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07-15-2019 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sam1chips
I hate to be “that guy” but the previous trip report didn’t list it...

Are they still doing the parking validation and/or 1 red card point for parking?


Validate at poker check in desk prior to exit (as of 2:30am Sunday, anyways.)
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07-15-2019 , 01:53 PM
Regarding the cell phone signal, there is a whole category of products and solutions for this problem. It's common in newly built or configured office buildings to have technicians testing signals and adjusting equipment to optimize the signal throughout the building. So Wynn can (and I assume will) fix the problem.
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07-15-2019 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
There are two issues right now. One is that the systems aren’t integrated and the other issue is that point balances are just disappearing.
Or the 3rd of squeezing every penny from its customers to make their quarterly numbers so the stock price doesn’t take a hit. It doesn’t pass the smell test that a month into operations on top of the additional prep time leading up to the G.O. that their rewards system would still be “broken.” Chasers had theirs integrated with Poker Atlas quicker with 99%+ less manpower.

https://whdh.com/news/lawsuit-encore...slot-winnings/

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Encore allegedly “paid its customers odds of 6 to 5 when a player is dealt a blackjack when Massachusetts law clearly and unambiguously states that a player who is dealt a blackjack shall be paid at odds of 3 to 2,” the lawsuit stated.
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“When a slot player cashes out his or her winnings at a ticket redemption machine positioned throughout the casino, these machines only pay out in whole dollar amounts, without paying change, and without instruction on how to obtain the balance,” the lawsuit said. “The unredeemed change, therefore, is never returned to the player and is simply added to Encore’s coffers.”

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07-15-2019 , 02:18 PM
Shoot, I forgot to mention the parking validation in my trip report.

When you enter the parking garage, the machine that gives you a ticket has one button to get a ticket, and a slot that says its for your red card. What would putting a red card in there do?

When I left, I asked the cage how the parking validation worked, and she just pointed at the main signup desk. I asked for parking validation from the employee there, and she just took my parking ticket and gave it back after a bit and said I was all set. I don't think I even had to give her my red card, IIRC. When I went down to pay at the machine on my parking floor, it just said I was all set, I didn't have to put a dollar in, or my red card. So I guess it's just free? But how did the lady at the desk know if I played for an hour or not?

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Originally Posted by JStunna
Fyi, when you drive into the garage and drive down to level 3 and take the right at the bottom of the ramp, then turn right again, you’ll see Casino West signs, and if you continue to drive straight a few more feet, you’ll see the Casino North entrance signs.
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Originally Posted by boltonflats
Like mentioned above...level 3, make right, drive almost to the "back" and you'll see signs for north elevators on the left. Very convenient when taken to mezzanine level. Let's you off at the mens bathroom in the back of the poker room.
Sweet, thanks!
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07-15-2019 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Or the 3rd of squeezing every penny from its customers to make their quarterly numbers so the stock price doesn’t take a hit. It doesn’t pass the smell test that a month into operations on top of the additional prep time leading up to the G.O. that their rewards system would still be “broken.” Chasers had theirs integrated with Poker Atlas quicker with 99%+ less manpower.

https://whdh.com/news/lawsuit-encore...slot-winnings/
No idea where that lawsuit is coming from. I've seen my buddy cash out at ticket redemption and get offered a ticket with the coin amount to redeem at the cage and the gaming regulations clearly list 6:5.

As for Poker Atlas, Chasers did have the advantage of setting up with them from the get-go so I don't think there was any integration other than the restaurant/bar figuring out how they wanted to accept the vouchers printed by Chasers whereas Red Card system was already their system in Vegas and elsewhere.

I don't remember exactly how I used my comp dollars at Encore Vegas to pay for my meal, but I did have to leave the restaurant and go back to the poker room to have the floor manager do something ("release" my points?) then go back to the restaurant to use my Red Card. So it isn't a perfect system either with or without Poker Atlas. I went again last night and honestly forgot to look into my comp dollars again. I only drink at the tables, I mostly play later at night so I don't eat. I'm basically saving up my comp dollars for a big date with my wife or if they ever have some form of entertainment I want to buy tickets for/partner venue I can use my comp dollars to buy at.
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07-15-2019 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy
Or the 3rd of squeezing every penny from its customers to make their quarterly numbers so the stock price doesn’t take a hit. It doesn’t pass the smell test that a month into operations on top of the additional prep time leading up to the G.O. that their rewards system would still be “broken.” Chasers had theirs integrated with Poker Atlas quicker with 99%+ less manpower.

https://whdh.com/news/lawsuit-encore...slot-winnings/
1. There are major casinos out there that have never integrated poker rewards with the rest of the player rewards, and have been separate since day 1. It wouldn't be unprecedented if Encore went that route too.

