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07-16-2019 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
I'd like to warn you guys about Player's Golf and Poker in Livonia, MI, both at 8 and Farmington, and Plymouth and Levan.

I have a really unfortunate story about last night.

I could tell it was going to be a problem right away, and honestly I regret not leaving. I heard using last names here is highly unpopular, so there was a player causing all sorts of problems last night. The least of the problems was that he was berating players every time he won a pot and taking sometimes minutes to act, because he was doing prop bets and socializing with other tables, yet was still being dealt in and his hand wasn't mucked even if he left the table mid hand.

This guy was doing cocaine at the table. Honestly, Idgaf about the coke. I don't personally do it, I don't care if you do, but if it disrupts the game it's a problem. It wasn't out of control, but he was adding time to his actions occasionally so that he could sniff the powder off his fingers. He announced several times that he had coke on him and was so happy to be doing it at the table....Floor did nothing. He took two players outside, sold them coke, the three of them came back 30 minutes later...Floor did nothing. The guy continued to cause a huge ruckus at the table, one of the guys he sold coke to warned him to try and be a little more under control, he says "watch this," calls floor over, calls floor a ***** (female dog if this gets censored,) and tells him he won't do anything....To my surprise floor does NOTHING. Thebartender had to be right around 21, no exaggeration everytime she brought him a drink he'd find an excuse to touch her breasts. First time she came over, she took his cup for a refill, he waited for her to bring it in to her chest, then he grabbed the straw and gave her right breast a quick feel and said "whoops, didn't mean to touch your boobs, they shouldn't just be there hahahaha." Every time after that he found a way to touch her breasts. The worst offense was when one time he blatantly just gave her breast a small backhand, even though he wasn't grabbing anything.

I have never been so disgusted in a poker game and that says a LOT, considering the trash that comes in here. I feel really guilty for not saying anything about what I consider to be sexual assault, but I honestly felt very intimidated by the guy, sad to say. I'm not the smallest guy, but I'm only 20, this guy is 53, and is not only jacked but has advanced training in fighting, and was even wearing a shirt that more or less said that. I know this guy laid a guy out at the room a few months back and nothing was done, so I was honestly afraid of saying something, getting knocked out, and having to go to the police because the room wouldn't do anything.

I don't know, maybe I'm a bad person for not doing anything. I've never been in a situation like this, and I'm not even an authority figure so I guess I felt out of line too trying to step in. I'm only 20, so charity rooms are my only venues, and sadly I'll be coming back because I love live hold em. I just felt like last night merited a warning about these two venues. Same floor and what not at both.
This situation came to the attention of the owners/management and was taken as seriously as a situation like this needs to be taken. I spoke with management and the second the issue came to their attention it was handled.

In addition, I regretfully overreacted/exaggerated when I initially implied that this is an underlying problem with the entire floor staff, it is/was one specific floor that was turning a blind eye to everything that happened in the room and for my frustration as to why the rooms were getting so out of control, and it was handled. The rest of the staff proved that one bad apple isn't going to spoil the bunch and was excellent in making sure that a) something like this never happens again and b) overall over the top bad behavior is going to be cracked down on and won't be tolerated.

Thank you to management for being great throughout this process.
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07-16-2019 , 10:16 PM
The floor at MCC has been even more lol than it normally is without Tony there. I played Saturday night and waited for 45 minutes despite checking in #2 on the 2/5 list. There were 5 open tables on Saturday night in the other room with no dealers. Then, when they finally did open up a new table there were 26 players on the 2/5 list, all except for 3 on the first page were already checked in, and they called an “interest list” for a 2/5 table. I questioned why they are possibly calling a an interest list with 26 players on the list and of course received a very normal and rude response by the woman in charge famous for bad attitudes. We know the one. I see less incentive to play there every time I go especially with MGM raising their comp. I don’t eat the food there so really I play 30 hours and get 4 bananas.
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07-17-2019 , 11:25 AM
I mean that's twice as good as 2 bananas.
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07-17-2019 , 12:25 PM
Might fire a few bananas this weekend on the charity circuit.
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07-17-2019 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by boutrous11
I mean that's twice as good as 2 bananas.
Depends on what's happening with the bananas.


I'm not surprised to hear that MCC is still ****ily run. It's amazing how even the tiniest dive rooms in Vegas are so much better staffed and run than any of the rooms in Metro Detroit.
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07-17-2019 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Depends on what's happening with the bananas.


I'm not surprised to hear that MCC is still ****ily run. It's amazing how even the tiniest dive rooms in Vegas are so much better staffed and run than any of the rooms in Metro Detroit.
Yea for real. The Detroit casinos just tilt me.
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07-25-2019 , 09:24 AM
Recently got down to play for the first time in a long time. When did MCC allow button straddles?

