I'll be in the area in March. Does PLO or any variant thereof run regularly on weekends?

I think I’ve seen PLO run twice in the last 6 months and I’m there almost every weekend.

Thanks. Sounds like Seminole Hard Rock is the place to go for PLO.

Does Derby Lanes room have safety deposit boxes. If so, cost . thanks

I played the $212 player appreciation tourney on Tuesday and it was a total mess. One player who is a very usual player, and usually a really nice guy, was very drunk and was berating all the dealers and the players. He only received a one round penalty when he purposely turned his hole cards over, and while on his one round penalty he was just near the table, and then started verbally fighting with the dealer while on his one round penalty. He was saying things like 'I'm gonna F**king come for you and all your f**king chips, I'm gonna knock you the f**k out of this tourney' to multiple players, almost continuously the whole time and was never warned or penalized.

I get it. He's a good guy. He knows everyone. He plays there all the time. He was just really really drunk, but there has to be a line and he definitely crossed it almost every 5 minutes and the floor is so weak that they literally sit there and debate with him whether the dealer was out of line causing him to get so angry.

Then another regular is in a big pot facing an all in, he asks the dealer to spread the pot, dealer says he's not allowed to spread the pot. Player asks the floor, floor says not allowed, when asked if he's sure floor then says he's not sure but dealer said no and he thinks that's right, player obviously gets upset that no one knows the rules. Next dealer that shows up to table gets asked same question and says he spreads the pot for everyone but he's not sure of the rules. I don't care what the actual rule is, and I actually left not even sure what the rule is because we got so many answers, it's the fact that no one knows anything.

It's a joke. And the first player that was drunk really ruined things for the night for most of the tables. I won't be playing again at derby for a while - I don't know how that room functions when the managers and floors are so inept.

It would not have been an easy task to stop the drunk guy from verbally abusing everyone, I get it, but that's their job, he should have been warned and then penalized, and then kicked out for the night if he kept it up, instead the floor is friends with him so they just let him go on being an ******* for many hours while the tourney kept going. And I'm talking about vulgar swears every 5 minutes, not just being mean.

And to be clear, the drunk guy is a nice guy and I've played with him many times and my frustration is not with him at all - these things happen in a casino, I've been drunk and gotten tossed from a poker room in vegas, worst case if he kept it up he shoulda gotten tossed, and he comes back the next day and all is fine, but the fact that the room is run by people who have no ability to control a poker room is messed up. It was as extreme as I've ever seen it and it lasted for hours.

I thought about calling derby lane just to voice my feedback, but the problem is the people in charge are the ones that were actually failing at their job, so I see no point in that at all.

And now it seems like they've completely eliminated the Tuesday player appreciation tourney for $212. Derby is run more like a local card room where everybody knows your name and the managers don't have the balls to ever upset a regular regardless of how out of line they are. I wouldn't trust them to make a tough ruling against a regular so I don't think I'll be playing there any more. Hopefully they get more serious about the room and the way they run it once dog racing ends, but as of now they are a distant 2nd place to the hard rock and it just seems to get worse.

Not that I’ve never been guilty of this, but is there any solution to the “herding cats” type problem where they call 2/5 but everyone watches and doesn’t actually go over until enough people are actually sitting there? It’s probably my biggest frustration with the room.

And yea Eddie, Derby often feels more like a home game than a typical room which has positives and negatives. I do think the rulings are usually fair, but I did see one instance in which I would be surprised if favoritism wasn’t a factor. A player who is a reg in the big private game said “300” when it was his turn to bet. After getting called he said he didn’t bet 300, he said he was asking if the other guy had $300 left which is obviously ridiculous, especially since the guy had about $600 left and was on his direct left. The floor ruled because he merely said “300” instead of “300 dollars” so it wasn’t a bet. I was in awe, especially since this player had been pulling minor shenanigans all session (eg wrongly declaring his hand on the river at showdown)

What is the difference between “micro $1-$2” and just plain ole “$1-$2” listed on Poker Atlas?

Man, that sucks they got rid of the player appreciation tourney.... Didn't have the time to play it very often, but was definitely the best value in town, and usually a very weak field for a local $200 buy in...

Different buy in cap. 1/2 is $200 cap. 1/2 micro I think is $60 or $80.

I guess it's safe to say this thread is officially dead since two people were shot at Derby Lane two nights ago, and no one has a word to say about it here...

I missed that one. Was it in thr parking lot? Googling the news coverage wasn't specific.

I stopped going when it felt like the floor treated regulars there differently than other players - maybe I'll show up if they run some huge tourney or something, but I don't trust the floor to make fair rulings and usually when that's the case I just stop playing - the place is run like a home game and they should be investigated by the state for some of the rulings they make and the way they enforce the rules differently depending on who is breaking them.

I hadn't heard about the shooting, but if that's the case then just another reason not to play. People probably noticed the same thing I did, very lax attitude by everyone involved, security, management, dealers etc, and it was only a matter of time until **** got out of hand when you let players berate other players endlessly and don't kick them out just because they're regulars.

My previous rant had to do with management refusing to kick a player out of the casino that was drunk and verbally assaulting everyone at the final table of one of their tourneys - this is an extreme example of why that type of behavior should not be tolerated. Not sure what happened with the shooting, but when you let people act like that in your gambling establishment then it increases the chances that a fight or worse breaks out.

Unless they've somehow had a complete change of management then I'd expect nothing to change and have no plans to play there anytime soon.

orrrrrr, people dont want to post about a situation that has an ongoing investigation related to it.

Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, since the investigation is still ongoing, I guess it's best to act as if it simply never happened. Carry on...

Seriously though, what a strange comment.

its not acting as if it never happened, its letting the police do their job.

I was there. I was playing in the game when it happened. my 2 good friends got shot.



horrible situation. hopefully the detectives do their job and can find the guy who did this.

Sorry to hear that. Hope they're OK. And hopefully Derby Lane steps up their security.

Speaking of security, I heard someone just got robbed in the parking lot tonight, would appreciate if anyone had any details. Might be going to Derby less often if this keeps happening.

Yikes! I just got home from there. I didn't hear anything about it, though.

I can confirm that it happened.

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First time posting. So hello. Playing here and they have $500 high hand. What are the general rules of when the high hand is good. 20 seconds were left on the clock when the floor man saw the high hand and radioed the booth the high hand. They said it doesn’t count until the booth announces it. Is this the norm? What is the point of the clock and the floor man then? The high hand didn’t count but did count for the next one. Thanks in advance.

Each poker room in Florida can set their own policies and procedures for high hand payouts. But their policies and procedures ("internal controls") do have to be submitted to the Florida Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering for approval. You could check with the Division if you think they aren't following their approved internal controls. You can also ask Derby to see their high rules, which they are required to "prominently display" under Florida regulations, but that may not include such details of procedure.

Each non-indian-owned poker room*

You know as well as I do that the Seminoles can do whatever they want with the JP$

Yep, quite right. I don't think of the Indian poker rooms as "in Florida" since they are on sovereign territory.

That is the rule there. And if the promotion ends at say 11:00 and you hit your high hand at 10:58 and the floor doesn’t get there before 11:00 to verify you get nothing. I’ve seen it happen. It’s really stupid.