If Michigan gets online poker back, is there a particular platform it would be on? PokerStars Michigan, for example? How would this work?

twoblacks, what if they make it super easy on some site to deposit and withdrawl... like instantly, no wait. Paypal or something... That would be appealing. Not holding my breath though.

It sounds like it will be coming eventually, it's just a matter of timing. This is from the legislative forum thread about MI Online Poker:

That aspect of it would be appealing, sure. And I'm sure they would do something like that, similar to Draft Kings. I'm just saying, the smaller player pool has really no appeal to me at all. I guess if you are going to play cash games it would be fine. But from a tournament and SNG perspective it would make for extremely small player pools.

Because the cash games will be soft as hell.

I highly doubt so. I'm sure the micros will be soft if you want to play those. But the cash games generally play like 7x-10x harder online than in person, and much different than 1/2 or 2/5 cash game plays in person. Way less limping, way more 3 betting, 4 betting, and you can't get away with flatting from cutoff or hijack as much like you can live due to higher frequency 3 betting. You are also going to be playing against the same (small) group of players. Maybe the legality of the games attract a few people to deposit a couple hundred bucks, but they'll be playing the micros.

I am just hoping that some of them (i.e. if PokerStars moves in eventually) actually write hand history files and allow HUDs so we at HM3 can add support for them. I only have a few sites I can test at for work, and one less now that I busted my WPN testing roll. I would rather deposit to MI sites in a month for work/testing and recreation than deposit to WPN.

Uh, anyone hoping for soft games should be wishing none of those things happen.

FWIW, on Bravo, Motor City changed their status "It's no Bluff, Poker is Opening Next Week!" to "Poker is closed until further notice." So, turns out it may have been a bluff after all....

My guess is they got handed a stack of red tape from the commission and said hell with it for right now.

Update on Midway Poker Tour-
My buddy made day 2, is there now, all 30 players are in the money. He shows up and finds out they are all getting $1600 (charity rule? 500 over initial buyin) and the remainder of the "prizepool" is gold???? So if he ships the 50k 1st place he gets 2lbs of gold??? Also said the cops were there when he arrived but may be unrelated. Um.... RIP- Midway Poker Tour.

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Just curious, but why would you say this? Michigan only action may not be ideal, but it's better than the alternative which is no online poker at all. Michigan has a fairly large player pool compared to most states as well.

edit: ah, I see your reasoning now a couple posts after -- too small of a player pool. Understandable, but Michigan has a sizable player pool.

I wonder how many runners MTT's get on PokerStars PA.

Truthfully I was a big fan of online poker before Black Friday and was playing when it happened. It was great at the time, and the software 9 years ago was somehow way better than what any other site currently has in 2020. I remember thinking at the time, this can't possibly last for longer than a year. Well, sure enough, almost a decade later and we are so thrilled that we can play online against players in our own state. Poker players, and gamblers in general, have a tendency to just accept things as is. Blackjack pays 6/5, meh. Triple zero roulette, meh, better than nothing. I don't feel like our government is doing us any favors by legalizing it in state only after almost a decade. For me personally, I'll just hold out until it goes back to how it was or I'm happy just sitting out.

So I see the folks who ran Cadas and Rounders are looking for dealers and floor people. It looks like they’re moving into One Eyed Jacks. Is there any charity poker at all running in Michigan. I think the Big 3 casinos and the Indian rooms are still down. I think the state is holding off on live poker for as long as possible.

I was at Motor today to cash a sportsbetting ticket and the poker room now has those plastic dividers in the room, but none of them attached to the tables. I think that indicates some progress though as they weren't there the week before. I asked a slot jockey if he knew when the poker room will open and he says no one knows.

I was told by a charity Supplier that Gaming would allow a charity room to open .. playing 3-handed. I didn't really get into the details at the time but will probably have more to report 'soon'.

I was thinking that Players could actually sit at two different tables and the Dealer could spin back and forth. Not sure which table the Board would be spread on, but my mind works all the time in these weird scenarios.

IMO if a room is taking the time to add the plexiglass then they can't be too far from opening. As I've reported in other threads, there is poker in Indiana at at least 3 locations. So the pressure on Gaming/Governor to offer some type of guidelines has to be there. GL

lol 3 handed.

Regular in Detroit here....just arrived @ South Bend to grind some pokerz 4 the night

Well they tried two dealers at one table. Whatever that funky game was called. So why not two tables for one dealer. Though pulling in the pot and pushing it will be fun.

Wow .. a two month bump here. Maybe not a huge surprise since there's really no live poker in Detroit!

Interesting that Greek Town will 'close' at 6PM tonight to control capacity for New Year's .. Do you know anyone who would want to spend 6+ hours in that place waiting for 12:00? GL

Most of my local degens are broke anyway. A few guys ran online clubs for a while, but by the end of the summer there was no more money to go around and the games died. Only heard of a few small home games around. Without a pool of fish to feed them they've got to suck.

I'm kind of worried about how the poker landscape is going to look when things finally reopen. I assume many of the charity rooms will be permanently gone or otherwise re-aligned. Will be interesting to see how much traffic comes back now that people that had a year to change their habits.

It will be interesting ..

Most of the clubs are combining with others to keep going. Some home games are thinning but others are still going strong, some location changes.

All you got to do is look at South Bend and St. Louis .. perhaps Texas/FL. Poker is booming/unchanged even short-handed. Really just peruse Bravo and I think things are going pretty well despite all 2020 stuff in the areas that allow it. You definitely need to consider BR repercussions if 'all' you have out there are action Players.

The bigger issue is how will online gaming affect things here in MI. If CV continues to prevail and online poker wakes up .. AND those stuck at home find they can scratch that same itch playing 0.10/0.20 instead of making 'that drive' even 1-2 days less a week it will really have an impact on live poker. Certainly poker is a social event for lots of Regs, but there may just be less of it coming out the other side.

Supply and Demand. When Supply is short then Demand gets ramped up. So you have less poker opportunities, but more hype surrounding the poker that is available. GL

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It'll be interesting for sure either way it goes. I've contented for years that the widely distributed charity room scene with little rooms all over the place made for a very 'odd' local environment that was hard to compare to other places with casinos. I think that a consolidation would be a good thing overall, at the expense of some of the really splashy locals. Any time the local economy takes a hit (2008/2009?) the games take a hit too, so it may depend on how quickly the Queen lets businesses reopen.

Online I'm not sure on. Yes, it's more convenient. But when the stakes are so low it's hard to actually win anything substantial. And if people try to play larger they get eaten alive. Many people I know get really frustrated with the beats online too.

Pre Black Friday it was more of a gateway drug for rec players. Getting them hooked and then into the live rooms. Maybe that'll happen again.

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