Clearly you have too much free time on your hands here 2b9.
Im down for the following games:
Limit:
HE
O8
Stud
S/8
Razz
2-7 3x
No Limit:
2-7 1x
NLHE

Personally, I would like to refrain from playing plo or plo8. There are quite a few plo games and a few plo8 games in and around town.

Yes I would prefer all limit games, preferably 5-10, or 6-12. I will play any games Roma wants to though since he is on self destructive life tilt and consistently losing 2-3 buy in's for weeks straight.

How considerate of you. **** off.

O8 has played in a ton of local rooms. Would like to see his rankings.

If the rankings are from toughest rooms to fishiest rooms in NLHE I would rank:
1. Snookers
2. Big Beaver Taverns (small sample)
3. Motor City
4. Northville Downs (small sample)
5. Sunnybrook
5. The River (small sample)
6. Greektown
7. Four Aces
8. Legends in Matemora (small sample)
9. Mavericks in Port Huron
10. Johnny G's (small sample)
11. Pampas (small sample)

The tough rooms at the top of the list you can find tables once in a while with no spewy fish. The rooms at the bottom of the list hardly ever have more than two solid players at the table.

Where would Dan's place fall on this list?

You might have a better chance getting a discussion going about charities here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...0/index39.html

I always find it amusing too when they call 2/5 the big game. I also found it amusing at MC when they call the 5/10 the big game.

You're right about the arabic/caldean players at MGM. I think there are 2 reasons for that. One is that they used to have Arabian nights theme on Friday so that kind of explains itself. Secondly, several of the more popular guys have been banned from MC and Greektown so MGM is the only room left and they have lots of friends that join them there.

#1 without doubt.

I need to move up to where they respect my raises...

I got raped by the variance train tonight. Dumped 500 at northville downs.

Significant hands:

AKdd vs ATM machine (eric if you guys know him?)

I flop NFD + 2 overs + gutter. Jam it in on flop and don't improve. -200

About an hour later i limp utg with AKs. A couple people call. ATM eric raises to $55. I shove all in for $160 effective. Eric calls and BB calls. Obv i lose to eric 83dd for the flush. WP SIR -400.

About 30 minutes later I am steaming hard. ship $75 UTG+1 facing btn straddle + call with AKo. Scoop pot.

Next hand I ship AA utg. Get called by atm eric. Double up to ~150.

About an orbit later ATM eric busto. I get KK utg+1 facing 1 limper. I raise to 8 with about 120 behind. Flop is J92r. I c-bet pot. turn is blank. 1st to act donks out and i ship. he calls. river brings 4spade 9. I ask if he has spade and he says no. I flip overpair thinking im good. Old man slow rolls me with the suckout K9.

LIFE TILT.. -500 IN 4 HOURS FML LOL.

Also, I lost a lot of repsect for NVD.

During the middle of my -500 meltdown, ATM eric decided to take a break. He took money off his stack to go play blackjack. At this point he had everyone covered by $400 at least? Didn't bother me as long as he was planning on sitting back with all. About 20 minutes later he comes back to the poker table

After he "busted" at the poker table he goes back to blackjack table. He reaches in pocket and brings out at least $200.


This ****bag took at least $200 off the table to play blackjack. When he sat back at poker he prolly put about $50 back and left ~$200 on his pocket. Mentioned it to floor and he just said "welp, next time you see it, let me know." I am def going back tomorrow and going to let Al/Zack know. I honestly think its bull****. it didn't affect me; however, the guy that busted him could have got at least $100 more if eric played his whole roll.


The guy is a total fish; however, the fact that I am stuck $500 with him holding +400 of my money makes me entirely upset. he just pockets his money and decides to play BJ?

the guy is a reg. he is totally +EV for me; however his mannerisms at the table put me on life tilt. Shoudl I hammer the floor to 86 him or keep quiet to keep him in the game?

Last mix game fell apart basically because of GTown's unwillingness to work with us. From what I understand the group showed up on day 1 and GTown floor contradicted the understanding and said that the stud games wouldn't run.

I'd like a standard HORSE mix. All limit of course.

Chalk up the session to variance, although the first hand you posted might not be the best way to play against this fish. Rather than having the fish banned, say something the next time he goes south so the money stays on the table. I would wait until he returns rather than when he leaves the table BTW. Better luck next time, bro.

So wait. You "lost a lot of respect for NVD" because of an action by a player? An action that wasn't even caught by another player at the table until AFTER the fact? At the time that you noticed the action what would you have had the Floor do other than issue a warning? From your post, it sounds like you didn't even bother to mention it to the Floor. How do you expect them to know of an issue if you don't even mention it to them and instead elect to badmouth the venue on-line?'

Sounds like you have a problem with a "Fish" not the venue.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone who won $500 in a 1/2 game post something like "I lost respect for XYZ Venue last night."

Any chance he won it at blackjack? I cant believe people play that game. Its 100% unbeatable with the dealer taking ties. They could deal face up and it still couldn't be beaten! I don't want to derail but I guess its good to have someone like that in the game

Had a fun night with PohkerIZPhun and got to meet Villiage Idiot at Johhny G's last night.

I was kinda drunk when I posted last night, sorry.

When he took the chips off the table to go play blackjack, I asked the dealer why people were allowed to take money off the table. Dealer said he didn't see.

Once he busted, I saw him go back to the blackjack table and go digging in his pockets. He may have won money at blackjack; however, he brought way less back to the poker table than what he left with. Once htis was realized, floor was notified. Floor shrugs and says they have to be notified when it happens. wtf? It happened and you were notified.

Every time I play with this guy, he dumps anywhere from 1k-3k. Obviously the players want him to keep coming back; however, it seems floor lets him get away with **** that he shouldn't just because he is a regular.

Also last night after the fish leaves, guy calls my 10 high river bluff. I say nice call and go to muck face down. dealer says "He called, you must show." what? I can muck my cards whenever I want, right? I don't have to show.

Well like I said, I'd be willing to organize a weekly mix game. If you guys want, PM me if you're interested with the days you prefer to play and the top 3 places you would prefer to play and I'll see if I can make something of that. Also, why would they not play stud? The dealers didn't know how to deal it? Wouldn't surprise me.

Don't know if this is true or not but it made me laugh.

LOL.

Yeah, sat in the "big game" the other night... the play is atrocious, and there is a ton of money being thrown around... Although it's not a "big game" (like a 10/20 or 25/50), it's still huge by comparison to 1/2, because it plays as a 2/5/10 game (with the straddle) about 85% of the time

Been there done that!

Who got banned for what? Cheating/collusion?

Still a little confused - did you notify Floor when the guy returned to the table or when he eventually busted and left a second time? Sounds like the Floor was saying that he needed to be notified when the guy left (or at least when he returned to the Table). If he returned light it is pretty near impossible to prove later in the sequence of events. It isn't like the Floor can now say: "Hey, that cash you just pulled out of your pocket should have been on the table. Go back and play more Poker."