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07-18-2019 , 05:16 PM
Looking for more hands per hour? Hope this is a Time game... Wonder if Encore would bring it.

https://www.facebook.com/mappokertab...0021603454967/
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07-18-2019 , 05:20 PM
They tried that out for a bit some time ago at, uh, I forget, Borgata or Aria maybe? It didn't last long, got too confusing.
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07-18-2019 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
So yeah, the MGC basically lol'd at the lawsuit today. I also got a few good laughs reading the WoV thread about this, with posters highlighting just how bad the MGC's rules are written.


Link for those of us(me?) who doesn’t know what WoV is
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07-18-2019 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
They tried that out for a bit some time ago at, uh, I forget, Borgata or Aria maybe? It didn't last long, got too confusing.


Aria
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07-18-2019 , 06:03 PM
Wizard of Vegas. It's the message forum for Wizard of Odds.
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07-18-2019 , 06:27 PM
Second session today. Overheard brush telling a player that parking validation will require 3 hours minimum play starting tomorrow. Did not see this in the thread.
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07-18-2019 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by vesperka
How big do the $2/$2 PLO games play? I've only played PLO live once in Vegas - the blinds were $1/$2 with a min bring-in of $5, so the pots would get pretty sizable preflop.

I'm interested in trying out PLO at Encore, but I don't think I'm ready for the variance yet if the average players are loose preflop and playing for stacks every couple of hands or so.
I spent a good 4 hours discussing PLO with some new kid at my table the other night. Its not an easy game to get into both strategy and bankroll.

2/2 PLO plays like a 2/5 PLO game which is about the equiv. to 5/10 NL in terms of bankroll but PLO naturally has high variance.

I am by no means an expert but there are a few things you could do before playing to get you a bit more prepared.

https://upswingpoker.com/pushing-pul...reflop-tactic/


Without any knowledge of PLO, to get an idea of just how swingy PLO is... Get a poker calculator for NLH and PLO... Run some random hands vs each other and you will notice that PLO hands, even garbage, equities run closer than NLH always. Meaning, your preflop decision to continue with a hand is very important (hand selection) and understanding board texture are two very important starting concepts.
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07-18-2019 , 07:14 PM
Link to the WoV Encore blackjack lawsuit thread

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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Overheard brush telling a player that parking validation will require 3 hours minimum play starting tomorrow.
Brush told me the same thing. I wonder if that means parking is going up to 3 comp dollars for all guests? The garage is not filling up except for Friday and Saturday nights AFAICT, so I don't see why they feel the need to turn the screws on this.

BTW, one trick I heard about is that those lights in roofs of the garage are color coded; the red lights mean no spaces nearby, but the green lights mean there's a spot available.
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07-18-2019 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Conan776
Link to the WoV Encore blackjack lawsuit thread



Brush told me the same thing. I wonder if that means parking is going up to 3 comp dollars for all guests? The garage is not filling up except for Friday and Saturday nights AFAICT, so I don't see why they feel the need to turn the screws on this.

BTW, one trick I heard about is that those lights in roofs of the garage are color coded; the red lights mean no spaces nearby, but the green lights mean there's a spot available.
Worker from Twin River in another forum posted the requirement of 3 hours minimum and 1 comp point. Didn’t believe him b/c he also posted that the roof was falling. Sounded eerily familiar.
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07-18-2019 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA
Looking for more hands per hour? Hope this is a Time game... Wonder if Encore would bring it.

