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02-10-2020 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cal617
Not to beat a dead horse, but I believe the overwhelming majority of people who go and park at the casino are there for some form of casino-related business. It could be to buy something from the Drugstore with their hard-earned compdollars, visiting a restaurant, redeem a promo (like picking up a blender or playing their "Hunt for $10,000" game where "everyone wins" [which just translates to a $5 coupon to Bru]), watching a performance, participating in one of their masterclasses or "experiences," staying at the hotel, going to the nightclub, playing table games, playing slots, playing poker, or any other thing that goes on at the casino. They are all valid reasons for being there, and none of these are more valid than another. Putting a minimum 3 hours of play for someone to come and redeem their compdollars or pick up their blender or play a game that mostly yields $5 for Bru or to toss in their "Winners Celebration" entries or to eat at a restaurant, etc. changes those offers altogether, doesn't it?

I guess they could re-enable the ticketing machines at the parking entrance, get that nice backlog of traffic trying to enter the casino while people fumble to get their ticket and wait for the gate to come up and down individually, validate the tickets for everybody doing any of the above, re-enable all the parket ticket payment machines again, get those nice backlogs of people waiting to go through the payment machines as people fumble around to find their tickets and (if applicable) payments, get those nice backlogs at the exits as people fumble around to scan their tickets and wait for the gates to go up and down individually, deal with the people stuck at the exit because they lost their ticket or forgot to pay or forgot to get validation - all because a small number of people might be exploiting the parking for non-casino business. But is it really enough of a problem to come to that solution?

How many parking spots do you think would be freed up by doing all of that anyway? How big, quantitatively, is this "parking for non-casino business" problem?

There is always the 1 compdollar valet parking option plus whatever dollars tip. That's practically free ... but it's not exactly free, and that's apparently enough for people to pass on it.
But poker comps don't work for valet, right?
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02-10-2020 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
I know of people that live in apartment buildings and now park at Encore to save the $150-200 fee their building charges them every month. They just move it around in the garage a couple times a week hoping no one notices it. They also don’t have to worry about shoveling it out if it snows.

I think cal is underestimating the amount of people that only use Encore as a free parking garage.
If it's an actual thing people are doing, I am definitely surprised to hear about it. They take rideshares back and forth to their apartments, and that still costs less than their apartment's fee?
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02-10-2020 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by skik210
But poker comps don't work for valet, right?
They could and should correct that. They do treat poker players like a whole separate group. Separate floor, separate cashier, separate Red Card booth or whatever they're calling it now, separate elevator, separate restroom, separate soda fountains, separate buses, separate schools, ... Just sayin'.
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02-10-2020 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cal617
If it's an actual thing people are doing, I am definitely surprised to hear about it. They take rideshares back and forth to their apartments, and that still costs less than their apartment's fee?


One guy I know says the fee at his place is 200 a month to park a car. He only uses his car when he visits family out of town so most of the time it just sits. He lives within walking distance to a T stop so he mostly gets around by train or walking. He said when Encore opened up to free parking he decided to move his car there so he doesn’t have to pay anymore. When he wants to grab his car he takes the shuttle from Wellington.

I know 2 others that also leave their car there but I’m not sure of their arrangements. They must save money somehow to keep doing it
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02-10-2020 , 10:11 PM
Even if I lived right up the street and could walk to the Encore garage this sounds like way more hassle than it's worth to essentially save $6.70/day. If I didn't use a car often enough to justify $200/month to park it vs leaving it at a casino, I would just get rid of the car and rent one whenever I needed one.
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02-10-2020 , 10:28 PM
I’m in agreement with you but there are definitely people that don’t think it’s a hassle and are doing it. If you add those people in with those like Rhody that leave their car there for events at the garden or Fenway, it will certainly take away a decent amount of spots.
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02-10-2020 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
I’m in agreement with you but there are definitely people that don’t think it’s a hassle and are doing it. If you add those people in with those like Rhody that leave their car there for events at the garden or Fenway, it will certainly take away a decent amount of spots.
Well, keep the rake high and my spot that would be taken for 10+ hours remains open.
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02-10-2020 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cal617
They could and should correct that. They do treat poker players like a whole separate group. Separate floor, separate cashier, separate Red Card booth or whatever they're calling it now, separate elevator, separate restroom, separate soda fountains, separate buses, separate schools, ... Just sayin'.
Yo could we not make segregation jokes/comparisons? Really not funny.
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02-10-2020 , 11:21 PM
Well, speak of the devil, here it is - the plan for you to give your money to the casino without setting foot into it.

