I am sure you know me if you saw me... I only play every once in a while but I'm a heavier set guy with glasses. I was in last week and actually berated the owners wife, funny story actually lol.

I'm sure they are desperate enough to let us roll w a reduced rake a few nights a week since it's doing them a favor...

Keep y'all updated.

I hate to be a nit but paying even money isn't Greektown rules lol. I assume you mean all the other rules are the same like being allowed to double any hand, split up to 4 times double after split

Trip kings is down for whatever we want to do. They just need to know the games we want to play and they will make sure the dealers are up to speed on the games. They will make plaques for each game so we know what we're playing...

TB9, how many ppl do you have on your list? PM me and we can get this game rolling....

Everyone interested in playing the mix game at trip kings, please post something or PM me. I know there was quite a few of you that played in the first game that I will be sending PM's to if I don't hear from you very shortly.

This game promises to be a great game... If you haven't been to trip kings you should go see it. We will have a semi private room with a few tvs and real nice chairs. The dealers are pretty competent IMO.

Just my opinion but I was thinking of these game, as they are fun and are a nice break from NLHE or PLO:

Razz
Badugi
Baducey
Crazy pineapple 8/b

Any other thoughts?

Well I'm chaldean and the stereotype is true. It applies to me to a point, but some are better than others. There are some chaldeans that are probably very strong live players, and better than a lot of the people that post here. Some are just lose passive chasing draws and trying to hit flops, and others are LAG and know who to target. Actually within the chaldean poker community the most popular "theory" is finding the right player to target and just attack the **** out of him.

Don't disrespect ATM eric, he's a beast.

The only guy that I'd prefer to play with over him is Raj, unfortunatly Raj isn't around anymore because he was smart enough to realize everyone would talk about how big of a fish he was, so he stopped playing.

You get my drift?

The problem with Trip Kings is some of the dealers and floor are very unprofessional and they have a lot of pseudo homeless people begging for money, being shady to players who have won.

Pharaoh: I only know the west side clubs, do you have any other ideas? Remember wherever we go has to be able to accommodate our buy-ins (if we do a charity room)

I think, unfortunately, the issue of unprofessional dealers and homeless people(can you say greektown?) are going to be anywhere. The issue with casinos is the mgcb has to approve whatever games we play, and we all know what that entails.

The thing that steers me to trip kings is that 1) I will basically pick which dealers will deal for us, which will cut down on the incompetence, 2) we will be treated like kings(pardon the pun) since they have such a tough time Getting multiple games to run. One thing that will work in our favor is they are very motivated to try things and they will promote the hell out of the game.

With all of that being said, though, I'm open to other options...

i was referring to northville downs when i said paying even money on blackjack. the river goes by greektown rules.

Condolences to your family regarding your Cousin. Even if he was an idiot I'm sure this sort of thing affects the whole family.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110...-custody--dies

It's a little far for me, but what you describe is what they told us at GTC. You can have the dealers that know the game. You can spread all the games you ask for. In the end, they couldn't deliver. They were at least nice about it.

What was the reason they wouldn't spread the stud games at Greektown?

Not registered with the gaming commission.

I have never seen a good greektown dealer be anywhere near competent... If this ame was to run anywhere, we need to be guaranteed the dealers at least know how to deal it. We can worry about policing the game ourselves...

In my opinion, the dealers at charity rooms are for the most part much more competent. They are way faster and know what is going on.

If not trip kings, where could we hold the game? Like I said before, I'm open to other places, but where?

Has trip kings ever regularly run a game besides 1/2 20min-50max? I've been there about 3-4 times and maybe saw a 1/2 20min-100max once. Tried to get a 2/5 started and we had 5 players and they wouldn't start the game 5 handed.

As for the mixed games, I'd be down to come out and play some, but IMO the required games are Badeucey, Badacey, 2-7TD, A-5TD, O8, Stud8, Razz. Also what stakes/rake structure were they interested in running?

I don't think anyone openly calls Eric a fish. I don't want to either. Every time he sucks out on me, I calmly say nice hand. However, it is extremely tilting when he goes south when im stuck $500.

Don't think I ever played with Raj.

I normally go in the evening and they have a 50-200 game pretty regularly...

The stakes are up to us. The rake also has to be negotiated but we hold the cards. They would love to have the only mixed game in the city. They have been pretty motivated to advertise the things they try.

I was thinking we start at around a 6/12 game and depending on the ppl that show up we can adjust the stakes. I'd play up to 20/40 but I don't think we'd get enough interest.

