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12-31-2013 , 05:31 PM

#25201

ScreaminAsian

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thinly veiled I've been to maui brag

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12-31-2013 , 06:12 PM

#25202

Coach McGuirk

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

thinly veiled I've been to maui brag

I thought he was talking about episodes of Magnum.

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12-31-2013 , 06:49 PM

#25203

Omaha8A2

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Just had this hand: ep villain raises to $15 with about $190 back, I cover. Folds to me in mp with AA. I raise to $40. Everyone folds. Ep hesitantly calls.

Flop is Kc6d4d. Ep donks $50 with about $100 back. I call. Turn is Kh. Ep bets $55 with $45 back. Hero? I mean he bet $55 into $180.

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12-31-2013 , 07:06 PM

#25204

Caveman921

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

Coach it.

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12-31-2013 , 07:08 PM

#25205

Coach McGuirk

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

Just had this hand: ep villain raises to $15...

Sounds like K6.

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12-31-2013 , 07:08 PM

#25206

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He is on a FD trying to get there cheap.

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12-31-2013 , 07:09 PM

#25207

Angrist

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Raise the flop. All in.

AP ... Raise and get it in I guess. If he's ever worse than a K we have to put it in here.

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12-31-2013 , 07:09 PM

#25208

Coach McGuirk

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Originally Posted by Caveman921

Coach it.

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:big****ingheart:

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12-31-2013 , 07:16 PM

#25209

Coach McGuirk

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Frank--plz explain flop action.

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12-31-2013 , 07:17 PM

#25210

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:big****ingheart:

"Coaching it" is based on the simple philosophy of "I don't make good decisions" putting all the decision making on your opponents.

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12-31-2013 , 07:31 PM

#25211

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

Just gonna assume you didn't have the Ad since you didn't mention it. I'm jamming the flop over his donk bet against most players. What kind of villain is this? Interesting turn for sure, very villain dependent.

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12-31-2013 , 07:36 PM

#25212

Coach McGuirk

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Originally Posted by Caveman921

"Coaching it" is based on the simple philosophy of "I don't make good decisions" putting all the decision making on your opponents.

Very valid definition.

I thought you were using definition number two: SHIP IT IN THERE!

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12-31-2013 , 07:46 PM

#25213

gambit8888

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

Does the villain look like a bluffer?

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12-31-2013 , 08:03 PM

#25214

Omaha8A2

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Originally Posted by gambit8888

Does the villain look like a bluffer?

As far as I can tell, villain has not bluffed. However, this is the first time that he's donking. On all other hands where he had a big hand like top pair, he has check/ raised.

I call the flop because I'm in position and I'm expecting him to get it in on the turn anyway with stack sizes the way they are. But is math idiotic here if villain is never betting less than a king on the turn?

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12-31-2013 , 08:05 PM

#25215

Coach McGuirk

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Math is always idiotic >

I like getting it in on the flop, cuz I don't see him folding. The turn makes me squirm a bit.

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12-31-2013 , 08:08 PM

#25216

gambit8888

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

I call the flop because I'm in position and I'm expecting him to get it in on the turn anyway with stack sizes the way they are

I do not really understand this line of thinking. Why not get it in on the flop then?

If for some reason you are scared to raise the flop because you think your opponent is bluffing, do you expect him to bluff off his stack on the turn to you?

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12-31-2013 , 08:15 PM

#25217

Angrist

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On the flop AK or KQ isn't folding. QQ/JJ might may or may not fold. But they're not likely to get more money in on the turn or river anyway.

So any hand I expect to get more money from is going to put it in on the flop anyway. And we deny any weird flush draws or KQ two pair draw outs correct odds.

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12-31-2013 , 08:31 PM

#25218

Omaha8A2

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Originally Posted by gambit8888

I seen to remember that you are always asking why we want to push out his air hands, so why shove now when we're way ahead of any king? Why can't we let him spew queens or jacks on the turn?

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12-31-2013 , 08:33 PM

#25219

Coach McGuirk

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YOU GUYS

I HAZ ACES

WHAT DO I DO?

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12-31-2013 , 08:38 PM

#25220

gambit8888

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

I seen to remember that you are always asking why we want to push out his air hands, so why shove now when we're way ahead of any king? Why can't we let him spew queens or jacks on the turn?

I agree with what you just said obv, but you made the statement that you are sure the stacks will be going in... so in that case what hand you think will shove the turn that wont call your raise on the flop (other than a bluff). And if a bluff is the only answer, why are you wondering what to do on the turn when he bets into you?

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12-31-2013 , 08:42 PM

#25221

Angrist

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Originally Posted by gambit8888

Exactly.

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12-31-2013 , 08:56 PM

#25222

Omaha8A2

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Originally Posted by gambit8888

I wasn't wondering what to do on the turn, but I wanted to phrase the question in a way that I would find out if anyone folds the turn.

I think jamming the flop is fine, but why not let queens or jacks or flush draw bluff one more time before we get it in?

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12-31-2013 , 09:01 PM

#25223

gambit8888

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

I think jamming the flop is fine, but why not let queens or jacks or flush draw bluff one more time before we get it in?

I agree with that thought process, as you might already know

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12-31-2013 , 09:01 PM

#25224

Omaha8A2

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Next question: sticky 1/2 table, five limpers to you in the big blind. You get pocket eights. Raise or check?

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12-31-2013 , 09:06 PM

#25225

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

Next question: sticky 1/2 table, five limpers to you in the big blind. You get pocket eights. Raise or check?

Not answering till we get results from last hand..

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