Any other rooms have comparable action for 2/5? I hate the button straddle, no idea why this the ONE players suggestion that they chose to enact.

Easy money
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07-25-2019 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Recently got down to play for the first time in a long time. When did MCC allow button straddles?

Any other rooms have comparable action for 2/5? I hate the button straddle, no idea why this the ONE players suggestion that they chose to enact.

Easy money
Pretty sure they all allow that
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07-25-2019 , 03:52 PM
MGM allows a straddle from anywhere.

There's always a couple $2/5 tables when I'm down there. No idea how it plays or if it's good though.
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07-25-2019 , 06:06 PM
Thanks, guess I'll just keep seat-changing until I'm out of the way.

Do you guys like button straddles?

Easy money
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07-25-2019 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Thanks, guess I'll just keep seat-changing until I'm out of the way.

Do you guys like button straddles?

Easy money
It’s obviously really dumb to put money into the pot when you don’t have. You gain really nothing by it. Doug Polk did an article on it awhile back about how it is ruining the blinds. It is kind of annnoying when someone does it on your BB everytime and you get in some sticky spots. But whatever, I guess it brings action.
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07-26-2019 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by twoblack9s
It’s obviously really dumb to put money into the pot when you don’t have. You gain really nothing by it. Doug Polk did an article on it awhile back about how it is ruining the blinds. It is kind of annnoying when someone does it on your BB everytime and you get in some sticky spots. But whatever, I guess it brings action.
Doug Polk is ****ing mentally handicapped. The straddle is great for rec players that want to splash around. It's great for generating action in a game. And if no-one else is doing it it's great to increase the advantage of your button.

Last edited by Lattimer; 08-02-2019 at 08:47 AM. Reason: someone complained about the r-word
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07-26-2019 , 01:44 AM
In theory straddling is a bad idea, but in reality it came make sense to do it once in a while and convey that you are a loose player. If you straddle and get decent cards and raise you are more likely to get action even if seen as a tight player.
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07-26-2019 , 07:28 AM
Anybody that wants to put more money into the pot before they see their cards is fine by me. It's very annoying when it's your blind, but the games with button straddles are usually pretty good.

Last edited by otter; 07-26-2019 at 07:37 AM.
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07-26-2019 , 08:51 AM
If you have a high VPiP a B straddle is a good way to pinch the blinds, so to speak. If I have a Nit on my left I want to know what they are doing before I act. It's an interesting dynamic because at some tables it will cut down on the limping and at others it will increase the limping since they are counting on you to raise for them. IMO Players are paying more attention during straddle hands as well, which can lead to more ABC action. The more straightforward your opponents play, the more likely you will know how to respond to their actions based on your holding. (Plenty of straddle threads to go to also.)

But if you aren't willing to play the whole deck, especially if there are other more aggressive 'alpha' Players at the table, then you may want to limit it since your willingness to flat a raise less often just costs you those chips.

I wont straddle every time in NL, but I don't straddle nearly as much in PLO since the 'consequences' are more drastic at an aggressive table. GL
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07-26-2019 , 10:39 AM
Calling Doug an idiot seems out of line. Dude grinded his way to the top so you should probably put some stock in his thoughts.

In higher stakes games, straddle effectively makes stacks shallower, which hurts your edge slightly if you consider yourself to be good at poker. That being said, low stakes players don’t adjust to it properly and it’s useful for pushing action in nitty games or raising the stakes with an inexperienced table.
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07-26-2019 , 11:03 AM
I guess to put a cherry on top ... at least in this thread ... most of the TV high stakes Players don't like the Button straddle one bit. Even to the extent that Magic Antonio said on PokerGo that he would leave a game if they tried to make it mandatory.

UTG straddles are very common in HS rooms .. GL
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07-27-2019 , 07:00 PM
Do the casinos downtown pay 6-5 on blackjack or 3-2?
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07-28-2019 , 02:01 AM
Which one of you open folded AA at 2/5 MCC on a 3594ccc board?

Easy money
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07-28-2019 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
Do the casinos downtown pay 6-5 on blackjack or 3-2?
BOTH. hopefully u are smart enough to pick the correct table
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07-29-2019 , 09:07 AM
Did I have Ac? Don't remember much from that session ... mainly because I woke up. GL
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07-29-2019 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Did I have Ac? Don't remember much from that session ... mainly because I woke up. GL
No, AsAh or AdAh. Did you have like 2k in front of you?

I didn't show but I'm happy to give you the spoiler of what I had.

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07-30-2019 , 02:04 AM
All of this "i bluffed ya" gloating means that he had it, answer20.
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07-30-2019 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Tracy
All of this "i bluffed ya" gloating means that he had it, answer20.
Yep .. and I bluffed being there ... and got free information. GL
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07-30-2019 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Yep .. and I bluffed being there ... and got free information. GL
Levels on levels.

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