Somewhere in between the two. I play there quite frequently and that’s what I’ve heard from several players. Although no set in stone date or anything yet.

how many players can MCC handle?

also a well structured tournament will be a shock for that staff.

When I was there 2 weeks ago all that was said was that Sammy was in FL for a few days talking details, but no buyin was set. I am hoping its an $1100 though. Seems like the perfect amount for the Detroit area.

I believe without adding any, MCC has 23 tables. When I asked about accommodations, they said that they will be taking out a bunch of slots to add in more tables. I am sure they could easily add in at least another 30 tables if needed.

Honestly, its not really up to MCC staff to run the tournament. WPT will bring their own dealers and (I believe) tournament director. All MCC needs to do is make sure that the non-tournament experience is good. I think the biggest hurdle will be making sure it isn't overly smokey. If they clear the slots a week or two in advance and rope off the poker tournament as non-smoking, it should help. I asked about the possibility of just having the tournament in a conference room or something. That would require going to the gaming board to designate the conference space as a gaming floor. Maybe if Detroit becomes a regular stop they could go to the board for approval.

I have never been in the soundboard, but if its layout is similar to horseshoe hammonds 'Venue', that would be the ideal location. I love the WSOP-C in hammond. Perfect room for a tournament. Decent lighting and ample space.

Soaring Eagle kinda sucked but I do miss playing the HPT’s in their concert area.

Have been to sound board and am fairly certain that is where they would have the tournament. Hope this actually happens because it’s long overdue!

Are there no seats on ground level?

Regardless, I think they would need to get it classified as a gaming floor from MGC before holding tournament there.

WPT Deepstacks FTs are usually streamed but I was told that streaming is VERY difficult in Michigan. I think HPT was only doing TV episodes and not streaming but I don't think Twitch was as available back then either.

I would love to see MCC really jump into the tournament scene and allow the 'experts' come in and run the tournament for them. One of the reasons HPT is not at SEagle was over 'control' of the event. I think when they touted their $300 BI as 'Event #1' when HPT had no clue they were running it started the fallout.

WSOPc definitely has their own Dealers so I wouldn't be surprised if WPTDS did as well. GL

My HPT FT in 2014 was live streamed on YouTube, and MSPT has always live streamed their FT’s so I don’t think it would be an issue.

Low key brag

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Alex you still have a link to that hand where you laid down AK on KQx flop to a smallish raise?

Nothing says bragging like mentioning the one time you final tabled an event 5 years ago

I do but it also has that hand where I called a 3bet with 33 without proper odds and lost 2/3 of my stack trying to bluff villain off JJ so I’m not sure I want to relive that.

Lol, true. It is fairly modest that you didnt refer to it as "The Summer of Alex".

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As far as I know, Sami didn't go to Florida, but Tony did and sounds very excited about what he learned and what he saw.

As for where they'll play, Michigan gaming says they have to play on designated gaming space. They can't play in the hotel ballrooms or the Soundboard or anywhere like that. It must be played in space already designated for gaming.

The current plan is to take out all the slots at the back of the lower level. Basically, they have 11 extra tables (or is it 13) at the back already. Five in the extra room and 6-8 out on the gaming floor. They can take out slots and add another 12-20 back there, with the eventual goal of being able to have up to 250-300 players in any given flight for the tournament while still running cash games in the main poker room. The rumor is, after the tournament, construction could begin on a new permanent poker room that would be at the back of the first floor and closed off from the rest of the casino to keep the smoke out better than the current room. The only question is will the bathroom back there be part of the new room or would the build the new poker room apart from the bathroom and just have it be nearby. Of course, the rumor of the room being built back there has been floating around for a couple years now, but when it looked like sports betting was about to become legal, it ramped things up as the plan in the works involves turning the old poker room into a sportsbook.

Also of note, the WPT will use MCC dealers. That's one of the big reasons they went with WPT and WSOP when they started looking for a big time tournament to come to town. WSOP uses all their own dealers. WPT will allow the local casino to use their own and only hires in outside dealers IF the local casino doesn't have enough staff. They will have their own tournament directors here to run the tournament, which will help a lot. The floor people at MCC would have no idea how to handle a tournament of this size.

They also plan to run satellites to get into the $1100 event for a couple weeks leading up to it. The only thing I haven't heard yet is if there will be any other small tournaments leading up to it, or if it'll just be satellites followed by the one tournament.

