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04-09-2019 , 10:25 PM
QUESTION- Is Firekeepers not doing the discounted rooms for the MSPT this May?
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04-10-2019 , 08:31 AM
Per (weak) hotel staff there either was no block of rooms set aside for MSPT or they are already sold out for that rate. They actually are sold out for Friday night already for all guests as well. Thursday was listed at $169 (but you need to check out on Friday). And Saturday night was listed at $274 with 'x' rooms available.

From chatter during cash games, a lot of Players just book rooms for the next tournament when they are there for the ongoing tournament so it could be that 'the block' fills up before anyone else can even get the rate. GL
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04-22-2019 , 08:46 PM
Keepers is having some success getting the deepstacked 1/3 NL game going. Im sitting in it now with Manion on my left.
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04-22-2019 , 11:56 PM
Same Manion banned from Gun Lake?
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04-23-2019 , 10:46 AM
Good to see some chips being moved around down there ... big month coming up for FK.

GLake is definitely slowing down post tax-now spring/summer days. Hopefully the staff can buckle down and ride out the first slowing down period for the room. A bit of turnover in the 'lower' Floor-Dual Rate department. I don't think it's my place to put out employee/employer relations drama into a public forum. There are lots of opportunities out there and not all jobs are for everyone. GL
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04-23-2019 , 07:54 PM
It was definitely good times. As of now they have enough regs on board (me included) to make this a regular thing, we will just have to see if it can be sustained.

There was lots of straddling, and there were even some bomb pot talks, but we couldnt get all 9 on board.
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04-25-2019 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
Keepers is having some success getting the deepstacked 1/3 NL game going. Im sitting in it now with Manion on my left.
This is incredible news. I hope it becomes the standard limit.

I know I won't be playing 1/2 anymore if this is a frequent thing.

And I would love to play some bombed pots (but only if I'm stacked lol).
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04-26-2019 , 08:42 AM
The opportunity is there for FK to win back some Players for sure. The 2/5 pool at GLake is pretty solid and, well, somewhat tedious to play when PLO is just 10 feet away!!

As always the poker winds will blow ... but Old Man Winter will return and once the fall MSPT is complete things will shift again. GL
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05-07-2019 , 11:05 AM
1/3 was rocking over the weekend. Some pretty big stacks/racks taken to the cage.

MSPT week is next week!!

From what I've heard they have added 4 more starting tables, if needed, so that up to 360 Players can be active in the tournament at one time.

There have been over 200 'golden' tickets earned via Satty so far. That number could double by next week Thursday with lots more opportunities to gain a discounted entry.

Should be there Thursday with two bullets handy ... Hope to keep shuffling those 'valueless' chips for at least 14 levels ... GL
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05-07-2019 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
1/3 was rocking over the weekend. Some pretty big stacks/racks taken to the cage.

MSPT week is next week!!

From what I've heard they have added 4 more starting tables, if needed, so that up to 360 Players can be active in the tournament at one time.

There have been over 200 'golden' tickets earned via Satty so far. That number could double by next week Thursday with lots more opportunities to gain a discounted entry.

Should be there Thursday with two bullets handy ... Hope to keep shuffling those 'valueless' chips for at least 14 levels ... GL
I have three "golden tickets" for this event. Never played the main before. Is it easy to sell the tickets if I run through Day 1 on one bullet?
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05-07-2019 , 11:28 AM
It's very easy to sell those tickets ... I'm assuming you have 1 Thursday and 2 Friday? Otherwise you may be trying to sell a Thursday during a break? (I guess I'm assuming you know that they are 'day' specific already.)

It's very common to sell these off at $1000-1050 on the day of the tournament. Someone may press you for a little less, like today, but I've never seen one go for less than $900 when someone put at least a little effort into the selling process.

