That likely assumes all 9/10 hands are dealt out and see the river too.

More than likely, yes, to the above.

The issue here isn't the Q v Q ... It's the fact that the 'Mini' BBJ (AAAKK V Q or better) isn't tied into the Main BBJ. If the Mini paid out 10% of the Main then this BBJ would be much more under 'control'. I would have to imagine that the Mini has hit at least 8-10 times since the last Main. Just doing this conservatively this would be $400K lower at $40K x ten hits. GL

They are piling money into this, don't give an S that the mini is basically dust. At this point they might be trying to boost the Q vs Q to a million.

If you think this will all slow down after it hits, maybe for a week or two, but the reserve for this Q vs Q is 40%, so if it hits today they will post a new $367,000 BBJ right after

Where does this reserve come from?


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The split is the split though. Some fraction of each dollar goes to the "big" jackpot, some to the "mini", and some to each of the reserve pots and flush promos. They can't change that or gaming would crawl up their asses.

The other rooms split something like 60% to the main, 30% to the reserve, and 10% to the second reserve. Not sure how MCC does it.

So ive lived in detroit for almost two years and the rake here is awful. Are any of the charity rooms worth it and is there any local mixed games?

I need to set up some sort of electric dog collar device at Firekeepers to prevent me from stepping foot on the premises. Higher variance than play money.

No charities in my area... Back to Ignition, I guess.

global poker isn't bad

The reserve comes from within the promotional 'rules' that were set up when they first started taking the extra $1. Most promotional programs have 2 reserve 'amounts' that grow under the radar so that the jackpots don't get reset to zero when they hit. Obviously the more they hit the less time the reserve has to grow before it becomes the 'main' jackpot.

FK had a run of 3-4 BBJs hitting quickly and I think it was under $4k when it hit for the last of those groups!

I was told, but they will never confirm (like going to Bravo) that they have gone to Gaming with a new promotional structure that may include more freedom for High Hands and such. In order to do so they must allow the current promo to 'hit' before the transition.

I thought they had a 'huge' problem at Turtle Creek in Traverse City where the BBJ hadn't hit in over 3-4 years and they were waiting for it to hit so they could change the rules. I see it's at $170K today so maybe it hit ... I thought it was up over $300K the last time I was there but perhaps I have a bad memory on that one. GL

Indeed. The games are so juicy. I dabbled in some PLO on there and was baffled by how terrible the regs are.

I like Bodog the best because of Zone. It is my specialty.

Don't forget about FK $400 this Sunday, 1000 start, over $100K PP w $30K-ish up top.
FK BBJ hit on the 20th .. down to $20K

Still no word on the Lansing area .. may get an update tonight.

Perfect set up to hit MCC today .. then it wasn't. I guess as long as it's still growing I can't complain about not making it down there. GL

did they fix the structure or will it stay the bad way?

Proba

They have no control at this point. The rules they set with gamings approval controls until after Bb is hit

Has the charity rake increased?

1 Eye Jack says 25% by law.

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I noticed that on poker atlas for rosemack and was curious myself. It used to be 20% right?

It was 25% when I played last night.

Chopped 3 ways for $425 there. First time ever there. Great structure. 20 min blinds all night, blinds move at a great pace too.

100/200.. 200/400.. 300/600.. 400/800.. 500/1000... 25k to start

Finished at about 12 or so with the chop. And blinds were at 10000-20000 or 15000-30000.. can't remember exactly. But I had well over 20+ bb when we chopped


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So here's a hand from early on at the final table when I played last night. Did I over think? Should I have made a decision quicker??

I'm in the BB.. blinds are 5-10k. I have about 170k. Folds to the button. Has about 240k. Raises to 35k. SB shoved for about 110k. I look down and have QQ. I tank. As I haven't seen much play from either of these guys. So I really don't know where I stand. Button finally calls clock, which I nod and after about 30 seconds I shove. Button hesitates for a few and finally calls. He has JJ.. SB had AK. Board runs out with nothing higher than a 9.

Is this a snap shove? We were 10 handed and 7 got paid. I would have been on life support had I lost.

TIA


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My post didn't take. From what I heard he's right. The management told the dealers not to deal the bad beat jackpot until it hits a million. Those that didn't want to comply were told not to come back until it hits a million. Once it hits a million they're allowed to deal it.

Absolutely. Button's range is obviously large. SB reshove range here should be like 66+, AT-AK, maybe some suited broadways

Yes and No. I would never make any “snap” decisions concerning $$$, but I think it’s a clear cut shove. If i’m the B and i’ve got the blinds covered my opening range is pretty wide ( 35%-40% ). sb shove range with 11bb stack is prolly very similar.

FYI : QQ vs. 39.7% range (button) vs. 32.1% range ( small blind ) = 57.6% vs. 20.4% vs. 22.9% respectively
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I don't know of any 'law' or regulation regarding tournament rake. And there certainly hasn't been any changes that I've been told about.

There may be a maximum tournament rake set at 25% that the rooms were not going by in the past. We did notice that a local room jumped up to 21% recently.

Rake at these events is set by the charity ... of course we all know that this is not the case since the market and the Supplier handle this for them. Cash rake is usually $5-6 max per hand in most rooms.

There is no limit to the amount of rake a charity can 'earn' out of the $15K in chips they can sell, but the supplier is limited to 45% of the first $2000 and then the Charity gets 100% after that. GL

My opinion ... if you're already in the money, snap shove. And if the tournament will play out fully without a chop, probably also a snap shove, because of the likelihood you'll get a giant stack which you can play out and probably get a top or near-top finish.

Close to the bubble, that's different, especially if there is likely to be a five-or-more-way chop. Just making the money is close to the max in that situation, so for ICM reasons, I certainly can see why you tanked. Not an obviously shove in my mind, but I'd have probably done the same as you in the end.

Striking lanes had a pretty good tournament structure