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12-28-2010 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Into2ndWind
Hi all..

what are the highest stakes NL holdem that usually runs at del park?

thanks
As big as it gets is 2/5 $"1000 max buy in" every day and 5/10 "unlimited buy in" which plays some nights and most weekends.
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12-28-2010 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
In the end, the casual 1/2 player is not playing poker for a living, so if you're very good, you should be able to beat both games.
I would not say I am "very good". I've only been at it for a year or two and have not played live that much. (maybe 20 times). At my local casino (3 hour round trip) I win more than I lose.

But when I was at Charles Town I did very well (other than one huge donk move I would not do again). I don't recall if it was weekend. Maybe Thursday.
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12-29-2010 , 12:39 AM
Most likely coming up tomorrow morning for my first session AB (after baby ). Will try to get there for the free seat giveaway. If I don't win, I'll try out my negotiating skills. Anyone up tomorrow? I'll start a HORSE list (wishful thinking). Stop by if your around, I'll be wearing a bright green hoodie.
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12-29-2010 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by keith16fool
Most likely coming up tomorrow morning for my first session AB (after baby ). Will try to get there for the free seat giveaway. If I don't win, I'll try out my negotiating skills. Anyone up tomorrow? I'll start a HORSE list (wishful thinking). Stop by if your around, I'll be wearing a bright green hoodie.
What time will you be there. I'm also thinking of going over this evening.
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12-29-2010 , 12:29 PM
Can anyone explain to me the comp system at Delaware Park? For instance, I know I can go to any slot machine, insert my card, and it tells me how many "valuable points" I have earned. At what ratio are these points exchanged for $$'s on food, etc?
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12-29-2010 , 01:13 PM
I think you get 40 cents per half hour that you can use on food and stuff in the casino.
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12-29-2010 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NovaBits
Can anyone explain to me the comp system at Delaware Park? For instance, I know I can go to any slot machine, insert my card, and it tells me how many "valuable points" I have earned. At what ratio are these points exchanged for $$'s on food, etc?
Again, my information is sometimes wrong. But, I think each point is worth .20 and you earn two points per hour. I use my card for any food and beverage item, at any pizza outlet, or restaurant..... even the hotdog stand or the bar at the tournament room. For instance, they have a pretty good Prime Rib special Monday to Thursday for 14.95 (kind of ugly room, but decent food). Took my wife, and the bill was 32.00 with drinks. I had 150 points. The bill, therefore, without tip was 2 bucks. You don't need to cover the entire charge with points, just give your card to anyone you buy something from and they'll bill you for the amount you don't have points for.
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12-29-2010 , 01:51 PM
Ahh, yeah, 40 cents per hour. That makes sense.
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12-29-2010 , 01:59 PM
Got here at 8 played cash ... Card dead... Will tell a great story later about a cash pot. Playing tourney today 166 runners!
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12-29-2010 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by keith16fool
Got here at 8 played cash ... Card dead... Will tell a great story later about a cash pot. Playing tourney today 166 runners!
Ok, you talked me into it. 166 runners means cash games later with hopefully, not so many cash game sharkes. I'm in for 1/2 NL or 4/8 HL. I'll leave in ten minutes. It's always so hard to give me a reason to play poker. See you there and look forward to your story. I hope the "coverall" board is up.
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12-29-2010 , 02:33 PM
Is the 8 am Aces cracked for Limit and NL or just Limit?
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12-29-2010 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
Play with us in the mixed game. Are you on my list?
layem

I saw above where you said you have a mixed game list. I was around in the early stages of this thread and tried to do something similar but havent been around in a while. Would be interested in any combination of the games in the 8 game rotation (HORSE +NLHE,PLO,27TD) if you were trying to put together a game sometime after january 15th. I'll follow this thread or you can email me at [email address removed]. Thanks.

-Coop

Last edited by Rapini; 12-29-2010 at 06:20 PM.
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12-29-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JKRC
Is the 8 am Aces cracked for Limit and NL or just Limit?
both limit and no limit 2 am to 10 am every day. pays 100
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12-29-2010 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CoopDeville
layem

I saw above where you said you have a mixed game list. I was around in the early stages of this thread and tried to do something similar but havent been around in a while. Would be interested in any combination of the games in the 8 game rotation (HORSE +NLHE,PLO,27TD) if you were trying to put together a game sometime after january 15th. I'll follow this thread or you can email me at [email address removed]. Thanks.