And don't worry, you wont get in trouble for 'scalping' near the cage. GL

PS .. There's a lively 'conversation' either here or in the WM thread where a Player 'offered' a seat for quite a discount and then really laid into the poster for agreeing to the price.
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05-07-2019 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
It's very easy to sell those tickets ... I'm assuming you have 1 Thursday and 2 Friday? Otherwise you may be trying to sell a Thursday during a break? (I guess I'm assuming you know that they are 'day' specific already.)

It's very common to sell these off at $1000-1050 on the day of the tournament. Someone may press you for a little less, like today, but I've never seen one go for less than $900 when someone put at least a little effort into the selling process.

And don't worry, you wont get in trouble for 'scalping' near the cage. GL

PS .. There's a lively 'conversation' either here or in the WM thread where a Player 'offered' a seat for quite a discount and then really laid into the poster for agreeing to the price.
Perfect. Thanks for the info! I actually think I have 2 Thursday and 1 Friday. I might just try to sell before the event Thursday. My thinking was having two bullets for Day 1 might be a good idea. Idk. We'll see how we're feeling that day. Thanks again!
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05-07-2019 , 01:04 PM
I would sell the 2nd Thursday before Noon for $1050 (easy money) and then you wont 'have to' re-enter on Thursday if you bust past Level 6-7 . At worst it will be a $50 'penalty' if you do re-enter on Fri or Sat with that cash.

My thinking is that you don't want your play affected by the fact that you have an expiring 'gift certificate' in your pocket. I'm assuming that the wait list will be pretty limited on Thursday, but the last thing you want is to try and sell that during first break (Level 3 or 4) and/or make some 'stupid' aggressive play because you know you can just re-enter ... and then have to stand around and wait for the next open seat.

I look at this as you've already min-cashed ($2100 if you sell two), but I don't know your style of play either.

This is a bird/bush spot that only you can work through ... GL
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05-11-2019 , 09:28 AM
Anyone want to buy my seat for $50??? Jk
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05-11-2019 , 10:44 PM
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05-12-2019 , 12:33 AM
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05-12-2019 , 09:28 AM
Can someone briefly explain the process of buying someone else’s seat? I might go there earlier on Saturday and try and do so, but isn’t the seat that the player won tied to their Firekeepers player card # and what not? How exactly does the “transfer” process take place once I give someone $1000 or whatever it may be?
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05-12-2019 , 09:49 AM
Im sure someone else who can help better will chime in, but my understanding is that won seats must be used on thursday/friday. Saturday is cash buy in only. So if you show up on Saturday looking to buy someones seat, youre gonna have a bad time.
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05-12-2019 , 10:47 AM
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Can someone briefly explain the process of buying someone else’s seat? I might go there earlier on Saturday and try and do so, but isn’t the seat that the player won tied to their Firekeepers player card # and what not? How exactly does the “transfer” process take place once I give someone $1000 or whatever it may be?
You're not buying someone's "seat" - You're buying someone's transferable certificate. You can hold as many certificates as you'd like.

I think you can simply transfer it by hand, but you may need to sign it somewhere.
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05-12-2019 , 11:05 AM
You give the person with the certificate cash, and then you both sign it. The holder transfers it to you, and you turn it in to the cage for the tournament entry. Those certificates are basically cash, so whomever is physically possessing them has the buy-in. Just make sure your name is on it, and you're all good. I really haven't heard of anyone having an issue with the process before.
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05-12-2019 , 11:09 AM
Hi guys I want to improve my poker
But it seems I just can't do it but reading and watching videos
Any advice
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05-12-2019 , 11:36 PM
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Hi guys I want to improve my poker
But it seems I just can't do it but reading and watching videos
Any advice
It's sort of strange that you found this site, registered an account, and decided to use your first post asking for help in the firekeepers thread. We don't talk a lot of poker strategy in this thread.

This site has a lot of sub forums for poker strategy. I play mostly NL holdem cash games. Assuming you are playing at firekeepers, it's mostly all 1/2, and the live low stakes forum here is good for learning strategy to beat those games. Check it out. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...low-stakes-nl/
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05-13-2019 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by twoblack9s
Can someone briefly explain the process of buying someone else’s seat? I might go there earlier on Saturday ....
1) The 'golden ticket' transfer process is pretty simple as explained. It's like selling a car if you've ever seen an auto title before ... buyer sign here, seller sign here ... (without the selling price noted!!)

