:46 PM   #5131
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No comment on play quality, since I haven't play it in years. When a $100 or more pot is scooped, the next pot is a kill pot. The blinds are still $2/5, but the winner posts a $10 blind as well, and the hand plays out like a $10/20 table. This continues until either 1) a hand is won with a pot < $100, or 2) a pot is chopped. Once a kill occurs, yes it can last for quite a while. I'd say it plays like a $10/20 at least 50% of the time.
I don't have a good sample size as I typically play 10-20 but while on the list waiting for 10-20 a couple weekends ago, I played 5-10 for about an hour without seeing a single kill pot. It was a limp and check fest. May have just been an unusually nitty crew though.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:51 PM   #5132
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Re: The Foxwoods Poker Thread

I shouldn't have made the 50% remark, as that was based on my outdated experiences.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:27 PM   #5133
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Don't think so, the dealers just aren't trained to deal it. That's why management won't run the games. They could train a good dealer on the fly to deal the game, but then you need a floor who knows how the game is played and dealt.

I'm not sure I have ever seen a 2-7 game going at Foxwoods, though I have seen it on the board with one name on it. I have played draw at Foxwoods so I know that they are allowed to play draw games. Mohegan dealers can deal Badugi, but were not trained to deal 2-7 even though it isn't technically different then Badugi.

I may be wrong about this, but I believe gaming commissions are only involved in the physical part of a casino game, how it is set up, how it is raked, and game protection procedures. Casino management decides which games they would like to run, then they send the gaming commission the procedures of how the game will be operated. Casino surveillance then gets the procedures as to how the specific game itself will run. So in order to have a game you have to tell the gaming commission you are going to run it, then tell surveillance how the game is played, then have a floor know how to watch the game and make sure the dealer is doing it correctly, and last a dealer who knows how the game is played.

So it's not that the casino doesn't want to run a game for you, it's just that they aren't prepared to run a game that has very little day to day interest. So they usually just say "gaming commission won't allow it" to pass the blame and not look bad.

i always thought draw games are agianst gaming commision in ac and foxwoods, and razz is against gaming commision in AC, thats why AC only has HOSE, unless the rules changed in the last few years, i dont really play foxwoods anymore to be honest
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:31 PM   #5134
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i always thought draw games are agianst gaming commision in ac and foxwoods, and razz is against gaming commision in AC, thats why AC only has HOSE, unless the rules changed in the last few years, i dont really play foxwoods anymore to be honest
Razz is testing now in NJ and maybe approved in the spring.

There is a mixed game which will have Razz, Badugi and 2-7 triple draw in early January at Delaware Park running two days with a thread. Search Delaware Park.
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:43 PM   #5135
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WILL LAUGH VERY HARD when you show this to manager and they look at you funny and say GTFO and never come back.

Starting a new game isn't as easy as you think
It may not be able to be spread at Foxwoods and it may not be exactly what the original poster asked for, but this is the game that will be played at Delaware Park.

1.00 ante stud rounds

Friday January 7 at 5 to 7 PM start.

8 Game- 8 player max tables and eight hands of each game per rotation
Limit 4/8 Hold ‘em
Pot Limit Omaha Hi- 1/2, $300 max loss per hand
Limit 4/8 Stud Hi/Lo
Limit 4/8 2-7 Triple Draw (UTG and UTG plus one will not be dealt into this game)
Limit 4/8 Stud Hi
No Limit Hold ‘em- 1/2, $300.00 max loss per hand
Limit 4/8 Omaha Hi/Lo
Limit 4/8 Badugi

Then on Saturday January 8 at 3 to 5 PM start.

9 Game- 8 player max tables and eight hands of each game per rotation

Limit 4/8 Hold ‘em
Limit 4/8 Stud Hi/Lo
Pot Limit Omaha Hi, 1/2, $300.00 max loss per hand
Limit 4/8 2-7 Triple Draw (UTG and UTG plus one will not be dealt into this game)
Limit 4/8 Razz
No Limit Hold ‘em 1/2, $300.00 Max loss per hand
Limit 4/8 Omaha Hi/Lo
Limit 4/8 Stud Hi
Limit 4/8 Badugi
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:38 PM   #5136
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Re: The Foxwoods Poker Thread

I watched a razz game within a mixed game last winter it was a 10/20 at foxwoods.