2. MGM Springfield pays 6/5 BJ and has been open for nearly a year. If there is truly a law on the book prohibiting this, where have the plaintiffs been the past year?

3. Foxwoods, and I'm sure other casinos, do this. You bring it to the cage, pretty simple and obvious. If you want to argue it's not, well... when you cash out your ticket from the slot machine, how do you know where to go with it? What, there's a sign that says Ticket Redemption? Well for all I know, that's where you go to pick up show tickets. Also there's a sign that says Cashier Cage. So that excuse doesn't hold water. IMO I've always thought it's brilliant on the casinos' part to do it this way, exactly because people won't bother, and I think it's perfectly legal too. Was there a lawsuit when casinos moved from cash/coin to TITO for slot machines?
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07-15-2019 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mind Reader
Shoot, I forgot to mention the parking validation in my trip report.

When you enter the parking garage, the machine that gives you a ticket has one button to get a ticket, and a slot that says its for your red card. What would putting a red card in there do?

When I left, I asked the cage how the parking validation worked, and she just pointed at the main signup desk. I asked for parking validation from the employee there, and she just took my parking ticket and gave it back after a bit and said I was all set. I don't think I even had to give her my red card, IIRC. When I went down to pay at the machine on my parking floor, it just said I was all set, I didn't have to put a dollar in, or my red card. So I guess it's just free? But how did the lady at the desk know if I played for an hour or not?





Sweet, thanks!
They're not super tight with the parking validation. I've been scanned at the desk and I've also been given a comp ticket to scan by a floor manager. No questions asked. Pretty sure you could walk into the room and ask for one and get it, even without playing poker. It just isn't their concern, it seems.

If the free parking eventually goes away, yes you could use your red card to pay for parking at whatever rate they're offering when that happens.
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07-15-2019 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA
No idea where that lawsuit is coming from. I've seen my buddy cash out at ticket redemption and get offered a ticket with the coin amount to redeem at the cage and the gaming regulations clearly list 6:5.

As for Poker Atlas, Chasers did have the advantage of setting up with them from the get-go so I don't think there was any integration other than the restaurant/bar figuring out how they wanted to accept the vouchers printed by Chasers whereas Red Card system was already their system in Vegas and elsewhere.

I don't remember exactly how I used my comp dollars at Encore Vegas to pay for my meal, but I did have to leave the restaurant and go back to the poker room to have the floor manager do something ("release" my points?) then go back to the restaurant to use my Red Card. So it isn't a perfect system either with or without Poker Atlas. I went again last night and honestly forgot to look into my comp dollars again. I only drink at the tables, I mostly play later at night so I don't eat. I'm basically saving up my comp dollars for a big date with my wife or if they ever have some form of entertainment I want to buy tickets for/partner venue I can use my comp dollars to buy at.
6 to 5 variant is only for 1 or 2 deck blackjack dealt from a deck in the dealer's hand (i.e. not from a shoe, regulations very specific). For traditional 6- or 8-deck BJ the regulations state that BJ is paid at 3 to 2.

https://massgaming.com/wp-content/up...ck-2-11-19.pdf
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07-15-2019 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jpsychlady
It is the rule there. Multiple floors have verified
Oh man, that's half my game, talking heads up. Seriously? You can't have a conversation if you're heads up?
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07-15-2019 , 03:00 PM
For those of you looking for cheaper food, Drugstore, located near the main entrance by the carousel, has several sandwich and salad options under $10, that don't suck.
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07-15-2019 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankInGeneral
6 to 5 variant is only for 1 or 2 deck blackjack dealt from a deck in the dealer's hand (i.e. not from a shoe, regulations very specific). For traditional 6- or 8-deck BJ the regulations state that BJ is paid at 3 to 2.



https://massgaming.com/wp-content/up...ck-2-11-19.pdf
Yeah I saw that too, but what are they alleging that the casino is paying 6:5 on every bj? Because I know for a fact people have found and played 3:2 there. Encore Boston Harbor Casino (Everett, MA) - FAQ in OP
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07-15-2019 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lordkjun
For those of you looking for cheaper food, Drugstore, located near the main entrance by the carousel, has several sandwich and salad options under $10, that don't suck.
Wow thanks for the tip, I probably would have never wandered in there otherwise. I'll check it out

https://www.encorebostonharbor.com/shops/the-drugstore
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07-15-2019 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by desire
Oh man, that's half my game, talking heads up. Seriously? You can't have a conversation if you're heads up?
I’ve been admonished by players and a dealer for talking to my opponent late in a hand heads up. This is literally my only complaint with the room. Well...that and no watermelon juice, but I digress.
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07-15-2019 , 04:36 PM
How is $5/$10 at Encore? Enough randoms to even out the regs?