-Coop
Will do. The idea is to get these kinds of games running on their own. People really don't know much about 2-7 TD or Badugi. But, I have to admit, it's both time consuming and pressure to put these things together. I've sent close to a zillion (maybe not that many) PM's
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12-29-2010 , 08:12 PM
Layem- I looked for you but you were nowhere to be found. Won a seat in the pm tourney ... Misses didn't seem so thrilled; but free equity ... Won a bit back in cash and have another story to tell when I'm on my laptop and not my cell. Some angle shooting d-bag in the game :/
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12-29-2010 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by keith16fool
Layem- I looked for you but you were nowhere to be found. Won a seat in the pm tourney ... Misses didn't seem so thrilled; but free equity ... Won a bit back in cash and have another story to tell when I'm on my laptop and not my cell. Some angle shooting d-bag in the game :/
Was there, playing 1/2 nl at table 17. Sat through all the twenty seats given away and missed them all. lost a hand that made all the difference and still don't know how bad I play it. Would appreciate advice.

Q j on the BB. UTG bets ten and seven callers in front. I pay the extra 8 for 10 to 1 odds. 81.00 in the pot. Flop comes jj 4. I check and it checks around. turn 7... Here's where I start to f it up. I check again. Checks to the button who puts out 25.00. I call, the rest fold. Pot now is about 131.00. River 10 I check, thinking the bettor has a flush. He bets me all in, which isn't so much @ 83.00. His range is limited and like the donk I can sometimes be, I can't get myself to fold my trips with the q kicker even though I know he could have q k or diamonds....most likely, the flush. QJ off is brutal to me when I play that out of position and I know it. Once the trips flopped, I was hoping for value and a bet to me. I'm not sure if I should have folded pre flop. He had the nut flush a3 and even a value bet post flop, he calls with the nut flush draw. Who folds that river bet.... I'm sure I should have. He could only have me beat or be on a total bluff. Anyway, bought back, but could never get anything going and lost a buy in. Not really good players at the table, but nothing was falling my way. Advice on the hand?
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12-30-2010 , 01:02 AM
I hate QJo and very, very rarely play it. *Dont play NLH too much, but with ten outs obviously you're good for the $25 call. On his turn push for $83 has a paranoid like me wondering did he hit a boat or flush, or is there a ~40% he's just a Jack*ss. *Either way think your drawing to ten outs or less, so 4-1 dog(or worse) on a single card. But, I've been there like a month ago in Dover. Obnoxious player (bb) called my $20 flop bet and quickly moves in his last $55 on a three flush turn. I'm sitting with a set, the pot odds are absolutely not there, but I read him for a bluff, two pair, or weak flush(speed of shove screamed flush). He rolls over T7s for made flush and I miss the ten outs (and felt like a class A noob). I think I let his personality lead me down the path. Oh well, had it been for several hundred I pretty sure we're gone, but the last $50-80, he might just want to leave... *

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12-30-2010 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
Was there, playing 1/2 nl at table 17. Sat through all the twenty seats given away and missed them all. lost a hand that made all the difference and still don't know how bad I play it. Would appreciate advice.

Q j on the BB. UTG bets ten and seven callers in front. I pay the extra 8 for 10 to 1 odds. 81.00 in the pot. Flop comes jj 4. I check and it checks around. turn 7... Here's where I start to f it up. I check again. Checks to the button who puts out 25.00. I call, the rest fold. Pot now is about 131.00. River 10 I check, thinking the bettor has a flush. He bets me all in, which isn't so much @ 83.00. His range is limited and like the donk I can sometimes be, I can't get myself to fold my trips with the q kicker even though I know he could have q k or diamonds....most likely, the flush. QJ off is brutal to me when I play that out of position and I know it. Once the trips flopped, I was hoping for value and a bet to me. I'm not sure if I should have folded pre flop. He had the nut flush a3 and even a value bet post flop, he calls with the nut flush draw. Who folds that river bet.... I'm sure I should have. He could only have me beat or be on a total bluff. Anyway, bought back, but could never get anything going and lost a buy in. Not really good players at the table, but nothing was falling my way. Advice on the hand?
After you checked the turn and river, I would value bet any jack if I were him, so I don't think you are only beating a bluff. This is where hand reading comes into play. How many worse hands will he call with on the button. Do you think J8 and J9 are in his range? I agree that you should have folded, but you will have the winner maybe 10% of the time.
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12-30-2010 , 07:02 AM
Played a marathon session today..