Hey fellows....been away for a while....where to begin............

I would be interested in the mixed game,,would prefer to keep the stakes limit anywhere from 2/4 to 6/12. A friendly game with pots that can still get rather big. Razz, Ohama, pineapple and holdem...not a bad mix,,your not going to find a dealer to handle stud.

ATM Eric is indeed a gambling fish, and you have to be careful what you ask for when playing him. I once lost a $900 pot against him, i flopped a set of kings,,someone bet, he raised,,, i shoved....he has no pair, no nothing,,turn gives him a gutshot straight,,,,river fills the gutshot.......so sic...but i digress.....
From the story about going south and the BJ...it sounds like it could have been handled better at every step, but to start with it still remains a players responsibility to protect their cards and in my opinion their game and if something is going on that is fishy, or suspect, you as a player need to speak up and make a stand, or shut up and play. The dealer saying he didnt see it, may be totally true and sincere, but if a dealer cant keep track of something simple like this, he must not being paying attention very well.

Oh,,,ND BJ is even money, no pushes at all,,dbl down on 10 or 11 only. when they first started, it was even money and take pushes on 17 and 18, they worked their way down to none.

Trip kings may look nice on the surface, but how they run is a little shady,,,always has been,, going back to Garden Lanes. I would still like to try and play the mixed game,,, we will see what they come up with.

On a quick side note, Zach/Big Al is still new to being a floor, cut him a little slack and give him a chance. By all means, please challenge him and bring to light any problems. he will do the right thing as best to his ablility...... he's a good kid and he does have alot of love and intergrity for this game. Dont forget, he won the inaugural Heads-Up champions ship for $3k at ND back in May.

Id be more than willing to play with Mark if he is interested in playing a game. I know 2B9 has gotten a few PM's about the game, with people saying that closer to the D was more desirable than 3K. Now, I am headed to see 2B9s at Auschwitz later on tonight. Maybe I will converse with him more.
I will talk to Lauren (one of the 3K guys) and see what he has to say about this, beyond what Scotty has talked to him about.
Also, after my insane complaint against one of the floors at MGM, I can contact the Card Room Manager there and see if they will spread the game. The only problem with that is that the game will probably be a $6 or $7 rake. IDK what 3K can do for us, but when I swing through Canton, I'll find out.
Mark, any chance ND would be willing to spread the game? I know that you retired a little while ago, but I am sure you know the floors/owners still. Could we get a 4/8 game?

I was thinking that our list should only include the following games, due to no. of players/game, and peoples willingness to play the games. Also, we may have to deal with what games the MGCB will allow the casinos/charities to spread.
List of Games:
HE
O8
Stud
Razz
Stud 8
2-7TD

I am willing to play just about any stakes that people want to play. Once the mean age rises over 50, I will only play stud up to 8/16. My thought was that we could start 4/8? That was if you play like 2B9, it should only really cost you 160-240. If we want to kick it up later, then we can do that too.
2B9: Any response from Jose about the game?

Jose is not interested. Anyone here from AKQJ10 lately? I sent him a pm about the game. He was the main guy that organized the game at Greektown a few months ago. He hasn't posted in this forum in awhile.

Only worry w northville is the lack of $$$ they have available to use for another cash table.

The problem with MGM is that they don't have dedicated poker dealers... They freak out trying to chop a pot, imagine if they had to deal 2-7. Their heads may explode...

Any places on the eastside? Im just thinking out loud but I think our best option is a charity room looking to attract a steady guaranteed cash game.

I am waiting to hear from Michelle at umichiganpoker. She may have some thoughts as well.

Edit:
Sorry, last post was a personal attack on someone, cant have that here. I dont want to get another infraction.

ND will spread the game and Jeff would help. heck,, there are brand new $4 pink chips in the back room, make the 2/4 real easy. As far as chips go,, i thought i heard they were getting a third charity for the weekend days. (thurs-sun)?

back in the day, ND had an awesome RxR on thursdays that attracted alot of omaha players. they have the players, and the room, so we shall see.

IDK if I would actually play in a 2/4 game, I cant lie. I think that it would have to be 4/8 for me to play in it. I know that as a poker player you are supposed to adjust to the stakes that you are playing, but I have not been able to successfully do that.
Is Jeff the one from Hazel Park?

I'll throw this out to everyone, and if you want to PM me a response, great, if you want to respond ITT, cool too. 2Black9s and I are in relatively constant contact, so between us, I think that we have everything covered. To be honest, I think he just wants to have my babies... Weird, I know.