6+2 on all games during $500 high hand promos. It goes back to 6+1 during all other times.

Pushing back on the 6 is more important IMO. Bumping the promo during bigger promos seems ok-ish to me. At least it goes back to the patrons in theory. That should make it close to EV neutral. But 6 to the house all the time seems steep. Of course if all the rooms nearby take 6 probably not much you can do.

As a daytime PLO player or 2-5 player, Motorcity is still the only game in town for me. That being said, other than the promo chasers, I don’t know why anyone plays 1-2 at motorcity any more. The 1-2 at MGM is a much more beatable game, IMO, even at 10 AM on a weekday.

I even go to MGM some days for a change of pace. In my experiences, the 1-2 at MGM plays bigger than 1-2 at Motorcity and I see fewer of those $50-100 buy ins and many more players buying in for $150-300

Yeah, that’s the standard rake everywhere in Michigan. You’re not going to find a casino poker game that is lower.

I actually suggested to the guys at mgm that they should have lowered their rake to $4 or $5 when they opened the new room a while back. I think they would have stolen even more business from the other two Detroit casinos, but it didn’t happen.

Wow, 6+2 during promo hours? That’s absurd. I don’t think I’ll be playing there anymore and nobody else in this thread really should either.

I’ve talked to Tony about how the buy in should be changed to $100 min on the 1/2 and he was basically like “yea, I get what you are saying but you need to keep in mind our main clientele.” A fair point, as most of the people are buying in for $100. It’s really just an awful game to be honest.

I wouldn’t mind seeing the buy in on 2/5 raised to $300 min now, it seems like more and more people just min buy and take shots and it really kind of ruins the game.

Maybe it’s the time of day I’m playing, but do you see that many $200 buys at 2-5? I’ve always seen it more at the plo tables as a strategy (short-buy shoves but willing to do it 8 times). Seems like when I play hold em I usually see at least $300+ for most buy-ins, but I’ll admit I don’t play late at night.

I also tend to think most of the 200 buy ins (and likewise, the $50 ones as well) tend to be bad players and lose way more often than they win. I’m ok with getting some of these bad players on the table

A pretty decent amount at 2/5 imo. They are undoubtedly weak players that do it but it’s frustrating when you buy in for $800 win one hand to go up to $1000 and you’ve got the table covered. I just feel like in general these Detroit games tend not to play very deep at all relatively.

Why did MCC discontinue the bigger BBJ that they were so well known for and have only a ****ty $30k JP now??

Spending way too much money on the high hand crap. The bad beat was going up slowly and they freaked out because it hit a few times close together and was really low. It’s dumb though, so much money for high hand stuff that is often given away at times I don’t play. At least when the bad beat was higher I always had a chance at a nice jackpot, no matter when I played.

How much do they take at 2/5? And what hours do the high hands run?

Rake is 5+2 at GLake .. not sure at FKeepers anymore. Dealers lower rake 'on their own' when Players leave or step away. They do make some adjustments to PLO rake during NL HH promos but I can't commit to the information right now.

Saw 5/10 PLO going at MGM last night with a 2/5 PLO that made it all the way through to morning.

I've always found the 1/2 at MCC very beatable. To have shorts stacks that you can apply pressure to in various spots on the table should be good opportunity. If you're not willing to flip around with smaller portions of your BR then I can understand that getting trapped into SPR hands that actually do reach the Turn could be frustrating. MCC 1/2 needs lots of PF aggression in order to even further shrink the ranges of the shorties. Obviously you need to avoid getting trapped by the Players who do buy in deeper as well. GL

As far as I know, the rake at 2-5 is 6-1 except during certain high hand hours when it jumps to 6-2. You'll have to check the Bravo Poker app/site to find out when exactly that happens though, the high hand times change every month and every day is different (Monday has a different schedule than Tuesday, etc, etc, etc) It's all posted through Bravo.

The 5-10 PLO at MGM runs every Tuesday night and then sporadically during the rest of the week. It tends to run almost every Friday/Saturday night but Monday/Wednesday/Thursday/Sunday tend to be hit or miss.

The 1-3 PLO (which might as well be called 2-5 since it's a $5 bring in) has been going through the night a lot lately. Unfortunately, you just never know how strong it's going. I've stopped in there at 6 AM a couple times when Bravo said there was a PLO and a 2-5 Hold em game going, only to find three guys playing PLO and 2 guys playing head's up 2-5 NLHE. I'd definitely recommend calling over there before making an appearance later night/early morning. I don't mind short handed, but I also don't like the idea of sitting down in a 4 handed game with two monster stacks (3500+), one short stack (under 400) and then my max buy-in stack that can only be 1000.

5 star has Round X Round games on Thursday and Saturday now. Anyone play that lately?

Are there any rooms to play at around the metro Detroit area besides MCC, MGM, or Greektown? (Besides Caesars Windsor or Hollywood Toledo)

That's 5 casinos in a non-tourist destination ... how many more do you want?

There are all the charity rooms around too: http://milottery.state.mi.us/gc-mplocator.php

All-in donk fest still. Better be there by 11:30 if you want a seat in the noon game. Maybe even earlier. They change over charities at some point for the evening and if you’re on the table when the first game ends you get priority for when the evening game starts.

But it’s a typical charity room PLO game. 200 buy-in with guys getting it in quickly. Same cast of characters that have always played on the east side, so you have to factor that in as well

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im amazed at how few players from detroit are up in turtle creek right now, as much as theyre giving out in bad beat money everyday this month til the poker room closes i expected theyred be a lot more. $10000 a day divided among only 6 tables is a lot of money and its not hard at all to get seats.

I’m amazed if any are up there.

It's 3 and a half hours into the middle of ****ing nowhere to get there. Why would you expect Detroit people to be there?

because u have a 1 in 6 odds of splitting $10000 between u and 8 others everyday? the ev is worth about $200 a day on top of what u would normally win playing poker.

That’s quickly negated by the drive and the cost of accommodations. Not to mention the inconvenience.

That's assuming you play all day. So *maybe* $200/day EV for 7 hours driving round trip + hotels. ... yea, **** that. I'll just play here.