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12-06-2016 , 07:00 AM
Little spur in the thread here ... nice. Having not played in all of the casinos enough to validate an opinion I will just add that, in general, in rooms where higher stakes are consistently running the 1/2 generally suffers. I've seen this at all of the casinos with '24 hour' poker I've ever played in. In rooms with less traffic players who want to play bigger get 'stuck' in the smaller game and thus ... action!! The same situation applies to charity rooms. A decent 2/5 game would destroy the chip count and in most cases cause the room to have lower rake that day due to the slower play that exists when regs play deeper.

As far as the allure of MCC .. not sure. But having the poker room a little more visible at MGM hopefully will help them. 80% of the time I play in Detroit it's when I have business there and end up playing the rest of the day. That pretty much means MCC since they have multiple stakes and 'instant' seating. With both MGM and Greektown on Bravo that might actually deter players and send them to MCC when they don't see 'much' going on. GL
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12-06-2016 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
MCC has the worst action for $1/2 of all three casinos. I've told people that and they just don't believe me. But then there are a lot of players that have never even stepped foot in any of the other rooms. How can you make a choice or have an opinion without trying them all at least once?
Never played MGM but between MCC and GT this can only be true for a certain time frame. My normal session during the week due to work is 12:30am-6am. Greektown is always dead and might be down to 1 short table by the time I leave. That's never the case at MCC. I always see MGM on bravo with 2 tables at that time too. What's the best day and time for 1/2 at MGM though?
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12-06-2016 , 08:05 PM
Play after noon on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, until about 2-3 am. Basically the times that people with normal jobs have free to gamble/drink/go out.

And by "action" I mean, "quality of game" no just the number of bodies in the room. Even when MCC is packed the $1/2 game often sucks.
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12-06-2016 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Play after noon on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, until about 2-3 am. Basically the times that people with normal jobs have free to gamble/drink/go out.

And by "action" I mean, "quality of game" no just the number of bodies in the room. Even when MCC is packed the $1/2 game often sucks.
This. Just because there are bodies in the seats doesnt mean the action is good. The 1/2 at MCC is consistently nitty where its like pulling teeth to get a pot over $100, while the charity I play at will have games where there are multiple people straddling 25-100 basically just punting money. The earning potential is much higher in that game even with the higher variance.
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12-06-2016 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Play after noon on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, until about 2-3 am. Basically the times that people with normal jobs have free to gamble/drink/go out.

And by "action" I mean, "quality of game" no just the number of bodies in the room. Even when MCC is packed the $1/2 game often sucks.
I'll have to get to MGM one weekend. Sucks I can only get to play every other weekend+ whatever weekdays. Greektown does seem to attract a lot of drunks on weekends though. I just don't get why MCC doesn't make it 300max or at least up to the big stack.
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12-07-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mbrothers22
I just don't get why MCC doesn't make it 300max or at least up to the big stack.
1) Short stacking means action .. or easy pickin passive play.
2) Blowing up short stacks keeps the list moving.
3) See 2/5 for big stack poker.
4) Why change when you don't have to?
5) Short stacks don't want 'super' stacks at the table with them.
6) Why change when you don't have to?

Did I mention why change when you don't have to? GL
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12-07-2016 , 02:36 PM
It's all about "why change?" in that room.

I wouldn't say that short stacks cause action, at least not the way I've seen them played there. But it gets butts in the seats when the BBJ is high, and keeps the pots close to the max-rake size (for % and absolute). Capping the BI moves the players that want a bigger stack to $2/5, where they're not really deeper in most practical terms, but it lets MCC continue to claim to have bigger games as it's always running.

Edit: Oh, except for removing one of the cashiers and putting the line in the way of the entrance/exit, because *that* change is a good idea.

