Good one.

hey thanks a lot for this summary!

You guys should ask motor city again. I don't know if the gaming commission will approve it right away or any of the logistics but I do know they have been slow lately and should have a table for you unless its a weekend...heck some weekends they aren't even full

Alright so here is an official summary of the mixed game up to this point based on what has been posted ITT and the PM's I have received...

The following players have said they would play in the game no matter what basically:
-TwoBlack9s
-MJACSROMA
-ScottyB
-MillsandDrew

And then we have....
-Pharoah (if we add 2-7 triple draw)

2 maybes who would possibly drop buy in we got in going regularly:
-JKondor (who lives in Windsor and has a tough commute)
-PotOddsRAC

And a couple question marks that I am not exactly sure of their status, perhaps they could clarify:
Pillsbarry- seemed interested in playing most games but had a difference of opinion on what games to spread (it wasn't clear if you would play the stud games)
TonyMark- Pretty much the same story as Pillsbarry

Other than that the general consensus seems to be that the game will be either 4-8 HORSE or 6-12 HORSE and possibly add 2-7 triple draw. But let's stick to that as what we are going to play instead of debating the games for another month. That seemed to be the games that everyone is willing to play for the most part and it will be the easiest to get new players in.

Also it seems that our best options for hosting the game are currently Northville Downs and Trip Kings, in that order. So someone needs to get into Northville and discuss this specifically with them as well as a decent rake structure.

If we could get a few more of the questionable guys to clarify their status then I think we would have enough people to start looking at a specific date to start this game.

I would be down for playing at like 11a on a weekend, downtown, if that helps the guys from Canada. However, if we play at greektown, it is highly unlikely that I will make it in the building, as the 13th floor has a great view of the street. Might have to go and walk along the edge for a while.

I'd be willing to play as long as long as its no higher than 4/8L and at NVD(very convenient for me). My non-hold'em games are pretty weak and its been years since I have played any type of stud game.

I am also planning on going up to northville today. I would be more than willing to talk to the Floor about it. What do you propose as a rake structure?

I am going out of town on Saturdy and won't be back for about a week, so it might be a good idea if I give NVD someone elses contact info as well. Feel free to shoot me a PM.

Also, if people are not willing to drive the Northville Downs or Trip Kings, which are about 10-15 apart, please speak up so we can schedule the game downtown.

I couldnt imagine anything over 10%/cap $5. Now, depending on how smart they are, this might not be bad. I would offer an hourly, but with the dealers not nec. being super fast/limit games taking longer, that might not be a good idea. I guess 10%/$6 wouldnt be bad either, but whatever. I have a feeling that the problem might be getting a license for the games. Maybe pillsbarry can chime in on how that works, or what games the general license allows for.

I think stud and razz need license. Quite possible draw games like 2-7 would need one as well.

I was honestly thinking 10%/$4-5 cap. $6 is insane for a limit game, imo. Northville always discounts rake at short-handed tables(which I think is to keep it going), so maybe they would be iwlling to discount an exotic game like HORSE to get people interested.

Hourly is a terrible Idea, I think. There are maybe 1-2 dealers who can deal a HORSE game up there. Even with those dealers, I think the game will move incredibly slow.

Yea I think we shoot for 10% $5, and nothing above $6. I think we could pull that off at NVD. Casinos are going to be looking to rape us imo.

As a side note I have vowed to never set foot in Greektown again and I'm not sure I am weclomed there anymore after my drunken rant about how bad the casino is after walking past security and refusing to show my ID while getting escorted off the premises. So yea, no Greektown.

I know that hourly is a bad idea, but I've heard of a few places take an hourly instead of a % rake in games like this.
The only way I will play this game in Greektown is if Tony is dealing this game the entire time and the floor doesn't look, ask, or touch our table, other than to fill seats.
TwoBlack9s and I are going to meet tonight, which means we are probably going downtown against my wishes (he kidnaps me), so we can ask the MCC at that time.

MCC is out of the question for me unless it is an afternoon game. I have been robbed twice leaving MCC and would rather not experience being held at gunpoint ever again. I have a feeling robbery is less likely to happen before sundown.

Oh wow. Trip report please...

Quit drinking and playing , you sir are a professional. And good luck. going to hit the pokers pretty hard this weekend.

Valet

So i will do a trip report later on. Also i will Post thoughts on 4 Aces tournament, and compare my thoughts on the differences between that and snookers tournaments.

Also i was thinking it would be sweet to have a home tournament with some great blind structures, unlike the structures of the tournament around the Detroit Area.
I figured it would be cool to find or help set up a tournament and maybe have some sort of a Prize pool for maybe one or two people to play some bigger event. And have it where the prize pool is shared with the rest of the people who participate in the tournament. Kind of like staking the best players who participate in the tournament.
Kind of wonder what you guys thought about the idea. I know of other people who did it for the Wsop Main Event. My buddy was in the running for the seat.(altho i am not sure what ever happened).
And he was no where as good of a player as i am sure the rest of us are.
Never been a part of this because i grinded online alot. And figured it would be easier to win a seat threw the steps program. Also i think maybe picking a Heart Land poker Tour tournament or A tournament in Hammon Indiana would be a better pick.

if not lol i might have to resort to this.

http://www.championshippokerassoc.co...s/pictures.htm

Pretty sure I've been to the place in the third photo. Some guy's house I believe.

