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08-04-2019 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by twoblack9s
Yea for sure. That’s exactly what I mean, you’ll be more profitable at 2/5. $40-$50 per hour is extremely achievable if you play well and play at good times, ie, avoid week days and try and table change whenever you can away from the really tight ****ty games. I’m talking about 1000 hours plus of course although you should have a reasonable idea of your win rate after about 300 hours. Also depends on your playing style, LAG is going to have bigger variance than TAG

3 betting at 2/5 will be effective and is not done enough at these levels.
Awesome, thank you for the advice.
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08-05-2019 , 10:03 AM
Good 2/5 chat ... If you just want to 'play' 2/5 during the day then MCC is normally your only option. Tons of regs with patterns you will quickly pick up on, but also plenty of gamblers who are hit or miss and willing to dump 3-5 BI if they start to get down early. MCC has plenty of table jumpers as well. I don't have much PM experience, but it seems that MGM reigns at night for both NL and PLO. Wish I could help you out more on that front.

Interesting that you would be inquiry about a staking arrangement. Not so sure you'll get much interest 'online'. It's sort of a chicken/egg spot. If you can show results, then why do you need a stake? But most people wont stake you without showing results.

IMO the jump from 1/2 to 2/5 in the Detroit area is fairly large. It's not fair to put a number on it, but let's just say that 40% of the 'crap' that you can get away with at a 1/2 table will be challenged at 2/5. So you will really need to make adjustments and 'better' reads on the spots since the damage hurts a bit more.

I wish you well ... keep us informed .. GL
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08-05-2019 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Good 2/5 chat ... If you just want to 'play' 2/5 during the day then MCC is normally your only option. Tons of regs with patterns you will quickly pick up on, but also plenty of gamblers who are hit or miss and willing to dump 3-5 BI if they start to get down early. MCC has plenty of table jumpers as well. I don't have much PM experience, but it seems that MGM reigns at night for both NL and PLO. Wish I could help you out more on that front.

Interesting that you would be inquiry about a staking arrangement. Not so sure you'll get much interest 'online'. It's sort of a chicken/egg spot. If you can show results, then why do you need a stake? But most people wont stake you without showing results.

IMO the jump from 1/2 to 2/5 in the Detroit area is fairly large. It's not fair to put a number on it, but let's just say that 40% of the 'crap' that you can get away with at a 1/2 table will be challenged at 2/5. So you will really need to make adjustments and 'better' reads on the spots since the damage hurts a bit more.

I wish you well ... keep us informed .. GL
Hey thank you very much for your input! I'm turning 21 on the 24th so I can't play downtown yet, but I will keep the thread posted.

On the note of buying action - I'm not asking for anyone to buy a piece of me, but someone who knows my game well approached me and claims he's confident that I'll do really well in the 2/5 games and said he wants to buy 20% of me with no make up. Considering I'm not "properly" rolled for 2/5, it's a juicy offer, as I'm not willing to risk going broke. I think I'm going to go with 2 + 2's advice and get my feet wet on primetime action with my backer's support, but play 1/2 on any non prime time hours. This will probably be more relevant in the winter as I give up EV in the football season because I'm a huge college football nerd and am happier playing less in exchange to follow the season religiously .
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08-05-2019 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boutrous11
youngbeak i took it down at qoh again last night! sick hand: 3 left. Me and Joe have 10 bbs each, other guy has 2. I'm sb, Joe bb. I have qq. I 3x. Joe shoves! icm lol. I call, he has 99. 9 in window... then queen. gg.
Lol, dude, save the rest of that run good for FK!
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08-05-2019 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
Hey thank you very much for your input! I'm turning 21 on the 24th so I can't play downtown yet, but I will keep the thread posted.

