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02-01-2013 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
Thanks guys for mentioning Santino's. I had a good time there last night (operation suck out successful).

At least one Snooooookers dealer, which was nice. Nice booze & bar too.
Was thinking of joining you, but I ended up having some family plans. Glad you enjoyed it. Did the 2/5 get going?
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02-01-2013 , 02:41 PM
2/5 ran from maybe 9:30 to 2:00. It was a fun game. Couple of ship-it-holla boys, but the rest were not quite of that caliber. I was again the least skilled guy in the room, but I'm used to that.
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02-01-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
2/5 ran from maybe 9:30 to 2:00. It was a fun game. Couple of ship-it-holla boys, but the rest were not quite of that caliber. I was again the least skilled guy in the room, but I'm used to that.
Shoving your chips all in pre flop is a good way to couter the lack of skill. No one can out play you if the money is already in.
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02-01-2013 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Shoving your chips all in pre flop is a good way to couter the lack of skill. No one can out play you if the money is already in.
Aaaaand I've got a game plan for my next session!
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02-01-2013 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Atarirob
60/40 leaning towards yes. Ill play whatever, but i think NL-PLO-PLO8 would draw more people. The other games seem to scare everyone
+1, I would like to try triple draw.
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02-01-2013 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
+1, I would like to try triple draw.
I love triple draw and so does Caveman and Lighttower. Would be fun to get some different games later in the evening. I'm not a big fan of badugi but I would play if everyone else was interested.
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02-01-2013 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
I usually say we'll see it on TV. Or I say I would tell you but you seem like a nice person and I'd hate to lie to you


+5 professionalism points
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02-01-2013 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
2/5 ran from maybe 9:30 to 2:00. It was a fun game. Couple of ship-it-holla boys, but the rest were not quite of that caliber. I was again the least skilled guy in the room, but I'm used to that.
Does this game run frequently? I'm not up to speed on all the charity rooms but I'm trying to find some 2/5 action somewhere.
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02-01-2013 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggger5x
Does this game run frequently? I'm not up to speed on all the charity rooms but I'm trying to find some 2/5 action somewhere.
They say it runs most every Thursday. I definitely preferred it to Motor City.
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02-01-2013 , 05:27 PM
I love the weekends. So a drunk guy sits at the tables and is splashing around for a couple orbits. I want to get his chips before he busts so I defend J3cc otb vs his $10 mp open. 5 ways to the JT6ssx flop, he rips in $163...next to act folds and I snap bc it's apparent both players behind me are folding. He tells me he has a T and I win. Thought it was pretty humorous.
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02-01-2013 , 05:30 PM
cashin them social security checks and hitting the tables HARD
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02-01-2013 , 05:31 PM
Happy Birthday SA.
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02-01-2013 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1game
I love the weekends. So a drunk guy sits at the tables and is splashing around for a couple orbits. I want to get his chips before he busts so I defend J3cc otb vs his $10 mp open. 5 ways to the JT6ssx flop, he rips in $163...next to act folds and I snap bc it's apparent both players behind me are folding. He tells me he has a T and I win. Thought it was pretty humorous.
You are a Jedi. Gold.
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02-01-2013 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Happy Birthday SA.
march 1 is a friday too
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02-01-2013 , 07:05 PM
[QUOTE=Omahtime than Kasparov. Don't get me wrong, I love Kasparov's game and everything he has done for the game. Just don't think there has been anyone like Fischer in his prime. Maybe Carlsen will change that.[/QUOTE]

Fischer was dominant in his time and Carlson is very good but not way above all his peers
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02-01-2013 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dalmon123
Fischer was dominant in his time and Carlson is very good but not way above all his peers
And both act with lightning speed compared to your Omaha decision making ability.
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02-01-2013 , 07:23 PM
Since I know I will get brutally honest answers here I want to ask your thoughts about this particular hand at MCC/2-5 since it sparked quite a bit of debate...

The hand before I lost ~150 after checking my straddle and flopping bottom two with 5 3 off. Nit reg flopped a set but I checked river so no big deal but its worth mentioning I just lost a hand.

My image is TAG. I have ~1100 when hand starts.
Villian 1 ~380/weak player and villian 2 ~700/never really bluffs but wont fold a hand like KQ here.

4 limps and I check BB with 9 7 off. Flop Q97r

I check, which is not what I would have normally done. I was still thinking about the last hand and Impulsively checked I guess. Villian 1 bets 40 into a 30 pot. folds to villian 2 who calls. Whats my play and why?
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02-01-2013 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk
They say it runs most every Thursday. I definitely preferred it to Motor City.
Yea I enjoy MCC enough but if I could find some regular 2/5 games around Ann Arbor I would love it. I live in Jackson so the drive gets brutal.
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02-01-2013 , 07:48 PM
Are there any good rooms in Jackson?
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02-01-2013 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian


+5 professionalism points
Another 3 and I get a free meal... That's quite a pic. Lol
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02-01-2013 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
Another 3 and I get a free meal... That's quite a pic. Lol
I finally went on the bravo poker app and it is awesome.
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02-01-2013 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Devil
Since I know I will get brutally honest answers here I want to ask your thoughts about this particular hand at MCC/2-5 since it sparked quite a bit of debate...

