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10-29-2019 , 11:19 PM
I did a quick search of CCP, and found 2 threads with similar issues (both Omaha, so 4 cards, but same principle).

The majority opinion in this thread is that it is indeed a dead hand. You're responsible for protecting your hand, and you said yourself, "I'm not paying attention to the dealer as she deals".

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ction-1706087/

Of course, you could be in a room like the Orleans where they do something *really* funky!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-back-1716419/
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10-30-2019 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PierreFermat
My real question is what is going on w/ the 2-2 PLO8 game which was running Thu-Sun most days?
PLO and PLO/8 games have been moved to the middle section, so that might be a contributing factor.

2/2 PLO/8 ran on Saturday until about 10:30 PM
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10-30-2019 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
I did a quick search of CCP, and found 2 threads with similar issues (both Omaha, so 4 cards, but same principle).

The majority opinion in this thread is that it is indeed a dead hand. You're responsible for protecting your hand, and you said yourself, "I'm not paying attention to the dealer as she deals".

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ction-1706087/
The difference between this situation and the one you posted is the time elapsed.

In the linked thread, the SB didn't notice the 5th card until it got to be his turn.

In this one, a player in "EP" had raised. It's not clear whether this player was UTG (misdeal) or not (dead hand). But furthermore, the OP here says he alerted the dealer almost as soon as it happened, as was backed up by the table.

There is also the additional potential complication of some of the early action happening before the deal completed. I'm not saying it happened here, but it might have. Obviously the SB cannot alert the dealer to having received a 3rd card until he gets it, so any action that happens before the third card is received has to be discounted somehow too, even if it would otherwise be (significant) action.

All of which is to say, unless the raise was UTG, the technical resolution is a dead hand, but depending on the circumstances, the dealer's certainty about which card was third, whether the hero looked at his cards already, etc., I will give significant latitude for alternate resolutions (mainly: return one of the 3 cards to the stub to be the burn).
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10-30-2019 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lordfoo
PLO and PLO/8 games have been moved to the middle section, so that might be a contributing factor.

2/2 PLO/8 ran on Saturday until about 10:30 PM
Thank god. I think moving 2-2 PLO/PLO8 to the middle section is the right move. Leave that other area towards the elevator/bathrooms for 4-8 LHE/O8 and 1/3.
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10-30-2019 , 07:36 PM
For the promo players.

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10-30-2019 , 07:58 PM
Looks like Encore is dropping the hammer on the local competition
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10-30-2019 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jelloman
Looks like Encore is dropping the hammer on the local competition
Holy shiznit!!! How can they possibly pull that promo off seeing as I've been told by certain people on here that the room is dead/dying?
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10-30-2019 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr ATM
Holy shiznit!!! How can they possibly pull that promo off seeing as I've been told by certain people on here that the room is dead/dying?
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
$100 for 2 meals
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10-30-2019 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr ATM
Holy shiznit!!! How can they possibly pull that promo off seeing as I've been told by certain people on here that the room is dead/dying?


Dead? No

This obv made my day. I wonder how the other rooms are going to respond
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10-31-2019 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
Dead? No

This obv made my day. I wonder how the other rooms are going to respond
It will be interesting to see how the next Monday Madness goes at FW. This is $600,000 in high hands. This is gonna be sick!
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10-31-2019 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr ATM
Holy shiznit!!! How can they possibly pull that promo off seeing as I've been told by certain people on here that the room is dead/dying?
Omg please lol. The place has been a ghost town except for weekends and when a tournament is running. This is a promo they've needed to finally fill and overflow the room. It's about time!
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10-31-2019 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Omg please lol. The place has been a ghost town except for weekends and when a tournament is running. This is a promo they've needed to finally fill and overflow the room. It's about time!
Why doe this response not surprise me? I'm quite certain nobody else is shocked either.

#lost #clueless

Last edited by Mr ATM; 10-31-2019 at 09:37 AM.
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10-31-2019 , 09:57 AM
mod: for the moment I'm leaving the above few posts here because, despite all my efforts, there seem to be a few people who want to continue to have the same stupid argument, and I don't want to insist on my own acceptable posting standards and topics instead of letting this community decide on their own.

