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Old 03-21-2010, 02:06 PM   #2626
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Stop acting like foxwoods is not at fault.

Every bar in america cards for your entrance if liquor is on site. Not to mention most have you show id when you request a drink with a tender. Foxwoods, has no one carding at doors, no one carding for FREEEEE drinks, etc. They dont card you to gamble and lose your money, they dont card for you to be on premise underage, THEY ONLY CARD WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY OUT LARGE SUMS OF MONEY TO YOU.

How is that a correct way to run a business with a liquor license, DONT ALL BARS WISH THEY DIDNT HAVE TO CARD AND LET ANYONE IN TO DRINK, sales would be astronomical, no?

Yes, she obv knew she was breaking the rules. But they are allowing them WITH EXTREME ease to be broken.

The 30% number wasnt fact. It Was my opinion.
But I would not be surprised if it was close. 2-3 out of every ten players.
So she'd have been happier if FW carded her at the door and excluded her?
If you're <21 and choose to play, you know the rules and you're lucky to find a place that will let you in.
Eligibility for BBJ should be a minor consideration.
IMO, <21 players at FW are not even 3%, let alone 30%.
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:38 PM   #2627
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Were the players bad mouthing you cause they were worried about whether they were going to be paid? If so, then you can't blame them. If it was after they knew they were getting paid, then they are just Dbags.

I would have threw you some bucks.
Throughout the whole night the man who won the jackpot told me that "any man would be happy to have me as their wife" and "I wish you the best of health and a happy life" just randomly throughout the game. When the cards were exposed, he told me "I deserved it", "it couldn't happen to a better girl" and "your education is paid for!" After I got escorted to wherever, I texted my friend at the table and asked him what was going on and to see if I could get in contact with the winner. The text response I received was "He said '**** her i have nothing to say to her.'" I'm assuming this was after everybody was paid because I left the grounds not too much later.

I've handled this whole thing better than anyone ever could have. Not once did I cry, and I was scared that the jackpot was never going to be paid out, but it was. Nobody will ever know what this feels like and what I am going through, so anyone who wants to put their negative two cents in can kindly not. I knew I wasn't going to get the jackpot... do you think I'm retarded?

Honestly I only showed my cards because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for EVERYONE and I really don't know if I could sleep at night, knowing that I could have positively benefited the lives of others. I knew that I was going to get banned. I knew the consequences. I'm very grateful to be able to keep my earnings at the table and I've expressed that.

So to my fellow tablemate that said "money will do nothing compared to the lesson she's about to learn" - yes, I've learned a lesson - to never help your (or anyone's) sorry, degenerate ass.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:12 PM   #2628
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[QUOTE=xbeatax;17641044]Throughout the whole night the man who won the jackpot told me that "any man would be happy to have me as their wife" and "I wish you the best of health and a happy life" just randomly throughout the game. When the cards were exposed, he told me "I deserved it", "it couldn't happen to a better girl" and "your education is paid for!" After I got escorted to wherever, I texted my friend at the table and asked him what was going on and to see if I could get in contact with the winner. The text response I received was "He said '**** her i have nothing to say to her.'" I'm assuming this was after everybody was paid because I left the grounds not too much later.

I've handled this whole thing better than anyone ever could have. Not once did I cry, and I was scared that the jackpot was never going to be paid out, but it was. Nobody will ever know what this feels like and what I am going through, so anyone who wants to put their negative two cents in can kindly not. I knew I wasn't going to get the jackpot... do you think I'm retarded?

Honestly I only showed my cards because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for EVERYONE and I really don't know if I could sleep at night, knowing that I could have positively benefited the lives of others. I knew that I was going to get banned. I knew the consequences. I'm very grateful to be able to keep my earnings at the table and I've expressed that.

So to my fellow tablemate that said "money will do nothing compared to the lesson she's about to learn" - yes, I've learned a lesson - to never help your (or anyone's) sorry, degenerate ass.[/QUOTE]

You did it to help yourself and this bolded part proves it. You were thinking of your own personal gain and that is why you didn't muck. It was the heat of the moment I can't say I blame you for wanting a piece but I can't say you deserve one either.

The way everyone there talks about how specific the rules are for the BBJ I am surprised The Woods didn't find a way to not pay it out....

So as great as it sounds after the fact and while the picture Mr. Rick painted above is a pretty one. You didn't muck because you had dollar signs in your eyes not to be a hero for everyone else.

