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Originally Posted by Blue Devil
I was going to do a strat thread but most of these guys play in the same places and therefor play similar players in the same environment and I thought there was value here.
I said V1 was a weak player because he was very transparent. If he flopped top pair he would lead out. If drawing he would check call. If you applied pressure to his top pair mid kicker he visibly wouldn't know what to do. My guess is that he doesn't usually play 2-5 and he played pretty face up because of it. His bet sizing is also indicative of his hand strength so top pair big kicker was where I had him.
I'm not a fan of the check raise here either for the same reasons. I just don't like check calling in 3 way pots either. I think in some cases the donk lead on turn looks stronger than the c/r on flop. A lot of these guys view it as me protecting top pair of something which can increase value as well.
Oh yea, you'll absolutely get some villain and game specific advice. But there are some really really bright posters in the LLSNL forum that'll never see this here. Their input is also very valuable.
When a transparent player overbets the flop like that I expect a TPgk type hand, or something that's otherwise scared of a draw coming in. I DON'T ever expect to see a draw here.
A set is a possibility, but QQ should've raised pre, and you've got blockers to 77 and 99, so they should be pretty rare.
This is exactly the problem with playing OOP. as much as you may dislike the plan in a general sense, c/c keeps a lot of bluffs and weaker hands putting money in the middle. I'm not sure how a donk on the turn reps anything credible, which is good if in induces action from worse hands.