On the note of buying action - I'm not asking for anyone to buy a piece of me, but someone who knows my game well approached me and claims he's confident that I'll do really well in the 2/5 games and said he wants to buy 20% of me with no make up. Considering I'm not "properly" rolled for 2/5, it's a juicy offer, as I'm not willing to risk going broke. I think I'm going to go with 2 + 2's advice and get my feet wet on primetime action with my backer's support, but play 1/2 on any non prime time hours. This will probably be more relevant in the winter as I give up EV in the football season because I'm a huge college football nerd and am happier playing less in exchange to follow the season religiously .
Will that extra that he kicks in give you a big enough bankroll to play 2/5? If only another 20% is the difference between 2/5 and 1/2, have you considered sticking with 1/2 until you win enough to play 2/5?
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08-06-2019 , 05:11 AM
++ above ... What a fun time for you. Also good to see that you will try to maintain some balance. Do you have a 'day' job or are you taking classes? Try to search for both BRM and staking threads so you can read through that intel. Keeping things simple should help you play better poker. Make sure you keep your 'books' straight when tracking 1/2 v 2/5 play. If you're looking for a BR boost why not just let the Backer into the 1/2 action as well? GL

PS ... What experience does your Backer have with the 2/5 in Detroit? Will you be playing against them?
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08-06-2019 , 11:00 AM
In response to him buying action - it's an agreement that I can opt out of at any time. It's nice to have the insurance in case I get wrecked...If I feel comfortable after the first 50 hours or so I'll likely just opt out. I'm going to take the advice though of playing 1/2 primarily, but 2/5 during primetime!


@answer20 Yes, senior year @ U-M this fall, and yes I'm working as an RA and will do some economics tutoring as well. I have honestly kept track of every single session since I got serious about NL two years ago. The backer is a tournament player and PLO cash player who won't be playing in the games, but has experience with 2/5 downtown. I'm letting him buy action to start just to get my feet wet, so that if I have a 10 BI swing I'm only in for $4k and can comfortably just go back to 1/2.
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08-06-2019 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
I'm likely going to start playing 2/5 from now on downtown starting at the end of the month. I was told by one player that MGM is the only place I should play at and that Sunday evenings/nights are the best time possible to play, but that it runs every night. I was also told that the 2/5 game is realistically just as easy as an average 1/2 game. Is this consistent with what you know?

I don't think this is true at all. I personally feel if you play the same way as you did at a 1/2 game you'd have a hard time.

I play in the game all the time. There are def some smart players. Sometimes line ups are tough man.

Friday, Saturday are always the best days in terms of game being juicy. But there is going to be way more aggression on 2/5 tables though.


I run a vlog. Detroit Poker. My name is Brian.
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08-06-2019 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Beanfacekilla
I don't think this is true at all. I personally feel if you play the same way as you did at a 1/2 game you'd have a hard time.

I play in the game all the time. There are def some smart players. Sometimes line ups are tough man.

Friday, Saturday are always the best days in terms of game being juicy. But there is going to be way more aggression on 2/5 tables though.


I run a vlog. Detroit Poker. My name is Brian.
Hey Brian, I've seen a few of your videos, and actually anticipated watching more of your videos leading up to trying out 2/5.

I'm a very aggressive player (zero open limp range, almost exclusively overlimp only pp's, 3 bet liberally.) I don't expect to be a real winner right off the bat, but I have to move up at some point. I have a fair amount of 50 NL and 100 NL experience, so I have played solid players. There are also things that I don't do at 1/2 because it's 1/2 that I would do at 2/5.

Are Friday's during the day good at all?
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08-06-2019 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
Hey Brian, I've seen a few of your videos, and actually anticipated watching more of your videos leading up to trying out 2/5.

I'm a very aggressive player (zero open limp range, almost exclusively overlimp only pp's, 3 bet liberally.) I don't expect to be a real winner right off the bat, but I have to move up at some point. I have a fair amount of 50 NL and 100 NL experience, so I have played solid players. There are also things that I don't do at 1/2 because it's 1/2 that I would do at 2/5.

Are Friday's during the day good at all?

Generally the games on Friday are not super great until 8pm maybe, but they are grindable most times I guess.

The best games are going to be from 8pm-3am Friday/Saturday nights.
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08-06-2019 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Beanfacekilla
I don't think this is true at all. I personally feel if you play the same way as you did at a 1/2 game you'd have a hard time.