The biggest mistake you made was expecting gratitude. PM Dale Carnegie about that one.... GL in the future.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:35 PM   #2629
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^take a joke, bro. Can't I throw some sass in for good humor? Relax.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:40 PM   #2630
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She wouldn't have thought of it at the time but she could have;

- turned hand face up
- "ooh I gotta powder my nose and call Mommy" [no guy ever contests this]
- Book it out back door.
[ ] Big sister returns later wearing your clothes "So did I win something?"
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:44 PM   #2631
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pics or gtfo.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:00 PM   #2632
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Mr. Rick,

Heard you played well at the Limit Tournament congrats....
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:28 PM   #2633
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Mr. Rick,

Heard you played well at the Limit Tournament congrats....
Thanks. I caught some breaks too.

And Fred played better. He was awesome to watch in action and deserved the win. I was very happy with second ...

A couple of hands I could have put it to Fred before things got out of hand but I chose to play it safe and as it turned out I would have won either of those hands. But I'm not sure the outcome would have been any different. And if things had gone south on either of those hands I would have finished 4th.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:30 PM   #2634
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^take a joke, bro. Can't I throw some sass in for good humor? Relax.
You cost me 20 bucks because I bet with a tablemate that they would not pay anyone for the jackpot. I am surprised Foxwoods missed out an opportunity to screw everyone over.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:07 PM   #2635
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X, you will get great karma for this heroic act, good for you, you did help others. BTW, look for a new "friend".
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:25 PM   #2636
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NH Mr Rick.

Congrats to whoever pwned 20$ off Paison's suspected gimmick account
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:18 AM   #2637
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Throughout the whole night the man who won the jackpot told me that "any man would be happy to have me as their wife" and "I wish you the best of health and a happy life" just randomly throughout the game. When the cards were exposed, he told me "I deserved it", "it couldn't happen to a better girl" and "your education is paid for!" After I got escorted to wherever, I texted my friend at the table and asked him what was going on and to see if I could get in contact with the winner. The text response I received was "He said '**** her i have nothing to say to her.'" I'm assuming this was after everybody was paid because I left the grounds not too much later.

I've handled this whole thing better than anyone ever could have. Not once did I cry, and I was scared that the jackpot was never going to be paid out, but it was. Nobody will ever know what this feels like and what I am going through, so anyone who wants to put their negative two cents in can kindly not. I knew I wasn't going to get the jackpot... do you think I'm retarded?

Honestly I only showed my cards because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for EVERYONE and I really don't know if I could sleep at night, knowing that I could have positively benefited the lives of others. I knew that I was going to get banned. I knew the consequences. I'm very grateful to be able to keep my earnings at the table and I've expressed that.

So to my fellow tablemate that said "money will do nothing compared to the lesson she's about to learn" - yes, I've learned a lesson - to never help your (or anyone's) sorry, degenerate ass.
Just a few thoughts:
If you really knew you'd miss the JP and get banned, tabling your hand was the right thing to do (altho mucking wouldn't have gained you anything and in fact would have cost you the $200 pot), so you should feel good about that. You did the right thing, regardless.
Apparently the winner is a jerk; the world is full of them. (What? A jerk at a poker table? OMG.)
But if your last sentence is for real, not a joke, then you learned the wrong lesson here.
Not winning $100,000 must feel like a big deal, but, believe me, you will go through worse things in your life. Sounds like you're dealing with this OK, though. Put it behind you and move on. (At least you got quite a story out of it.)
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:22 AM   #2638
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xbeat, you're not that chick from long island that comes up with her BF all the time are you?
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:13 AM   #2639
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Just a few thoughts:
If you really knew you'd miss the JP and get banned, tabling your hand was the right thing to do (altho mucking wouldn't have gained you anything and in fact would have cost you the $200 pot), so you should feel good about that. You did the right thing, regardless.
Apparently the winner is a jerk; the world is full of them. (What? A jerk at a poker table? OMG.)
But if your last sentence is for real, not a joke, then you learned the wrong lesson here.
Not winning $100,000 must feel like a big deal, but, believe me, you will go through worse things in your life. Sounds like you're dealing with this OK, though. Put it behind you and move on. (At least you got quite a story out of it.)
Yeah it's a joke. It's the absolute worst case scenario to happen. I'm back on my grind so I've moved on.

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xbeat, you're not that chick from long island that comes up with her BF all the time are you?
nope, not me. I'm from Connecticut.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:42 AM   #2640
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You cost me 20 bucks because I bet with a tablemate that they would not pay anyone for the jackpot. I am surprised Foxwoods missed out an opportunity to screw everyone over.
Foxwoods has to tread carefully there. Yes they want the BBJ to reach $500K+ for promotional purposes, but they also have to maintain their reputation for honesty. Denying a jackpot for collusion is OK, but to unfairly stretch that to other excuses will not fly, nor would keeping the money and not returning it to the jackpot.

