Saw two of the saddest rulings I can remember seeing at a poker table tonight. Both at MCC within 20 mins of each other.

First: Dealer burns, counts out the first two cards on the flop, and the 3rd is boxed. Dealer doesn't know the term "boxed", calls the floor. Floor rules that the boxed card becomes the next burn card. Dealer sticks that card under the flop's burn, puts out the flop. Then after the flop action deals out the turn card.

Neither the dealer or the floor knew what a boxed card was.

Second: 4-5 hands later the during the deal the HJ and LJ positions look down at their cards, then both kind of look left and right and go "wait, something's wrong, he only has 1 card". Dealer at some point skipped the LJ, we're not sure if it was on the first or second round. During this time UTG has already put out a limp.

Dealer calls floor over, floor tells the dealer to give the LJ another card off the top of the deck. What. The. ****!?

Either that has to be a mis-deal, or if you're going to rule that a single limp is significant action, LJ's hand is dead.

Two softball easy rulings and they ****ed them up.

Yea... combination of new dealers and new floors... I’m guessing they were newer? Still an easy ruling but who knows.

First one .. Lots of Dealers and Floors don't know that boxed cards are just 'pieces of paper' to be taken 'out' and we move on. I do find it odd that one piece of paper is fine, but if you find two then you void the hand and return all bets.

Second one .. I can see doing this if the Floor feels the table can live with 'random being random' but definitely not before a misdeal or dead hand. UTG action is NEVER enough to lock in a hand since they could angling either way if they spot an error before the Dealer does. GL

Thread ate my first reply, but I don't know if either of those idiot women ere new or not. I don't play in that poorly run smoke box often enough.

For the first one: I asked the next two dealers that sat down how they'd treat it, and both knew the proper procedure. And it's a standard spot.

Eh, as much as I'm a fan of "random being random", don't leave the ****ing turn card exposed before getting dealt. We burn cards for a reason.

A few of you have commented that the dealer nor the floor person knew what a boxed card was. I don’t know either, can you explain it on here please. Also what does just a piece of paper mean? Thank you

Not sure where the term came from but I assume it has something to do with taking a brand new deck out for the first time. That is not relevant to your question ..

A boxed card is a card that is 'face up' in a shuffled deck and thus exposed for all to see. This can happen when the Dealer doesn't catch that all the cards are turned over before going into the auto-shuffler. Sometimes the shufflers will do it as well.

Not really knowing 'why' this type of exposed card is treated differently than any other exposed card, but the Dealer is to remove the card from the deck as though it were a piece of paper (not a card) and continue as if it never happened. The card is not to be used as a burn card if found after the deal and also the Dealer will not 'skip' the player who the card may have been intended for ... as with other exposed cards. It's essentially a 'joker' or baseball card or whatever you want to 'call' it other than a card in play.

If there are more than one boxed cards during the course of a hand then the hand is voided and all bets are returned. GL

Now what position is LG. I know HJ means hijack and I know what cut off is? But never heard LJ. Is that for LoJack? But still what position?

BTN, CO, HJ, then the next person would be the "LowJack" or LJ position. It's one of the MP spots that's kind of like saying UTG+3 or whatever.

Thank you for your answering

That is precisely what I would have guessed. But I have never heard it used before.

Reno's, the bar, decided they no longer wish to have poker. A new location in Lansing is coming soon... hopefully by January.

The State requires that Charities keep 20% minimum on tournaments.

How close to a milly is the bbj?

This is a tough situation for charity poker. The lease is week to week (and with the Charity, not the Supplier) and the landlord can pull the plug without much notice. A patron was robbed in the parking lot and Reno's apparently didn't want the 'negative' ties that this may have brought to the rest of it's operations. This is 'street talk' so take it any way you want ...

Looks like it's 953K .. try motorcitycasino.com for daily updates on all jackpots. GL

MotorCity showed up on my Bravo app this morning. It showed no games going, which must be false, but at least it’s there now. Any word on this?

Yea same here... my app says coming some under were the number of tables would be. The BBj amount is listed though so I’m assuminh they still need to get system set up. But it’s a step in th right direction i was there last night but did not ask about it

MCC showing up on my iPhone Bravo app as coming soon. Lists the BBJ as 959K. Also new charity room coming to Wayne Bowl at the end of the month (maybe).

It took Poto (Milwaukee) almost three weeks to become fully Bravo functional. Nice to see a 'rumor' come true. Anyone every been to MCC on Thanksgiving? I sent my family down south so I may head down that way if my wife doesn't sent any Black Thu/Fri stuff my way from a far. GL

My other thread got locked. What’s the biggest game playing in Detroit? To play in, not to rob.


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Biggest game is always gonna be at MCC on Friday and Saturday nights. Current BBJ is 964K. MCC still listed as coming soon on the iPhone Bravo app.

Not sure if they still spread it, but the weekly 25/50 PLO game at MGM plays pretty large.

I thought they moved that game back to Greektown.

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Anyone playing the 210$ tournament at MGM tomorrow? I'm so bored and wanna go play a tournament. How many players should I expect? How soft is the pool? Is it even a good tournament to play?
I'm really a cash player but felt like playing a few tourneys lately. Thanks!

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Biggest games...

Motorcity on Friday and sometimes Saturday. 5/10/20 No limit hold em with buyin of 500 to 3000. Plays relatively big. You can win or lose 5k fairly easily. We had a mandatory 40 dollar straddle and that played as big as I've ever seen in Detroit.

Biggest PLO is Motorcity on Monday and Thursday. 5/10 with buyin of 500 to 3000. Occasionally late at night they bump it to mandatory straddle.

This 25/50 PLO game I've heard about never ran consistently and turned into a private game at Greektown. I called Greektown a few months ago about it and believe they said it stopped entirely. If anyone has an update on this I'd like to hear.