What a wild 4/8 game. Tons of pots 5-way capped preflop. It was action city.

I got a straight flush A-5 for the high hand promotion at from 2-5am, then someone got a 3-7 straight flush.
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12-30-2010 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ColeW123
Played a marathon session today..

What a wild 4/8 game. Tons of pots 5-way capped preflop. It was action city.

I got a straight flush A-5 for the high hand promotion at from 2-5am, then someone got a 3-7 straight flush.
I take it you won? Too bad the "Cover all Board" wasn't up yet. That straight flush would have been worth $500 regardless of high hand, assuming you used both your hole cards. I'm told the board will be up early next week. I take that to mean Monday, but what do I know. The wheel straight flush has a card on the board, but I don't think 2 thru 6 does..... I'd have to go back and look.

I was on the 4/8 list at 2PM, but was down a couple hundred on my donkey poker Q J off play and stayed at 1/2 when I made the top of the list at 3:30. Maybe I should have moved over.
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12-30-2010 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime_fan24
After you checked the turn and river, I would value bet any jack if I were him, so I don't think you are only beating a bluff. This is where hand reading comes into play. How many worse hands will he call with on the button. Do you think J8 and J9 are in his range? I agree that you should have folded, but you will have the winner maybe 10% of the time.

I think you're right. No way I'm good there and a better player "lays-em-down". He would only have either 10 j, for a made full house. A flush. Possibly k j or A J which would have beat me or a very doubtful weaker jack that didn't pair like j 9 or j 8. I beat only j 9 or j 8 there or I'm crushed. It's not like he called $10 pre flop with j 5 or j 6. Some 1/2 players may, but I'd been at the table long enough to know him better. But, he was calling limped pots blind. He said, "his chances of winning and luck were better blind than looked at". Not too bad, an $83.00 poker lesson.

I need to take the time to think more and act less. I'm working on that aspect of my game.
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12-30-2010 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime_fan24
After you checked the turn and river, I would value bet any jack if I were him, so I don't think you are only beating a bluff.
Do people in these games normally check flopped trips, in an 8-player field, with a paired, flush-draw board?
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12-30-2010 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
Do people in these games normally check flopped trips, in an 8-player field, with a paired, flush-draw board?
No, as first to act, I expected one of the seven behind me to bet and I may have come over the top hard depending on the action behind the bet. In fact, at most 1/2 tables the BB (me) comes out with an "all in" there or some bet I consider silly to knock off the draws. I put UTG plus 1 on a med pair and really thought he'd bet out after the flop $15 or $20 and I'd have some position for that round anyway. As it was, it was a bad spot for me and the first call was my mistake. QJ off in that position, barring a nut straight flop is going to be tough to play. That flop was almost as much as I could hope for and even then, I didn't like the odds with such a large field acting behind me.

How would you have played that hand? I really am interested. Fold pre flop? Fire after the flop? How much? As it is, any value bet would have been called in only one place.....on the button with the nut flush draw which he made. I could have bet it really hard, but I wouldn't have wanted the draw to fold anyway which, if he had any sense would have folded to $90.00 plus bet, but I also knew k j or A J could easily have been behind me. If I play out with $40.00 to $60.00, I tell my hand, leave the odds for the big draws to call, am fully committed and anything but a better j or nut flush draw (maybe k or Q high) folds.

I'm not sure the flop check was wrong.... but the river call was terrible. Maybe I should have bet the turn and I would have, without seeing a turn diamond there, but would surely have been raised by the made nut flush and left with the same decision. It might have been easier then, but I still had four outs and would have been tempted to see the river.....maybe another stupid way to think? Do you think?

Help me undertand how to have done that better Larry.

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12-30-2010 , 11:36 AM
I have lost so much playing QJo, I just routinely toss it preflop.

Even with the flop you describe, idiots with the unbeatable KJo (funny, to call them idiots since I am the dummy with QJ), somebody limping in and "trapping" with AJ, or JT boating up, all beat me everytime.
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12-30-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
It might have been easier then, but I still had four outs.
Correction, ten outs since the second pair could have come on the board at the river
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