https://www.facebook.com/mappokertab...0021603454967/
Played this at the Isle with none other than mizrachi or whatever his name is.
Some famous poker player that was advertising for them.
2/5 and you buy two stacks.
Diff chips set so I don’t mix them and Teo dealers and is only confusing when u dealt two great hands and must play them both.
Most time you are playing one cuz you fold things like K9 all the time that you might play otherwise. At least I do cuz yolo
Great game but you definitely have to take a break sometimes cuz there’s so much action and more hectic that you get literally and physically tired.
I enjoyed it for a while. They do double rake... yikes
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07-18-2019 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBrokenATM!
Played this at the Isle with none other than mizrachi or whatever his name is.
Some famous poker player that was advertising for them.
2/5 and you buy two stacks.
Diff chips set so I don’t mix them and Teo dealers and is only confusing when u dealt two great hands and must play them both.
Most time you are playing one cuz you fold things like K9 all the time that you might play otherwise. At least I do cuz yolo
Great game but you definitely have to take a break sometimes cuz there’s so much action and more hectic that you get literally and physically tired.
I enjoyed it for a while. They do double rake... yikes
Coming from the online world, live poker is deadly slow and often deadly boring. I'd love anything that ups the speed of the game. Why haven't we figured out a way to automate the games, computer for a dealer, screens at each seat for hole cards, etc? Less appealing for recreational players? More hands per hour = more rake for the casino, which seems like a pretty meaningful incentive on their end.
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07-18-2019 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by VariousWords
Coming from the online world, live poker is deadly slow and often deadly boring. I'd love anything that ups the speed of the game. Why haven't we figured out a way to automate the games, computer for a dealer, screens at each seat for hole cards, etc? Less appealing for recreational players? More hands per hour = more rake for the casino, which seems like a pretty meaningful incentive on their end.
I played a limit hold'em game on a cruise ship once that was exactly as you describe. Pretty fun, but not the same feel as live chips, etc. No reason they couldn't have a some as an option, like they do for roulette and blackjack. And craps at some casinos.
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07-18-2019 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ungarop
Second session today. Overheard brush telling a player that parking validation will require 3 hours minimum play starting tomorrow. Did not see this in the thread.
I heard dealers and floor managers telling players the same thing. There were a few players that didn't have a Red Card at my table and the dealer didn't realize one of them was coming back after I stacked him so he signed him out. When he came back with ATM cash, dealer apologized saying that he would tell the floor that he was already playing for 90 minutes so that he could get comped parking after another 90 minutes. They said it was starting "in the morning", I left at 330am with my parking comped at the host desk as has been the policy of late.

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BTW, one trick I heard about is that those lights in roofs of the garage are color coded; the red lights mean no spaces nearby, but the green lights mean there's a spot available.
True, the lights above indicate open spaces. There is also blue lights indicating handicapped spots open. One of the things that has irritated me when the garage has been fuller is big trucks/old clunkers parking in the "reserved for green vehicles" spots which are right next to the elevators. I totaled my car a couple months ago and we're waiting until coming back from summer vacation before replacing it. For the time being I'm stuck driving my wife's Prius which I hate, but at least comes with this perk (until some jerk ignores the sign).

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They do double rake... yikes
I was wondering about that, definitely rough. I could see a higher total rake seeing as how they have to staff two dealers and provide two shufflers, but not double since you already have the table. Maybe each pot $3-4 max instead of $5 max on both would make sense.
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07-18-2019 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VariousWords
Coming from the online world, live poker is deadly slow and often deadly boring. I'd love anything that ups the speed of the game. Why haven't we figured out a way to automate the games, computer for a dealer, screens at each seat for hole cards, etc? Less appealing for recreational players? More hands per hour = more rake for the casino, which seems like a pretty meaningful incentive on their end.
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Originally Posted by blee24
I played a limit hold'em game on a cruise ship once that was exactly as you describe. Pretty fun, but not the same feel as live chips, etc. No reason they couldn't have a some as an option, like they do for roulette and blackjack. And craps at some casinos.
Yup they already exist, they are called e-tables. And we have a containment thread for the topic, so please use that if you wish to discuss this further.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...thread-517176/
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07-18-2019 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
They tried that out for a bit some time ago at, uh, I forget, Borgata or Aria maybe? It didn't last long, got too confusing.


Florida tried it, having two different colored chips for different hands, stupid in my opinion. People can’t even play one stack cause they’re too distracted with phones and TV’s now a days
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07-18-2019 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA
I heard dealers and floor managers telling players the same thing. There were a few players that didn't have a Red Card at my table and the dealer didn't realize one of them was coming back after I stacked him so he signed him out. When he came back with ATM cash, dealer apologized saying that he would tell the floor that he was already playing for 90 minutes so that he could get comped parking after another 90 minutes. They said it was starting "in the morning", I left at 330am with my parking comped at the host desk as has been the policy of late.



True, the lights above indicate open spaces. There is also blue lights indicating handicapped spots open. One of the things that has irritated me when the garage has been fuller is big trucks/old clunkers parking in the "reserved for green vehicles" spots which are right next to the elevators. I totaled my car a couple months ago and we're waiting until coming back from summer vacation before replacing it. For the time being I'm stuck driving my wife's Prius which I hate, but at least comes with this perk (until some jerk ignores the sign).



I was wondering about that, definitely rough. I could see a higher total rake seeing as how they have to staff two dealers and provide two shufflers, but not double since you already have the table. Maybe each pot $3-4 max instead of $5 max on both would make sense.
I believe it was $4 or $5 at 10% which meant 5 each hand almost.
Also the reason was MAP is a registered and copyright protected so casinos pay a cut to the company who “created” it.
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07-19-2019 , 03:54 AM
Just left after another session, still scanning parking tickets at the host desk. I'm guessing they can't possibly implement a comp dollar system until the comp system is linked to Poker Atlas, so I wouldn't worry about it any time soon.
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07-19-2019 , 04:29 AM
While we may have been distracted by other things, such as lawsuits, the Mass Gaming Commission replaced the rules of poker on its website on Wednesday.