2) There are 8PM Turbo $250 tournaments Thursday and Friday nights that will generate entries. I'm not sure if you get to choose Fri or Sat after the Thursday one, but obviously the Fri is for entries on Sat. But IMO the odds of someone going through a Turbo and then wanting to sell it are pretty low. They would be more likely to sell it right after that tournament is over ...

3) As indicated, all of the entries through Wed night's Satty will be designated for Thur or Fri, which must be decided when earned.

Have fun, HPT failed miserably to get to the $1M mark this weekend, even with 4 Day 1s. I don't think that will be a problem for this MSPT one bit. The lower buy-in (and longer re-entry period with better structure?) generates more folks firing multiple bullets IMO. Someone having to skip work for a Day 2 without a 'sure' payday may affect some mind sets as well. GL
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05-14-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Have fun, HPT failed miserably to get to the $1M mark this weekend, even with 4 Day 1s. I don't think that will be a problem for this MSPT one bit. The lower buy-in (and longer re-entry period with better structure?) generates more folks firing multiple bullets IMO. Someone having to skip work for a Day 2 without a 'sure' payday may affect some mind sets as well. GL
I have only heard good things about this event at FireKeepers. But it's not a bigger field because it's a better structure, or because it promotes more reentries. A player apparently went through 10 bullets at the HPT in East Chicago just now. Likely has a lot to do with the fact that AEC doesn't have a poker room, and as such can't promote the event weeks and/or months in advance to their players. And Maybe FK just does a better job at something.

I am sure the fact that it was Mother's Day Weekend cost them a lot of players, but presumably, this is the weekend that they could schedule it, so they take what they can get. In terms of scheduling, I greatly prefer the HPT model over the MSPT model. This weekend was different, due to the holiday, but their typical schedule with day 2 Sunday and final table Monday is, IMO, dramatically better than the MSPT schedule of day 2 and final table all on Sunday. To do their current day 2 and day 3 (final table) in one day would not realistically be possible for the HPT, as they offer more play than the MSPT, and their final tables would run through most of the night before completion. But, preferences in structures and scheduling are personal choices, so YMMV.

Cheers, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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05-15-2019 , 11:18 AM
Thanks Greg .. good to see you in the FK thread!! Would love to see you there if things work out for both of us. I've seen 'Cr Ca' (Mr. HPT) at the MSPT at Poto, but never at FK. I'm sure having you at a MSPT event would be wonderful as well!!

Structure talk is always fun. Since I'm not a Pro I think most of my comments are skewed to the cost and calendar structure of a tournament. (Might be a bad choice of word.) MSPT does limit a Player to 1 re-entry per day. But I do think the jump from $1100 to $1650 does have an affect on a Player's budget. You re-enforce a 'marketing' point that I've already made on Twitter ... FK will have handed out close to 300 entries to Players who gained them via the Qualifiers and Satellites, which can't happen at HPT-EC (570 total entries).

I agree that for 'poker' the HPT model is probably much better. For the MSPT it's Level 29 for the 50K/100K point, Do you know what Level number that is for HPT since that's where the HPT ended yesterday? (I couldn't find the HPT structure with a quick look at their site.)

It would be interesting to gather Player opinion on the extra day's work involved with an HPT. I don't want to completely tie the extra day to the TV production, but I think that having a set time to be fully staffed (and rested) has some influence on the extra day as well as the tournament just takes longer to complete in general. MSPT's 'stream only' approach is a bit simpler to pull off for sure.

The opportunity to prepare mentally for a FT would be wonderful beyond the hour (or less) break that MSPT takes. One MSPT at FK went until past 3 AM, so that was at least 16 hours of play in one day for the final 3.

Just a little gibber jabber ... always love to talk poker ... GL
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