A few dealers from 2014 at Motor City got busted for cheating the Holdem game.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/loca...roit/84767408/

**Counterfeit Bill Warning**

I played in a charity room Saturday evening and was paid with a counterfeit $100 bill. I bought in with $200 in $20s and cached out for just under $600 and was paid with five $100 bills.

It was discovered on Sunday when i tried to use that $100 bill to buy in at the casino.

Had a nice conversation with casino security then the MI State Police. They were both polite and professional. They assured me I was not in any trouble but it was still unsettling. I'm sure I'll be receiving a call from the Secret Service this week.

Make sure to check the bills you receive when cashing out.

This was the table game, not in the poker room itself. Still don't really want or need bad events popping up in the press.

When Gun Lake Casino first opened up they had many, many dealers who needed help with the basic poker rules at the Ultimate Texas Hold'em table game. I saw quite a few potential mistakes honestly corrected by the players ... so I'm sure there were plenty of mistakes that didn't get corrected as well depending on who was sitting down. Can't imagine that security is focused on the payouts at this table either.

So long story short, it would be pretty easy (easier than 21 anyway) to make some wrongful payouts/pushes if no one else was at the table.

We've seen a few bad 100s in the charity rooms, but most of the suppliers give them pretty good warnings to check the bills. GL

Had this problem at Snookers back in the day. I tried to deposit the counterfeit bills (I only had two of them) at the bank with some other winnings and had the bills confiscated.

The next day I went in and talked to Don. I just wanted him to remind the charity workers to check the bills when they collect them. Being the absolutely gentleman he was, Don tried to give me $200 to replace the bad bills. I wouldn't let him because I felt it was my fault for not checking the bills when I got paid out.

That reminds me of when the casino opened in Toledo. The blackjack dealers were bad enough (paying out winning bets when I lost the hand, pushing when I lost, trying not to pay when I won, etc), I heard crazy stories from the other tables games. Dealers paying out way too much on what should be pretty simple calculations (in one example, a player was paid $300 on a $30 bet that should have paid out 3-1)

I'd be inclined to tip her as she's otherwise getting screwed.

The money being freshly won is irrelevant. Saying that the dealer "rewarded you" is also kind of crazy. The dealer didn't *do* anything to give you the BBJ. The machine shuffled, and he pitched the cards just like he does every hand.

I wouldn't stiff them as that's just a dick move and not worth the bad blood from the staff. I'm thinking 1% gross is more than enough. Then again I also just tip a constant amount/hand regardless of pot size.


I'd heard that he was from Toledo. So not really out of the local player pool as there's a lot of people that play in both cities.


Same ****ty reporting as before. Has to be the "Ultimate Texas Hold'em" pit game. Hate trying to explain these kinds of things to non-gamblers that now think poker is rigged. Same thing with the M-Live article: http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/in...art_river_home


Care to share which charity? I'm always extra careful checking my payouts. Too many seem like they can't count and give me the wrong amount.

Were these the movie prop bills that I've read articles about recently? Or a different kind of fake?

I would prefer not to say the name of the charity room. I talked to the owner and he offered to reimburse me the the $100. The charity room did NOT have a Counterfeit Detector Pen that night. Not sure if the supplier typically provides it or the charity.

Both the casino security guard and the State Trooper said it was a "bad counterfeit." apparently, it was an attempt at a newer "blue" bill. Never got a good look at the bill after it was confiscated.

So how do you guys check for counterfeit bills? Eye ball test or do you carry a pen?

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Eye-ball and finger test. Most charities use pens, and I've asked them to swipe a bill that looked funny before. Don't bother at the casino.

Just head to 8 mile and give em to strippers..

Pro tip.

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Nice.. bring it to Toledo. Is it too late to pretend it was me?

As long as you admit to wearing sleeveless shirts to sport your guns and keep your goatee nicely trimmed. Pretty sure that's what I saw ... GL

Nailed it

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Should of tried to get the bill back from the State Trooper.

I don't have a problem with 1% if it's considered proper even if it's on the lower end.

Tipping is always a weird thing because when you go out to a fancy place to eat the server might be five times worse then the person at an average priced restaurant and your bill might be five times more, thus you're supposed to tip five times more by some standards society has created.

All I'm saying is the dealer should be taken care of. It's true he didn't do anything more then his job of putting the cards in the machine but these guys hustled over the past few months in a mad house full of people. It's a big thing to any dealer who is lucky enough to deal the winning hand and they shouldn't be left hanging.

This whole conversation has been brought up because it sounds like he barely got any money at all from the stories reported here which would be wrong. If he got 4k in total over the entire table or so I wouldn't feel bad for him but if he only got $400 that is way too cheap of the players imo.

I know jermaine was also in a "pool" with at least 1 other dealer to split a percentage...so who knows how much he actually took home

Pick a tiger game with omaha and we"ll do it up..

At the game right now. Pelfrey sucks!

He got at least $8k, including $5k from the big share. Now, if he chose to split his tip with another dealer, that's up to him. He obviously got more than $400.

good idea

I am def in

3 HRs tho.

It slows down in the summer

Yeah, almost all poker rooms in Michigan slow down during the summer. Guys play golf or go out on their boat or BBQ with bon fires or anything else you'd do outdoors in the nice weather.