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03-04-2012 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerBottlez
I'm all for some expansion but is their really room for 22 more casinos in Michigan? It seems overly excessive imo.

yea seems like allot. i live like 20 mins from Downtown and like 5-15 mins from 4 other charity rooms so im i don't need anymore options lol.
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03-04-2012 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boutrous11
I also don't think 22 casinos is doable, but I think that was just the article trying to be dramatic. Not all proposals will be approved, but it definitely looks like there is interest to expand Michigan gambling. Why can't Michigan be the next Macau or the Vegas of the Midwest?

I think Nye saying that the market cannot expand is having a very narrow view of what external demand can do to bring gambling dollars to Michigan.
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03-04-2012 , 05:08 PM
The idea to put a casino or two by the Airport near Romulus is a great idea though and always has been.

If people can pass time before their flight with a close place to gamble it only seems like common sense.
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03-04-2012 , 05:34 PM
Why not directly at the airport? Get some out of town $ to stay in Michigan as people pass thru.

That and on Belle Isle seem like no brainers to me. But I also can't believe Detroit can't think of anything better than a bunch of parking lots and a 20 foot wide river walk to take advantage of waterfront property.
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03-04-2012 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2
I also don't think 22 casinos is doable, but I think that was just the article trying to be dramatic. Not all proposals will be approved, but it definitely looks like there is interest to expand Michigan gambling. Why can't Michigan be the next Macau or the Vegas of the Midwest?

I think Nye saying that the market cannot expand is having a very narrow view of what external demand can do to bring gambling dollars to Michigan.
Guys like Nye disgust me. He is going to spew rhetoric about protecting the Constitution when all he is interested in protecting is the interests of a couple of tribes and existing casinos. Demagoguery at it's finest.
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03-04-2012 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Caveman921
Well I posted the schedule on Facebook without any comments. I wonder if she'll get the hint...
LOL Nice.. Hopefully it works.
I'm going to make my package up tonight, and then I'll link it here as well.

I'm going to PM you my cell number since it changed since the last time we spoke.
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03-04-2012 , 07:21 PM
i'd love it if we could get ONE casino downtown to host a real tournament series....
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03-04-2012 , 08:04 PM
How about a new Red Wings home and adjacent casino in Oakland county?
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03-04-2012 , 08:36 PM
**** Ohio State
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03-04-2012 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
**** Ohio State
Medium rare, is wine inlcuded with dinner? 1982 Petrus
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03-04-2012 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
**** Ohio State
Too little too late for my picks? How does OSU win on the road there?
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03-04-2012 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
How about a new Red Wings home and adjacent casino in Oakland county?
Summit Mall would be a great spot for both.
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03-04-2012 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Caveman921
Well I posted the schedule on Facebook without any comments. I wonder if she'll get the hint...
lmao..gl
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Originally Posted by Jamie Platinum
$400 pot when my Js5s got there on a AsQx10s board.
Representing Motown!!!

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i'd love it if we could get ONE casino downtown to host a real tournament series....
Even one of the casinos could start their own series of events. This would be profitable for them. The Borgota and numerous others have series with descent turnouts. The way the charity rooms are grooming new mtt players I'm sure the satellites would be jammed!
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**** Ohio State
word
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03-04-2012 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by woowoo
Even one of the casinos could start their own series of events. This would be profitable for them. The Borgota and numerous others have series with descent turnouts. The way the charity rooms are grooming new mtt players I'm sure the satellites would be jammed!
There are a few problems, but I will try to name the big ones for you
1. Costs.
1a. The start up costs are huge. Only place that is going to have a budget to run a series is MGM.
1b. Advertisement. You see a lot of this for the WSOPC, CPC, Borgata Opens, etc. This costs money up front obviously.
1c. Venue. More on the opp. cost later, but still, you have to have space for the tables. I am sure that you can open a ballroom up, but that brings up another point.
1d. Equipment. You have to have several different chip sets, cards, tables, chairs, vending options, etc.
2. You have to have competent (and enough) staff to run the floor and enough dealers to deal the cards. Don't forget about cashiers as well.
3. Opportunity Costs. Is the casino going to lose money by spreading a poker tournament instead of slots, table games, cash games? Are they going to lose business from the regular table games to a poker tournament, where their income is fixed. Also, is the casinos expected monetary gain/person/hour going to drop to an unacceptable level. Basically, is the casino going to spend too much money entertaining people, or providing a tournament, without the chance of getting enough money to pay for the services.
4. Licensing. Is there a problem with playing poker in a ballroom or meeting room? This costs money too.

I think that this is why no one has tried to do something like that. And yes, the satellites would be awesome.

Just my 3 cents.
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03-04-2012 , 11:00 PM
I've never seen or at least noticed this particular scenario happen, maybe it's standard and I don't know, but when I registered for a tournament on Carbon ($10 + $1), first place was just over $800. As more players late-reg'ed it became less top heavy and by the end of registration first was just over $650. Is this legit?