So apparently they can play.
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:58 PM   #5137
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I watched a razz game within a mixed game last winter it was a 10/20 at foxwoods.

So apparently they can play.
foxwoods u always could play razz, AC is the place where you had to play HOSE instead of HORSE because of gaming commision
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:34 PM   #5138
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Re: The Foxwoods Poker Thread

anyone have any idea when they review letters of people who want to be reinstated?
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:11 AM   #5139
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Whose down for road trip with me to Delaware Park? I need to play these mixed games their gunna be running
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:23 AM   #5140
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Beata ---every 6 months so i hear
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:44 PM   #5141
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Pot Limit Omaha Hi- 1/2, $300 max loss per hand
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:03 PM   #5142
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I've found putting together a mixed game roster very difficult. Lower LHE players who are used to 4/8, 5/10 or 6/12 are not crazy about risking everything on a single hand. I had originally though of capping the betting in PLO/NL at 30 bb per street, but then it's not PLO or nl. I guess it's still not, but the idea is to get guys who play PLO and nl to try limit and vise versa. Also, to see if we can get Badugi and low ball triple draw spread regularly. It's not an easy thing to do at any room, including Foxwoods. I doubt there's a room outside of home games or Vegas where you can find a 2-7 TD or Badugi game. Both great fun to play.

I've played at Foxwoods a dozen times or so and have seen stud games, lots of LHE and NLH and some PLO. But, I've never seen 2-7 TD, Badugi or Stud 08.That doesn't mean it's not spread there, but I've never seen those games.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:33 PM   #5143
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next it will be a few slot machines, then more and more. I kinda agree
but it also is a way for casino to make more money from people waiting for games. But then they will be called and will say HOLD ON have to play this hand. Then this will delay getting players to tables even longer
Adding some table games and slot machines down there might also attract more casual players to the poker table.
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:04 AM   #5144
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Adding some table games and slot machines down there might also attract more casual players to the poker table.

also takes a lot of the casual players money out of the poker pool

the casino isn't looking to entertain those waiting trust me ...
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also takes a lot of the casual players money out of the poker pool

the casino isn't looking to entertain those waiting trust me ...
How do you figure? The casual players know table games and slots are available, if they wanted to play those they would. But if the table games/slots attract new people to the poker room and they end up at the tables that's a good thing.
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:45 AM   #5146
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How is the $200 deepstack bounty tourney? I may play it there tomorrow. Is that better or the 10k guarantee at MS better for Weds tourneys?
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:22 AM   #5147
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How do you figure? The casual players know table games and slots are available, if they wanted to play those they would. But if the table games/slots attract new people to the poker room and they end up at the tables that's a good thing.
TWO table games are not going to attract anyone that wants to play them from upstairs where they have hundreds of them. Those tables will get 99% of their use from poker players waiting for a table or someone walking out the door after a good cash out.
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:49 AM   #5148
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TWO table games are not going to attract anyone that wants to play them from upstairs where they have hundreds of them. Those tables will get 99% of their use from poker players waiting for a table or someone walking out the door after a good cash out.
or looking to get unstuck in one shot

wish they had blackjack down there, save me a trip upstairs
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:16 AM   #5149
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TWO table games are not going to attract anyone that wants to play them from upstairs where they have hundreds of them. Those tables will get 99% of their use from poker players waiting for a table or someone walking out the door after a good cash out.
Exactly. The most common outcome is going to be someone going busto while they wait, and now we don't have them coming to the poker table at all.
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TWO table games are not going to attract anyone that wants to play them from upstairs where they have hundreds of them. Those tables will get 99% of their use from poker players waiting for a table or someone walking out the door after a good cash out.
Obviously. I was referring to the comment somebody made about possibly adding more tables and some slots
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