A Foxwoods Casino cheating its customers scandal would not be soon forgiven.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:33 AM   #2641
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my friend is at foxwoods right now and is all annoyed taht the BBJP is suspended during the tournament series?


any idea the reasoning behind this?
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:11 PM   #2642
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That's impossible. I was there all last week till saturday. That just sounds redic.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:41 PM   #2643
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my friend is at foxwoods right now and is all annoyed that the BBJP is suspended during the tournament series?

any idea the reasoning behind this?
There are two BBJP's. The big one for cash games and the smaller tournament one. I'm pretty sure its the tourney one that is being suspended. Last time I looked it was at about $10,000... The bigger one was at ~$260,000 and I failed to win it when I played 1/2 NL for about an hour on Saturday.

I would guess that because the tourneys are all WPT right now Foxwoods doesn't want to be giving away the jackpot to somebody who doesn't regularly play there.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:01 PM   #2644
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The website says the tourny jackpot is intended for the daily no limit tournies only.

http://www.foxwoods.com/badbeatjackpot.aspx

Considering that the minimum hand is a lot lower than than the cash game BBJ it has been surprising to me that is still hasn't been hit. This $10K level is a very unusually big jackpot.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:53 PM   #2645
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Maybe I'm alone on this, and I don't consider myself a jackass, but I wouldn't give anyone part of the BBJ jackpot that I won, its not like anyone received the money she was supposed to receive; she forfeited it by breaking the rules. I can't imagine thinking the other guy was doing anything disreputable by refusing to give her a piece of his winnings.

Its like expecting when you get sucked out on really badly that the other person throw you part of the pot, because you deserve it or whatever the reasoning is here. Nobody deserves the portion of the BBJ jackpot awarded to anyone but themselves. Seems like expecting waaay too much to hope for a stranger to give you money that is 100% theirs. I wouldn't.

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Old 03-22-2010, 04:45 PM   #2646
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No harm in consulting with a lawyer. She was playing, no one asked for id prior to the jackpot. edit: especially since they let her cash out, the jackpot would be another pot she won.
Its a little human decency. If it wasn't for her they'd have nada. It goes to show how selfish humans can be with an opportunity for Genorousity sitting right in front of them. Nevermind gratitude. Fortunetly for them she didn't muck....which in hindsight she probably should have.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:47 PM   #2647
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Maybe I'm alone on this, and I don't consider myself a jack--s, but I wouldn't give anyone part of the BBJ jackpot that I won, its not like anyone received the money she was supposed to receive; she forfeited it by breaking the rules. I can't imagine thinking the other guy was doing anything disreputable by refusing to give her a piece of his winnings.

Its like expecting when you get sucked out on really badly that the other person throw you part of the pot, because you deserve it or whatever the reasoning is here. Nobody deserves the portion of the BBJ jackpot awarded to anyone but themselves. Seems like expecting waaay too much to hope for a stranger to give you money that is 100% theirs. I wouldn't.
My point is that I received an actual "**** you" from the "winner" instead of a thank you.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:02 PM   #2648
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I would've given you 10K.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:13 PM   #2649
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I would've given you 10K.
Its easy to give away money you don't have.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:21 PM   #2650
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Throughout the whole night the man who won the jackpot told me that "any man would be happy to have me as their wife" and "I wish you the best of health and a happy life" just randomly throughout the game. When the cards were exposed, he told me "I deserved it", "it couldn't happen to a better girl" and "your education is paid for!" After I got escorted to wherever, I texted my friend at the table and asked him what was going on and to see if I could get in contact with the winner. The text response I received was "He said '**** her i have nothing to say to her.'" I'm assuming this was after everybody was paid because I left the grounds not too much later.

I've handled this whole thing better than anyone ever could have. Not once did I cry, and I was scared that the jackpot was never going to be paid out, but it was. Nobody will ever know what this feels like and what I am going through, so anyone who wants to put their negative two cents in can kindly not. I knew I wasn't going to get the jackpot... do you think I'm retarded?

Honestly I only showed my cards because this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for EVERYONE and I really don't know if I could sleep at night, knowing that I could have positively benefited the lives of others. I knew that I was going to get banned. I knew the consequences. I'm very grateful to be able to keep my earnings at the table and I've expressed that.

So to my fellow tablemate that said "money will do nothing compared to the lesson she's about to learn" - yes, I've learned a lesson - to never help your (or anyone's) sorry, degenerate ass.
I personnally would give a red chip for your Lawyers fees, & I don't even know ya? Atty Mike Jewel esq. in Norwich helped me get off of a Speeding ticket some yrs ago, cheaper than what the fine & insurance upgrade woulda been. In the next month when you turn 21 come on over too MoheganSun Poker rm.
What you did was very classly!
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