Also, is it significantly better on weekends compared to a work night, or nah?
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07-15-2019 , 05:42 PM
First BBJ got hit. Str8 flush over Str8 flush. Loser had 2c3c. This was at 3/6 limit
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07-15-2019 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mind Reader
How is $5/$10 at Encore? Enough randoms to even out the regs?

Also, is it significantly better on weekends compared to a work night, or nah?
I played 1/3, 2/5, and 5/10 all night Friday into Saturday. The 5/10 players really really really like to 3-bet preflop very light (Unless they saw me as a weak player which is a possibility). They also love to auto raise the flop after you c-bet (Again, it could be because they saw me as an easy target) . So your skills will be tested at 5/10 and for a higher amount of money, at least mine were. I moved back down to 2/5 and felt more comfortable.

At 1/3 and 2/5, the players were your typical just learned how to play poker, standard play with a sign on there forehead. There are some good players playing 1/3 and 2/5 but the ratio is a lot lower than 5/10.

I would just play both. If you don't feel comfortable at 5/10, simply move to 2/5.
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07-15-2019 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sam1chips
I hate to be “that guy” but the previous trip report didn’t list it...

Are they still doing the parking validation and/or 1 red card point for parking?
Most TRs ITT have reported that parking was free. One could probably assume that parking is free unless mentioned otherwise in a recent post.
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07-15-2019 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JStunna
Most TRs ITT have reported that parking was free. One could probably assume that parking is free unless mentioned otherwise in a recent post.


Although I resigned from my position as Head Parking Attendant, I can still verify that it is free
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07-15-2019 , 08:22 PM
Self Parking is free with the poker validation ticket.
Note that Valet parking is not free with validation ticket.
This used to be the case before, but not any longer.
If you want to park valet then you can use your red card and is only $1 comp.
Which is a great deal specially if you stay for a whole day. $1comp > $49
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07-15-2019 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mind Reader
Trip Report: I played 10.5 hours on Saturday, my second time there since the grand opening

Overall I find this place amazing and the poker heaven we've been wanting. I usually play at Twin River and this place is better in every conceivable way: Comfier chairs, better (brighter) lighting, better food, better dealers, WAY better floor, better games, better things to do and see when you need a break, no players getting testy and yelling at each other causing a commotion, and most importantly no terribad 80's music playing on a loop at loud volume that causes players and dealers alike to sing along when their jam comes on.

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Commute & parking - Coming from the Worcester area at 6pm on a Saturday, I hit zero traffic until I got off 93 and just had to make my way from there to the parking garage (lots of traffic lights). In the garage I couldn't find any signs that said "North Casino Entrance" but I found I think it was "West Casino Entrance" so parked near there and that elevator took me up to outside Fratelli's I believe, which was easy to head to the poker room from.

Signup - This was my first time using Poker Atlas, and holy hell is it game-changing. I signed up during my commute was I was ~30 minutes away, and was basically seated immediately when I arrived. Two thumbs up! Pro Tip: If you just signed up for a Poker Atlas account the same day, the nickname you chose for yourself won't be on the list (I guess they vet it for profanity?), so I was on the list for example under my initials with the last 4 of my phone number which is guess is what I got auto-assigned until my chosen nick is cleared.

Chips/Cage - As I walked off the escalator I heard an announcement that they were selling chips at a table right next to the cage, which I easily found and instantly had all the chips I needed. Great! Whenever I went to the bathroom during my session I looked at the cage and the lines never seemed CRAZY long; When I cashed out around ~7am there was basically no line. Once I got up to the window, cashing out was WAYYY quicker than opening day. On opening day, I only cashed out $400 (4 complete rows of reds) and the cage employee counted every stack, had to wait for validation from 2 people, she triple-counted the four hundred dollar bills, etc - it was brutal. THIS time, I cashed out for $3,327 using a mix of all denominations in 2 trays, and the entire process took like a fifth of the time as that opening day experience. She counted one stack which was good enough to confirm every other stack was legit, and while someone else did have to come over to verify, she begin collecting the cash while they were verifying so as soon as they did she staying paying it out. Basically, I have zero problems with my cage experience this time.