Some good info; however, the dealer at my table was saying that they (MCC dealers) would only be dealing cash during the WPT stop. Unsure how reliable a dealer is, as I am sure mgmt would know more. However I doubt that MCC has anywhere near enough dealers to accommodate the tourney + cash. Hopefully they don't do what they do doing their weekly tournaments and pull trainees/potentials from the pit. Those dealers are slow and make tons of mistakes. I played one recently and aside from the structure being god awful, the 3 dealers I experienced put me on life tilt.

The tough part is, it's really not a great deal for these dealers to work the tournament. They make way more money in tips working the cash games than they do the weekly tournaments at MCC. Too many players in the tournaments will tip the dealer at the end of the final table (if they tip at all), but forget about the other dealers who also dealt the tournament up to that point.

For the WPT, unless they're getting a cut from the entry fee as a dealer fee, it's not worth it for them to deal the tournament over dealing cash that day, especially for the early days of the tournament.

For what it's worth, I don't know for sure that they won't have outside dealers, I just know that Tony told me one of the main reasons for picking a the WPT as a partner is because they will let them use their own dealers. The WSOP would never let them use their own.

Oh, and to be fair, as a somewhat regular 2-5 and PLO player during the day at MCC (usually 2-4 times per week), I can tell you certain daytime dealers drive me crazy and they're mostly full-time poker dealers. Some of the part-time dealers they brought in when the bad beat was high were actually better than the regular dealers, but they told me it wasn't worth leaving a full-time gig upstairs to be a part-time poker dealer (and that was the job change they'd have to make to only deal poker regularly).

We'll see what happens for the WPT

When I played a MSPT at Poto in Milwaukee they brought in the WSOPc Dealers to help out and everyone said it was the best tournament weekend they'd ever had. Sattys were 50% bigger and cash had very little wait. The circuit had an off weekend at that time so the Dealers were available ... obviously that wont happen all the time.

Did Hammond bring in circuit Dealers for the CPC? Could be part of the reason that they changed that over to a second WSOPc stop ... to get those Dealers?

Obviously we don't know/see the true numbers, but attempting to bring in a legitimate tournament brand and then not going all out would be short-sighted IMO. The power of social media and word of mouth from tour reg to reg can crush a venue in a hurry. It's not like 5-8 years ago where Players didn't have lots of choices on their calendars.

I don't see where they have a POY race and tournaments are all over the world (with very few of them streamed) so it would be pretty easy to skip an event if left with a negative experience. I'd hate to see this be a step backwards for the Detroit casino scene. I don't really see Detroit as a gambling destination for non-residents and that same word of mouth that can spread positives just as easily as negatives when you attach it to a known brand of poker. GL

Agreed entirely. You can't drop the ball on things like this (especially as MGM is gaining some traction). That's been true for a while though. Think back to when the HPT did events at Greektown. It was so poorly run, they said they'd never come back and many out of state players who came to Greektown (mostly from Ohio and Indiana) said the same thing. I'm not saying it was the cause of the decline of Greektown, but it definitely didn't help their cause (hiring Ed White to be the poker room manager was just as bad a decision).

I stand corrected on previous statements. Officially the WPT will be bringing their own dealers in because motorcity would never have enough dealers to keep their cash games going on the tournament series. Talked to Tony today and he said dates are solid for Aug 9-18. Probably a smaller 2 day tournament the opening weekend and then their “main event” on the last weekend, with smaller tournaments during the week (including two PLO tournaments).

What does everyone think of the Vision Lanes and Malarky's cash games vs MGM 1/2??

Anyone ITT been playing Rosemack lately?

If you're looking for lots of action ... try 5-Star Lanes in Sterling Heights. Looks like they run day and night sessions Wed-Sat right now. Pretty sure it's cash games only and they had a PLO table running the last time I was there. GL

where'd you find this info? I can only find a facebook page that hasn't been updated in 2 yrs saying they're permanently closed. also related articles from Michigan gambling board that they were shut down


did they reopen just recently?

I just moved to sterling heights so it'd be great to have somewhere to play so close to home

You should always check the licenses directly: http://milottery.state.mi.us/gc-mplocator.php

That'll tell you which rooms are open which days, and if there's some ****up with the charity that week.

looks like 5star lanes is once again thee spot in sterling heights. 2 miles to PLO! ive been walking my dog here for the past for 6 months . thanks