Last edited by Angrist; 12-07-2016 at 03:01 PM.
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12-07-2016 , 10:14 PM
I can't add much that hasn't already been said, but I think all three rooms are seriously dropping the ball by not taking tournament poker more seriously.
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12-08-2016 , 07:27 PM
Amen.
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12-08-2016 , 10:37 PM
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3) See 2/5 for big stack poker.
I've never played 2/5 or even watched the game at MC. I'd like to but am only rolled for 1/2. It's still only 100BB max though. Do you mean the typical opens are more standard as compared to 6x or more like 1/2? That's why I prefer 150bb max compared to 100. If you get AK twice and miss, c bet and you know you're losing, you're likely down 1/4 of your stack.
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12-09-2016 , 01:32 AM
Is the new room at MGM open?
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12-09-2016 , 01:44 AM
How easy is it to cross over to Windsor and hit up the Ceasars there? Can you play with USD or do you need convert everything to CAD (+vig)?
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12-09-2016 , 02:32 AM
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How easy is it to cross over to Windsor and hit up the Ceasars there? Can you play with USD or do you need convert everything to CAD (+vig)?
It's been a while since I've been over there, although I've been meaning to go again. It's about $5 each way in tolls. I've never had too much traffic getting to the border, but you do get interrogated a bit sometimes. Telling the Canadian's that you're headed to the Casino and strip club gets you waved through quickly, while the US side seems like more hassle every time I've gone. They'll check your documents and ask you some questions and whatnot. Mostly looking for somebody nervous and suspicious. Don't bring **** you're not supposed to, and don't lie to them.

You have to convert money to CAD to buy chips, but you can make that transaction at the cage, and convert back to USD when you leave. It'll cost a couple of percent to do.
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12-09-2016 , 11:36 AM
What are the games like? Do they get any big games? Might have to add that to my itinerary next trip
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12-09-2016 , 11:59 AM
I had a buddy who said he did good 'over there' but he is extremely tight. He did it more for the comps that they were offering him and his wife compared to the casinos in Michigan. He dropped out of the West Michigan poker scene almost 2 years ago so I'm not sure what he's doing right now. GL
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12-09-2016 , 12:57 PM
The action was OK on the weekends, depending on the tournament schedule. Good number of regs, no-body that was all that great. But my sample size is kind of small. The last couple times I went the exchange rate was close to even, so I'd expect it's a more attractive trip when it's favorable like it is now.
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12-09-2016 , 02:48 PM
MGM Detroit just tweeted that the new poker room is open
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12-09-2016 , 03:19 PM
Nice. May test it out tonight and see.
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12-09-2016 , 03:34 PM
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Nice. May test it out tonight and see.
TR Please
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12-09-2016 , 11:22 PM
Mabye next time ended up at MCC
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12-11-2016 , 08:18 PM
Hollywood Toledo closed today and Bravo showed 47 people still remaining in the 50k guarantee and 27 getting paid. I wonder how they handled this? Does anyone have any info? Kinda glad I didn't bag, driving down this morning and then having them close would have been pretty stressful.

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12-11-2016 , 09:17 PM
Just drove by vision. Parking lot was prettyf full. Not sure ratio of bowlers to pokerererererrrs.
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12-12-2016 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hammtown
Hollywood Toledo closed today and Bravo showed 47 people still remaining in the 50k guarantee and 27 getting paid. I wonder how they handled this? Does anyone have any info? Kinda glad I didn't bag, driving down this morning and then having them close would have been pretty stressful.

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stopped play till next weekend according to guy at MCC who was in the tourney.
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12-14-2016 , 01:48 PM
Hollywood Toledo facebook post says that Michael " The Grinder " Mizrachi will be playing in the Arctic Blast tourney's there this weekend.
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12-14-2016 , 02:17 PM
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Hollywood Toledo facebook post says that Michael " The Grinder " Mizrachi will be playing in the Arctic Blast tourney's there this weekend.
Saw that awhile ago. They just sent out an email also. I think they still have to finish up last week's tournament too. Busy busy .. be nice to get him at a cash table instead of tournament. GL
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