First time was in 2005. I went there with a couple friends because we were all finally 21 and wanted to become millionaires(obv), parked in a dumb spot and got mugged walking back to my car. Perp realized I am -EV in pit games and took my wallet with $17 in it.

Second time still freaks me out to this day. It was dec 2007. I had been playing poker for about a year online. My buddy told me he was heading down to MCC to play poker and I decided to tag along. He drives since I am on probation for an OWI(drunk driving). It was my first time ever playing live poker, so I only brought $200. I remember I was super nervous playing; however I went on a super heater. I bought in for $100 and within an hour I was on a $700 stack. I ask floor if I can move to the 2/5 table that has a seat open. He says sure and I sit with $500. Again, within an hour I m sitting on $2000. Biggest heater of my life. I finally was 100% relaxed(pretty ez when your up that much). Around 10pm my buddy tells me he is leaving to go to greektown. I tell him I want to stay. He tells me he will come pick me up when I call him. Cool.

About an hour later, I get tangled up in a pot with another player who is sitting on ~$1k and was a super aggro fish. I have him covered. Forget preflop action; however, I had 77 on Q74r board. All the money went and i rolled my 77s. Guy jumps out of his seat and rolls QQ. Oopz? I bink a 7 on the turn and the guy begins to berate me. I more or less tell him to **** off and that **** happens in poker. Like I am going to fold a set on that board? Guy rage quits the poker room as I am stacking his chips.

Anyways 1am rolls around and I am sitting on about $3500. I decide its time to call it a night and call my buddy. He tells me he will be there in about 20 minutes and to meet him in front of valet. I cash out at the cage and make my way to the exit. About 5 minutes later, my phone rings and its my buddy. My phone was getting really ****ty reception, so I walked outside and paced about 30-50 yards. All of a sudden I hear the scuffle of feet. Before I can turn around to see whats going on, I am shoved to the ground and I hear a gun being cocked and feel it being pointed at my head. Guy tells me "Gimmie all your ****." I(on the verge of ****ty my pants), tell the guy to take whatever he wants. He reaches in my pocket and grabs my wallet and I feel all the weight off my back, so I start to roll over. Guy is standing over me going through my wallet. I catch a glimpse of him and he kicks me square in the stomach. I roll up on my knees and am clinching my stomach. He then must have pistol whipped me, because I don't think a fist or boot would feel that way on the back of my head. It didn't knock me out; however, it sure as hell cleaned my clock. I just laid there for what seemed like an hour as the guy ran off.

I look over and there is a group of about 15-20 people who were just watching, including valet attendants. I tried getting up by my head was so ****ed up that I couldn't balance myself. As I was trying to get up, a couple police officers were approaching me. They were apparently just out of sight when it happened. I thought the whole incident lasted at least 5 minutes.. however, everyone who saw said it only lasted maybe 20 seconds at the most.

To this day, I am 110% sure the guy who robbed me the second time was the aggro fish I 1 outered for $1k. I told the police exactly what he looked like and where he was sitting. I am unsure of what came of it. All I know is that I never got my money back and the casino was less than helpful with the report. Nor did they compensate me in any way. I have not been back to MCC since.

Actually if you guys think about it. You could always have your own Round by Round cash game. And if we had a tournament, not only do we have better blind structure. we are also freerolling what ever tournament it is.
I guess you could do a point system. everytime you play you get x amount of points. Maybe the winners (top 3 or something) get extra points. then we agree on what percentage the rest of the people get. example 20-30% of the prize won. then after the tournament you could have the cash game afterwards. maybe a rake or maybe no rake. (rake could also go towards prize money so another player could play same event.)
Also maybe some money goes towards home owners house. (we could alternate). I mean some could go towards Drinks and food, Pizza ,burgers ???.
the benefit would be no money has to go to any of the Charities or Casinos. it could be recycled into our own little poker community.

Your guys thoughts. Also if there is one already going on maybe we can add people or something.

how was it? you didn't go back? and thoughts about their structure? And thoughts on their play.

Villageidiot I am down for something like you described, might be hard to get organized though.

Bananajammers, wow. That is a ****ed up story. Makes me not want to go to MCC anymore. Up until about 4 months ago I have never played there in my life. I would always joke around and say I wasn't going to risk my life to play poker. Reading that story makes me not want to go there.

IMO if you are that confident it was the guy you 1 outed you should have taken much more action against him. They would have been able to prove that pretty easily with all the cameras, they could track the guy all the way through the casino.

Ill head to northville today, but just as is put together I won't play at nvd. I have a huge problem with the owner of their poker room (heather) when I was running other rooms she tried to strongarm a few of us.

Also, my whole point for playing this game is to NOT play hold em

In a six game mix, does 8 hands of HE really matter? I mean, i dont want to nitpick here, but come on.
The Aces Gaming person (naming the person like in the post above is technically an infraction) has had a run in with someone I am fond of, and it didn't end well. I have my own problems with her, but I think that just because a person behind the scenes sucks, doesn't mean that we can't get a game going. She would probably be the person that would be able to help the most, so lets not bash her character too bad here.

On a side note: Does anyone have a Marketing Degree or experience? I could use a quick consult. PM me.

Disease> Distaste for MCC Security. You lose.