I play in the game all the time. There are def some smart players. Sometimes line ups are tough man.

Friday, Saturday are always the best days in terms of game being juicy. But there is going to be way more aggression on 2/5 tables though.


I run a vlog. Detroit Poker. My name is Brian.
I Agree. The lineup’s nowadays can be pretty gross.
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08-09-2019 , 12:46 AM
Brian is the guy with the huge Fro.
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08-09-2019 , 09:56 AM
Tournament Players ... $350 Black Chip Bounty this Sunday at FKeepers (Noon). Could be anywhere from 80 to 200 entries IMO. 20K stack with at least 1 re-entry through Level 8?.

Last time I played in this the winner had 23 bounties and took home $26K for first. So that one was a big one. There is a Bounty at GLake Sunday also and Hammond has had their $700 with four Day 1s running right now as well. Day 1D is Sat ... Day 2 Sun

So you never know what might happen ... FK is very solid as any of you know. GL
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08-13-2019 , 04:47 PM
oooh man the beats i took in the bounty at FK.
first three were for a bounty:
Ak <A4 allin pf
KQ <KJ aipf
99 < AK,108o all in on river board 2 7 q 9 6 rainbow
my last hand, near the bubble. 44<Q5o allin on turn. board 3 9 6 4 2 rainbow.
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08-13-2019 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by boutrous11
oooh man the beats i took in the bounty at FK.
first three were for a bounty:
Ak <A4 allin pf
KQ <KJ aipf
99 < AK,108o all in on river board 2 7 q 9 6 rainbow
my last hand, near the bubble. 44<Q5o allin on turn. board 3 9 6 4 2 rainbow.
Rough. I lost with TT on a QQT flop to pocket queens. Luckily he only had $200 at a 2/5 game. And spoiler, I did not hit the final Ten for the bad beat one time.
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08-14-2019 , 12:23 PM
Detroit Metro Airport police arrest professional poker player wanted for scamming travelers.
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08-14-2019 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Detroit187
Detroit Metro Airport police arrest professional poker player wanted for scamming travelers.
is this by chance the same guy that had a bbv thread about his airport scams in BBV a few years back? It might have been a thread in NVG or LVL about him getting arrested in vegas?, not a bbv thread he started, now that I think a bit more....
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08-14-2019 , 12:43 PM
No wonder he was hard to catch ... The photos in two articles I clicked on don't really match!!

Not the smartest guy if he went on Joey Ingram's podcast and spilled the beans either.

I love the 'tip' concept as well. Isn't there a data base for 'no fly' people? Like they couldn't flag that name on a flight manifest? I understand that they wouldn't want him nabbed in another airport/jurisdiction for a Detroit misdemeanor ... GL
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08-14-2019 , 02:10 PM
Also : did everyone hear about the guy at QoH peeping on people in the men's room ?
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08-14-2019 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Detroit187
Also : did everyone hear about the guy at QoH peeping on people in the men's room ?
But .... *why*?
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08-14-2019 , 02:18 PM
yes, did we not post it in here? dude dealt to me numerous times. he used to deal in Toledo too. thing I remember most about him was how sweaty he always was. makes sense now.
https://www.wxyz.com/news/man-who-al...troom-arrested
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08-14-2019 , 02:52 PM
Not to suggest that violence is the answer to things ... but I'd expect that peeping on dudes at the pisser would get your ass kicked pretty hard.
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08-14-2019 , 03:51 PM
Off topic, but does anybody know how the action is at MCC on Thursdays (2/5 preferably, 1/2 is ok)? Obviously not like the weekend, but is it decent?



Easy money
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08-14-2019 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Off topic, but does anybody know how the action is at MCC on Thursdays (2/5 preferably, 1/2 is ok)? Obviously not like the weekend, but is it decent?



Easy money
I haven't been there in a while, but the games are always grindable IMO. Come in around 6pm perhaps.

There will be some competent players sprinkled in there. Navigate.
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