Regardless, first time playing on Carbon today and it's exponentially better than Bovada.
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03-04-2012 , 11:05 PM
Yes, it happens occasionally.
I miss the days when 10+1 was at least 1k for first... O i miss the star.
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03-05-2012 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i'd love it if we could get ONE casino downtown to host a real tournament series....
THIS!!!^^^^^^^
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03-05-2012 , 02:09 AM
Important post regarding payout information in my CPC thread. Please reply back by PM and not in the thread.

I have one last chance to regain the overall point lead tomorrow. I'm down by only one point with 37.5 trailing Ryan's 38.5 and only one tournament left in the series. The $240 NLHE starts at noon and if I can mincash we will add $50k more to the final payouts. Hopefully I can have a story book ending with a "come from behind" victory!

I will be updating every level on my Twitter
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03-05-2012 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jose313
Important post regarding payout information in my CPC thread. Please reply back by PM and not in the thread.

I have one last chance to regain the overall point lead tomorrow. I'm down by only one point with 37.5 trailing Ryan's 38.5 and only one tournament left in the series. The $240 NLHE starts at noon and if I can mincash we will add $50k more to the final payouts. Hopefully I can have a story book ending with a "come from behind" victory!

I will be updating every level on my Twitter
GL bro!
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03-05-2012 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jose313
Important post regarding payout information in my CPC thread. Please reply back by PM and not in the thread.

I have one last chance to regain the overall point lead tomorrow. I'm down by only one point with 37.5 trailing Ryan's 38.5 and only one tournament left in the series. The $240 NLHE starts at noon and if I can mincash we will add $50k more to the final payouts. Hopefully I can have a story book ending with a "come from behind" victory!

I will be updating every level on my Twitter
Good luck man! win that Camaro
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03-05-2012 , 01:36 PM
GL JOSE!

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i'd love it if we could get ONE casino downtown to host a real tournament series....
Totally agree. I think they would get plenty of participation too, I mean the HPT at soaring eagle had 500+ entrants, so there is obviously demand for tournaments in michigan. And I think it would attract more recreational gamblers. Sigh, maybe the Toledo or Cleveland casino will host some.
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03-05-2012 , 01:57 PM
In terms of the tournament series, I think that it would have to be a casino downtown hosting a regional series if anything. I dont think that creating something from scratch like the Chicago Poker Classic is something that is going to happen. However, a WPT Regional like the one going on at PARX right now is something to be considered. I would say yes to a WSOPC, but those are all on CET properties and there is a CET property across the river, so making an exception wouldn't make any sense for CET. CET is Caesars Entertainment, formerly known as Harrahs.

How would people feel about a series at Firekeepers? Not like the HPT where there was 49293 satellites and 1 Main Event, but an actual series. I hate the HPT's concept because of the lack of volume. I know you can grind out Soaring Eagles SNG's and sell you satty seats and multiple package seats, but still, that is one hell of a grind.

As for Cleveland and Toledo, I doubt they do something until next years WSOPC, which I would hope one of them does something. Based on proximity, I would venture to say that it would be in Cleveland, but I have no idea of the size and space of that casino. All I know is that in terms of distance to major cities, other tour stops, and access, Cleveland works better in my eyes. This is mostly because you have a stop in Hammond and Southern Indiana, but nothing North or East of that until you have Chester (Philadelphia) and AC.
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03-05-2012 , 02:38 PM
O yes, GL to Jose and #team313 today.
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03-05-2012 , 05:56 PM
Interesting situation occurred today for me in the 2pm tourney at Snookers. Since I don't want to name names, I mentioned him on Twitter.

Here is a guy that I feel has donated more cash to me over the last 5 years than any single person in the state. He is rich and feels that poker is 100% luck. I can get him to stack off very easily. Never raises PF, will fold to a raise after a limp with less than 5bbs, always calls on the flop with any pair or draw and will check raise better every time, will limp in 65% of the hands as well.

So he's in seat 3 and I'm in seat 7. I raise his limp about twice a orbit. He is just bleeding chips to me left and right. I'm up to about 13k when I have a chance to shove his bet on the river that I'm sure he'll call. He has top and bottom and I hit a non-nut straight on the river.

So I think to myself, do I want to take his last 3k? (he bet 1700 on the river). I think to myself, "Well if I shove, he'll call and will be out of the tourney. If I just call he's still in the tourney. If he were to double up, I could start bleeding his chips again."

I decide to just call and take the 5k that's in the middle. He doubles up a little later and I manage to play badly against 2 guys that flopped flushes and then get my AA cracked later.

Has anyone else let someone stay in a tournament because you just have the best read in the world on them and they are by far the easiest in the world for you to play against? Am I a fool for doing it? The other 3k probably probably wouldn't have helped me in the end.
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03-05-2012 , 06:26 PM
I think that this is a losing strategy. If you have a good read on them, then it is probable that others have the same read and can take advantage of it. Also, why let a player stay in the tournament even if he is easy. What happens when he busts at someone elses hand? What happens when he runs like god and gets bunches of chips and knocks you out? I think that those are much more probable than you folding to him here and then milking him for more chips in the near future. I believe the phrase is that the risk is not worth the return. I would take the 3k and knock a player out. Of course, be cordial.
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