There are three new sections added at the end of the rules:

Section 20. Five-card Omaha Poker (Five-card Omaha High or Five-card Omaha High-Low Split Eight or Better)
Section 21. Triple Draw Poker
Section 22. Badugi

Before any gaming licensee can offer games they must specify to the Gaming Commission how they will run each game and that submittal must be approved by the MGC. So they probably can't offer these games today but it should be soon.
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07-19-2019 , 08:12 AM
I'd be psyched at the prospect of 2-7 triple draw, but my feeling is that would only be at the 80/160 mixed game.
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07-19-2019 , 08:22 AM
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I'd be psyched at the prospect of 2-7 triple draw, but my feeling is that would only be at the 80/160 mixed game.
Yeah i feel the same about badugi. I am disappointed that they didn't add razz.
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07-19-2019 , 08:42 AM
Made my first trip Thursday evening right after work. Left Weston at 4 p.m., was in Encore garage at 5 p.m., normal traffic. Gentlemen at gate was pushing button and handing out tickets.

Nice to have red/green light system to find parking spots. Found one on third level close to North elevators. Needed to get Red Card first, so I went to casino level, did not realize there was Red Card booth right next to cashier in poker room.

Definitely has that "new casino" feel. Poker room is well-lit. I used online wait list system, so I marked myself as arrived and immediately sat down at 3-6 LHE. Also marked 4-8 O8 just in case, but somehow system also put me down for 2-5 NLHE, but I just ignored that call.

Like the nine-handed tables. Play was typical 3-6, people calling down with any draw and sometimes getting lucky. I was down to final money before making comeback close to starting stack. Ended up with half my buy-in.

Definitely can tell difference between new dealers and experienced ones, but new dealers were just a little slower with everything. One dealer caused significant delay by requesting too many chips to fill rack.

Best-looking waitresses outside of Vegas. The one for our table came around frequently for a while, then seemed to disappear for about an hour before returning one more time before the end of her shift.

Ordered chicken caeser salad from Poker Grill. OK, not worth $18. Fellow player asked for burger cooked medium, but he received a medium-rare one.

Floor can be non-existent at times when needed. They were talking over each other calling for players. It seemed that seats were constantly being filled and that they were trying to open new tables at reasonable rate.

I guess MGC cracked down on them selling chips outside of cage at separate table, so line to cash out was long. Up to Encore to adjust and open more windows.

Parking ticketed was electronically validated, young woman waiting at exit took ticket and scanned it. Gate opened, and I was on my way home.

If parking rules change, will need to make adjustment, but overall this will be a consistent destination. Can't believe this beautiful complex is actually on a piece of land that was literally a dump at one time.
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07-19-2019 , 08:49 AM
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I guess MGC cracked down on them selling chips outside of cage at separate table, so line to cash out was long. Up to Encore to adjust and open more windows.
I was there last night and the cashier line got ridiculous at points. When I bought chips (after work rush time) there were 2 windows open, with one cashier servicing chip runners much of the time. At cashout there were only 3 open because a supervisor/manager stepped in, but the line was still pretty long and slow and I ended up selling to two people in line so I could GTFO.
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07-19-2019 , 10:06 AM
I experienced the same. Got there around 1030pm, signed up at the host and was 40th on the list. About 15 people in line for chips. Called my name when I still had 4 people in front of me in cage line. One cashier focusing on fills and another on players. Manager opened a window and it started to move. Both cashing in and out I had great cashiers that quickly got through the exchange, so they just needed more windows.
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07-19-2019 , 10:11 AM
Are safe boxes available yet?
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07-19-2019 , 10:48 AM
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From what I've heard, they don't allow running it twice outside of the high-limit room stakes
Running it twice is allowed in all timed games. In addition to the VIP room you can run it twice in 5/10NL as well as 5/5PLO.

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Originally Posted by Lattimer
They tried that out for a bit some time ago at, uh, I forget, Borgata or Aria maybe? It didn't last long, got too confusing.
The creator and marketer of this game sold his idea on many Florida rooms to run on a trial basis. He hired the Mizrachi Bros to play in these games to help market. When they played in the game it was generally run as 2/5 when they weren't and this owner was recruiting players he'd drop it to 1/2 to attract them.

It was dropped from The Isle in part from this guy (not from the Miz Bros) harassing players from other games to try MAP which drew complaints from the patrons. I was literally approached a half dozen times over a 2-3 day period. I watched some and it was brutal as players were still using their phones and slowing the game down, confusing which hand they were playing, etc. Total trainwreck.

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