Food - I ordered the chicken caesar salad and it was good. Now granted, it's hard to mess up something so basic, but the chicken actually had a really good marinate or dry rub on it, and the lettuce and everything else was completely fine. Nothing special, but got the job done - the only problem was that it wasn't very filling; later I got the chicken fingers & fries platter which is OVERfilling. Amazing that these two meals are the same price considering the massive swing in calorie intake. You get 4 huge chicken fingers, 2 pieces of texas toast, and entire bin of fries, plus ketchup, bbq, ranch, and cole slaw. I couldn't even finish it. I think both meals are overpriced at $17, but for me it was worth it to just keep playing (and I wanted stuff I could eat with a fork entirely)

Dealers - In my 10.5 hour session, I probably had ~18 unique dealers? Out of those, 2 were very slow, while every other one was either completely adequate, or exceptionally good. The best dealer we had actually dealt our table for over an hour because no one came to replace him after 30 minutes. Overall it seems the dealers here are going to be fine and the extremely slow ones will get better if they haven't already.

Waitresses - There wasn't a ton of drinking happening at my table, but it did seem like every time anything was ordered it came at a reasonable time, and they seemed to be nearby to take orders at a reasonable time. It was a super busy Saturday night so it's not like they were a constant presence or anything, but I didn't hear anyone complaining about drinks at my table, which happens most every night at any Twin River table

Action - My table was great! Only a few other good players to have to worry about, and a pretty steady flow of tourists and other inexperienced players cyling through all night long. Occasionally late into the night we'd get down to 6 players with 3 empty seats for a while, but then another $2/$5 table would break and we'd fill up again. I have no idea what it's like here on a random work night as opposed to a busy Saturday night, but on this day you could just play a solid tight aggressive game and print money.

Not sure if any chip pics have been posted ITT yet, but I snagged a pic of my stack shortly before I cashed out and you can see each chip denomination in it



You’re missing the $1000, $5000, $25,000 and $100,000 chip denominations sir. Just saying Encore Boston Harbor Casino (Everett, MA) - FAQ in OP
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07-16-2019 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tableclown
I played 1/3, 2/5, and 5/10 all night Friday into Saturday. The 5/10 players really really really like to 3-bet preflop very light (Unless they saw me as a weak player which is a possibility). They also love to auto raise the flop after you c-bet (Again, it could be because they saw me as an easy target) . So your skills will be tested at 5/10 and for a higher amount of money, at least mine were. I moved back down to 2/5 and felt more comfortable.

At 1/3 and 2/5, the players were your typical just learned how to play poker, standard play with a sign on there forehead. There are some good players playing 1/3 and 2/5 but the ratio is a lot lower than 5/10.

I would just play both. If you don't feel comfortable at 5/10, simply move to 2/5.
Thank you very much for this, this is extremely useful
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07-16-2019 , 11:23 AM
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You’re missing the $1000, $5000, $25,000 and $100,000 chip denominations sir. Just saying Encore Boston Harbor Casino (Everett, MA) - FAQ in OP
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07-16-2019 , 12:56 PM
Went again last night.

1) Floor confirmed that talking about the hand or exposing even heads up in any game at any stakes is not allowed "basically all the cash games are run like a tournament". When I mentioned that I've seen it allowed and read posts about it happening often in bigger games he shrugged as if to say that dealers aren't always consistent in rooms.

2) Parking garage now has the space counters so that when you're entering you can see how many empty spaces are on each level. Green lights on the ceiling throughout the garage also indicate the location of empty spaces.

3) Tried to check my comp dollars with the poker host and a slot machine. Host and manager reiterated that the systems aren't integrated yet but that our comp dollars are accruing. Slot machine showed $0 in Comp Dollars.

4) Had one guy at our table try to commit a very nice, novice player to a $200 raise with no cards UTG at 1/3. Player A had started to rack up, folded his cards and before Player B acted Player A pushed two stacks of red forward. Player B folds, dealer see the stacks and asks Player A "what's that?" Player A asks to "cash out" (color up). The villain asked the dealer "doesn't that have to be a raise even though he doesn't have cards?" Dealer said no, but villain wasn't satisfied. Dealer doesn't take the color and Player A leaves. Villain calls floor and floor acknowledges that if the player hadn't said color up before pushing the stacks forward it would be a bet even without cards IF the bet influenced action.
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07-16-2019 , 01:17 PM
I have zero problem calling out villain as a scumbag here. IMO the only one with a legitimate complaint here would be Player B, but if that's me I let it go no matter what I was holding. I'm not going to punish someone for a procedural mistake, especially for that amount.

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07-16-2019 , 02:03 PM
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Went again last night.

1) Floor confirmed that talking about the hand or exposing even heads up in any game at any stakes is not allowed "basically all the cash games are run like a tournament". When I mentioned that I've seen it allowed and read posts about it happening often in bigger games he shrugged as if to say that dealers aren't always consistent in rooms.
Weird had the floor tell my table yesterday this rule had been lifted and talking heads up is "allowed to a certain extent". This occurred after the dealer stated no talking. Happened around late afternoon early evening at 1/3.
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