https://news.yahoo.com/cant-touch-re...191803403.html


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Originally Posted by svindaloo
Yo could we not make segregation jokes/comparisons? Really not funny.
Sorry about that. Segregation is what it is though, isn't it? Just not racial segregation.
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02-10-2020 , 11:47 PM
I think maybe they are better off going back to charging for parking. It didn't bother me as a poker player knowing I'll get comped after a few hours. Last week i drove around for a half an hour in the garage until I found a space. Coming from Cohasset i thought if i went to Twin River I'd already be seated at a table by the time a space opened up.
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02-11-2020 , 01:09 AM
Bikeshare is the way to go folks. One of those Bluebikes can get you to Encore from anywhere along the Freedom Trail in downtown Boston in less than 20mins regardless of how bad traffic/garage conditions are...
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02-11-2020 , 02:11 AM
There will always be people who take advantage of any system. So many people fill up on water to take home at the Poland Springs in their offices and so forth there will always be the folks who park at Encore for extended period of times and hog up spots for others who wish to spend $ in the establishment. I think we're poker enthusiasts if we're on a poker forum discussing things and we are more aligned with their ideal customers who will play and give $ (rake/time) on a regular basis. I think all this VIP/Tier Levels, etc... should have a way to realize oh, this person plays poker 20+ hours a month or something like that and should be able to park on Level 1 and 2 in reserved spots or if this person plays a lot of slots/table games they can also use those reserved spots. Have Level 3 and 4 for people visiting for shows or restaurants and better parking attendants to assist with things. I see bike security guards in the parking lot and many traffic helpers but none have ever been useful/helpful and more often just slow things down too. Zero enforcement of the electric vehicle spots doesn't help either because I've carpooled with someone who has an EV and he can never find an open spot for EVs.
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02-11-2020 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by boomBAMboom
Bikeshare is the way to go folks. One of those Bluebikes can get you to Encore from anywhere along the Freedom Trail in downtown Boston in less than 20mins regardless of how bad traffic/garage conditions are...
The ferry seems like a decent option too, but I have never taken it
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02-11-2020 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerGuvnA
Even if I lived right up the street and could walk to the Encore garage this sounds like way more hassle than it's worth to essentially save $6.70/day. If I didn't use a car often enough to justify $200/month to park it vs leaving it at a casino, I would just get rid of the car and rent one whenever I needed one.
Word of mouth sometimes has unintended consequences. For every poker player who comes to Encore once they heard about "free parking" you have others looking to exploit the casino once they become aware. One example is the discussion I had with my wife last month when she blamed the casino for charging for parking (she is not a regular casino goer) so I shared my opinion of this potentially opening up the door for free carpool parking, free event parking, etc. I found out the other day that a few people from her office in Boston were discussing using Encore to car pool for free. I immediately told her to get involved as it isn't ethical or fair to the casino goers.

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Originally Posted by jh12547
I’m in agreement with you but there are definitely people that don’t think it’s a hassle and are doing it. If you add those people in with those like Rhody that leave their car there for events at the garden or Fenway, it will certainly take away a decent amount of spots.
Def wanted to address my justification for not having a moral issue with me using the garage. There is a good chance I'm playing a session either before and/or after the game I'm attending. Even if I'm not playing that particular day I'd consider a regular customer using a free spot here and there far different than non-casino goers purposely utilizing a loophole without any intent on giving the casino any business.
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02-11-2020 , 02:50 PM
Does the lot across the street ever get filled? The one time I had to park there it was 90% empty. Having to pay $20 to park isn't ideal, but it's pretty inline with rates in the city.
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02-11-2020 , 09:29 PM


Does anyone know what the 40 points are and what can be done with them?
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02-11-2020 , 09:37 PM
They're essentially slot play cents. You can cash in 500 points for $5 slot play. They're earned from playing machines (slots and VP). The website also says table games but I've found that to not be true.

The rate is awful. For slots it's $5 coin-in per point. So You have to play through $2500 to get $5 slot play, or 500-1. To compare, at Foxwoods it's $200 to get 1 point (which is $1), so 200-1.
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02-11-2020 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
They're essentially slot play cents. You can cash in 500 points for $5 slot play. They're earned from playing machines (slots and VP). The website also says table games but I've found that to not be true.

The rate is awful. For slots it's $5 coin-in per point. So You have to play through $2500 to get $5 slot play, or 500-1. To compare, at Foxwoods it's $200 to get 1 point (which is $1), so 200-1.


Yeah that blows. I earned these by running $200 through a slot machine so I could earn ONE comp dollar to pay for valet.

I’m kinda over Encore.
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02-12-2020 , 02:59 AM
Comp dollars shouldn't be zero, so maybe delayed?


FYI, electric wok giveaway on Thursday.
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02-12-2020 , 09:03 AM
She only earned 1 comp dollar, which she used to pay for valet. So $0 is correct.
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02-12-2020 , 01:01 PM
Estimates for this weekend's $1100 tournament? 300 - 400 entries?
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02-12-2020 , 01:38 PM
150-200
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02-12-2020 , 01:48 PM
200 would be successful for a $1100 tourney.

Estimates for the $600 500k guarantee?
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02-12-2020 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cal617
Comp dollars shouldn't be zero, so maybe delayed?





FYI, electric wok giveaway on Thursday.


I’m not sure if you’re aware of this so I’ll post again-comp dollars cannot be earned through poker. The points that I’ve earned from poker are not accessible on this screen. Only comp dollars, earned through slot or pit games, can pay for Valet.
It’s just an all around, needlessly complicated, twisted system
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02-12-2020 , 04:35 PM
It seems like they've been pretty conservative setting the guarantees so far in most of their tourneys, and 200 would be the breakeven point, 150 would be a pretty large overlay. I'd imagine around the 300 mark? Although I guess this is a new price point for them, so who knows.

Also, does anyone know the rough translation to earn compdollars? Jpsychlady said $200 on slots, is that about standard?

Last edited by svindaloo; 02-12-2020 at 04:41 PM.
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