The hand before I lost ~150 after checking my straddle and flopping bottom two with 5 3 off. Nit reg flopped a set but I checked river so no big deal but its worth mentioning I just lost a hand.

My image is TAG. I have ~1100 when hand starts.
Villian 1 ~380/weak player and villian 2 ~700/never really bluffs but wont fold a hand like KQ here.

4 limps and I check BB with 9 7 off. Flop Q97r

I check, which is not what I would have normally done. I was still thinking about the last hand and Impulsively checked I guess. Villian 1 bets 40 into a 30 pot. folds to villian 2 who calls. Whats my play and why?
Call. Re-evaluate on turn. Look to get stacks in with a 7 or 9 obviously. Torn on donking a brick vs checking and calling a reasonable bet.

c/r looks VERY strong and will fold out a lot of their hands, except the few that have you beat or are in pretty good shape (JTs/T8s w/3-flush). AQ isn't likely to be out there, KQ will fold to the c/r.

Hard to say how to proceed without a better handle on V1 ... "weak player" doesn't really mean anything. Does he bet too often with middle pair? Does he overbet his made hands? Call too often?

A strat thread will probably get you better responses btw.
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02-01-2013 , 08:31 PM
Since I know I will get brutally honest answers here I want to ask your thoughts about this particular hand at MCC/2-5 since it sparked quite a bit of debate...

The hand before I lost ~150 after checking my straddle and flopping bottom two with 5 3 off. Nit reg flopped a set but I checked river so no big deal but its worth mentioning I just lost a hand.

My image is TAG. I have ~1100 when hand starts.
Villian 1 ~380/weak player and villian 2 ~700/never really bluffs but wont fold a hand like KQ here.

4 limps and I check BB with 9 7 off. Flop Q97r

I check, which is not what I would have normally done. I was still thinking about the last hand and Impulsively checked I guess. Villian 1 bets 40 into a 30 pot. folds to villian 2 who calls. Whats my play and why?
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02-01-2013 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Call. Re-evaluate on turn. Look to get stacks in with a 7 or 9 obviously. Torn on donking a brick vs checking and calling a reasonable bet.

c/r looks VERY strong and will fold out a lot of their hands, except the few that have you beat or are in pretty good shape (JTs/T8s w/3-flush). AQ isn't likely to be out there, KQ will fold to the c/r.

Hard to say how to proceed without a better handle on V1 ... "weak player" doesn't really mean anything. Does he bet too often with middle pair? Does he overbet his made hands? Call too often?

A strat thread will probably get you better responses btw.
I was going to do a strat thread but most of these guys play in the same places and therefor play similar players in the same environment and I thought there was value here.

I said V1 was a weak player because he was very transparent. If he flopped top pair he would lead out. If drawing he would check call. If you applied pressure to his top pair mid kicker he visibly wouldn't know what to do. My guess is that he doesn't usually play 2-5 and he played pretty face up because of it. His bet sizing is also indicative of his hand strength so top pair big kicker was where I had him.

I'm not a fan of the check raise here either for the same reasons. I just don't like check calling in 3 way pots either. I think in some cases the donk lead on turn looks stronger than the c/r on flop. A lot of these guys view it as me protecting top pair of something which can increase value as well.
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02-01-2013 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Devil
I was going to do a strat thread but most of these guys play in the same places and therefor play similar players in the same environment and I thought there was value here.

I said V1 was a weak player because he was very transparent. If he flopped top pair he would lead out. If drawing he would check call. If you applied pressure to his top pair mid kicker he visibly wouldn't know what to do. My guess is that he doesn't usually play 2-5 and he played pretty face up because of it. His bet sizing is also indicative of his hand strength so top pair big kicker was where I had him.

I'm not a fan of the check raise here either for the same reasons. I just don't like check calling in 3 way pots either. I think in some cases the donk lead on turn looks stronger than the c/r on flop. A lot of these guys view it as me protecting top pair of something which can increase value as well.
Oh yea, you'll absolutely get some villain and game specific advice. But there are some really really bright posters in the LLSNL forum that'll never see this here. Their input is also very valuable.

When a transparent player overbets the flop like that I expect a TPgk type hand, or something that's otherwise scared of a draw coming in. I DON'T ever expect to see a draw here.

A set is a possibility, but QQ should've raised pre, and you've got blockers to 77 and 99, so they should be pretty rare.

This is exactly the problem with playing OOP. as much as you may dislike the plan in a general sense, c/c keeps a lot of bluffs and weaker hands putting money in the middle. I'm not sure how a donk on the turn reps anything credible, which is good if in induces action from worse hands.
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