But please, god, can't you all find something productive to post about instead of rehashing this same old trope?

And either way, no more name calling. Any more of that will result in temp bans. Talk about the idea, not the person.
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10-31-2019 , 02:11 PM
Taking the casino as a whole, since there are no financial numbers specifically about the poker room, it's doing the best out of all the casinos in Massachusetts - but every casino in Massachusetts took a small hit in September. I think we've reached an overcrowding point with casinos in the northeast, and now they are trying to eat each other's lunches.

We have to remember this place is under new management. The old management stepped down. Shortly after, they announced that revenue projections for the 1st year at Encore Boston Harbor will be $600 million rather than the original $1 billion ($980 million, if we look at old articles). (Source: https://casino.buzz/encore-boston-ha...counted-ferry/ ) A few months ago, MGM Springfield had also revised their projections downwards. What's fascinating is that there are still talks about how to proceed with the third casino license for Massachusetts for the southwest region, but I suppose a billion dollar local industry is still a nice sized pie to want a piece of.

I like a lot of the moves Encore has been making recently, though many were addressing problems that casino veterans around here could predict from day 1 (e.g., the parking fees and the lack of a more affordable, regular dining option). Good blackjack tables now start at $25, and there are many more $15 options for table games. They've also made the long-route buses free (but $7 for guaranteed seating) including from New Hampshire, when it used to be $14, while also rolling out a very generous poker promo giving away $3k/hr starting soon after the first bus arrives each day. Maybe they heard New Hampshire folks play poker and pack nice lunches.
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10-31-2019 , 02:35 PM
How will tonight being Halloween affect the room?

Busier than the average Thursday? Less busy? No real difference?
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10-31-2019 , 03:08 PM
Woo that November 27 is going to be crazy. $2,000 every 20 minutes? 60k over the day? The games are going to be soo good.
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10-31-2019 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mind Reader
How will tonight being Halloween affect the room?

Busier than the average Thursday? Less busy? No real difference?
Am I allowed to play in my OMC costume!?
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10-31-2019 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mind Reader
How will tonight being Halloween affect the room?

Busier than the average Thursday? Less busy? No real difference?
B-52's are playing there tonight. Does that answer your question?
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10-31-2019 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cal617
We have to remember this place is under new management. The old management stepped down. Shortly after, they announced that revenue projections for the 1st year at Encore Boston Harbor will be $600 million rather than the original $1 billion ($980 million, if we look at old articles). (Source: https://casino.buzz/encore-boston-ha...counted-ferry/ ) A few months ago, MGM Springfield had also revised their projections downwards.
I don't know why people get so uptight about Encore and its poker room to be underperforming their previously stated expectations. The business side of this casino in such a dense market is fascinating to me. Either way, let's be clear on one thing. Executives and/or Management don't "step down" from high pressure six-figure positions 3 months into a grand opening when revenues are projecting 40% less than their investors expected. They are removed. Any other statement is simply geared to PR in my experiences.
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10-31-2019 , 03:38 PM
Yes, it's what they officially called it. Any correlations or conclusions drawn between the events are left to readers.
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10-31-2019 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Burdzthewurd
Am I allowed to play in my OMC costume!?
I don't think you need a costume for that. Just be yourself.
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10-31-2019 , 04:08 PM
what's the max on 5/5 plo?
still 9 a half?
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10-31-2019 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Whoop
I don't think you need a costume for that. Just be yourself.
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Originally Posted by dinesh
And either way, no more name calling. Any more of that will result in temp bans. Talk about the idea, not the person.
Reported
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10-31-2019 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Whoop
I don't think you need a costume for that. Just be yourself.


I think you’re more of an OMC than Burdz
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10-31-2019 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
The place has been a ghost town
I feel personally attacked!

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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Executives and/or Management don't "step down" from high pressure six-figure positions 3 months into a grand opening
Ah c'mon. DeSalvio had two jobs: getting the place up and running, and making sure none of the tubs in the spa overflowed. Mission accomplished. I can't imagine he'd have been happy sticking around and minding the store for too long after all that excitement.
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