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Old 06-13-2010, 05:26 PM   #201
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Re: Delaware Park Poker Room News

I played at Harrington for a little over 2 hours yesterday. It's about a three hour drive from Chesapeake, VA, half the length of the AC drive. The room is small but it does have its own cashier so the lack of chip runners isn't really an issue (although as the day went on there apparently were some chip runners, when I put myself on the list I was told there were none).

The room seems to be run pretty well... waited probably 20 minutes for a seat. I like the pager idea since you can roam the casino while you wait. They had 5 tables of 1/2NL running when I arrived and opened a 6th while I was there. Around 7pm the floor also went around the room asking who wanted to play 2/5, so I imagine a 2/5 game probably started up after I left.

Dealers did a serviceable job, it's clear they're new but I didn't see any fundamental errors while I was playing. Right when I sat down there was an issue with a pot that should've been chopped and was apparently awarded to only one player; I didn't see the hand so I can't comment on how it played out, but the situation was dealt with to everyone's satisfaction.

I'll definitely go back since I can make a day trip of it, but I'd still rather be in AC at the Borgata.
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:09 PM   #202
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^ worst trip report ever. Harrington's room is not run well and the dealers suck.
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:17 PM   #203
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^ worst trip report ever. Harrington's room is not run well and the dealers suck.
If you have a problem with the place, write up a TR. Just because you don't like a place doesn't mean it's terrible. Maybe management would learn from your comments and improve.
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:41 PM   #204
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But, what I really want to know about is their Mississippi Strattle. I've never played a room that played a strattle under those rules. In fact, I'm only guessing at what they are. I believe that it's an action strattle, where anyone in any position can strattle and the action post flop begins to the left of the last strattle. In effect, like buying the button. So, if I understand this, the button can always take the button back by also startling a strattled hand. Does that make sense?

in every game I've ever played only the under the gun player can strattle
I would like to learn more about MISSISSIPPI STRADDLE myself. Wikipedia and other sources do not fully describe it. What I'm guessing from reading sources online is that it buys you the button only for PREFLOP action, post flop action continues as normal stopping on the regular button position.

I'm personally do not like weird rules that modify the game, I enjoy poker as is. Specifically I would hate this rule if I had to sit after a cronic MISSISSIPPI straddler. However it would be awesome if you sat directly before the MISSISSIPPI straddler.

Where did you hear that Delaware Park was allowing such rule?
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:54 PM   #205
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I would like to learn more about MISSISSIPPI STRADDLE myself. Wikipedia and other sources do not fully describe it. What I'm guessing from reading sources online is that it buys you the button only for PREFLOP action, post flop action continues as normal stopping on the regular button position.

I'm personally do not like weird rules that modify the game, I enjoy poker as is. Specifically I would hate this rule if I had to sit after a cronic MISSISSIPPI straddler. However it would be awesome if you sat directly before the MISSISSIPPI straddler.

Where did you hear that Delaware Park was allowing such rule?

Here;s what I can find about this rule. The local rumors is that the director at Delaware Park came from the Venetian in Vegas, arguably one of the best rooms on the strip. He wants to spread many games, some I have no clue what they are. He doesn't like 2 4 limit, so it won't play. The Mississippi version may be described as this: this off the internet:

Straddling Allowed any position (Mississippi Option) generally, if the casino allows this, the button has the priority to straddle first and the option works counterclockwise, away from the blinds, with UTG having the last option; this is the way the Horseshoe Casino in Tunica ran most of their games when I was there last; if you find yourself in this type of game, consider straddling only on the button and the cut-off unless four-handed, UTG can be right; sometimes, sometimes! you can re-straddle the straddle, and that can be re straddled, and that can be re straddled all the way down the table; I've never seen it but I know it exists and sometimes happens, especially in Mississippi PLO games during the Poker Open.

But, I don't think they allow a re strddle. I got this from one of their future dealers and he says it's their to encourage action.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:34 AM   #206
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Dealers at Harrington dont know how to count and dont know the rules of poker.

If you live in the DC/Baltimore area, Delaware Park should be your go to casino

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Old 06-14-2010, 08:34 AM   #207
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Yes, the Mississippi Straddle will be in play at Delaware Park.

The Straddle will be allowed from any position (except the blinds).

The Straddle will be locked into place once the dealer cuts the deck (so people don't try to hold up the game by pump-faking that they are straddling).

The person with best position will get priority and the straddle (as noted in earlier post, its determined from best position - the button - to worst).

If the Straddle is in play on a hand, the pre-flop action will start directly left of the straddle. For example, if the button straddles, the small blind will be first to act. All action on following streets go in conventional order.

Oh yeah, no re-straddling.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:37 AM   #208
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And today's soft opening starts at 2pm, runs to 10pm. Only 3-6 LHE today. 1/2 NL may be allowed tomorrow, I'll try to keep the board posted.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:45 AM   #209
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thats a weird straddle rule for DP. I'd rather have a normal straddle with double-straddling allowed
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:55 AM   #210
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Dealers at Harrington dont know how to count and dont know the rules of poker.

If you live in the DC/Baltimore area, Delaware Park should be your go to casino
Delaware Park's poker hasn't even started yet. For all you know, the dealers will be just as bad as (or worse than) you found that Harrington ones to be.

However, I never saw any rules issues or issues with dealers being unable to count while I was playing. Sorry you had a bad experience, but you seem to be in the minority here.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:13 AM   #211
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I played at Harrington yesterday for about 4-5 hours. I stopped off on my way back from OC. Took me about an hour from OC to get there.


I got there, had to ask where the poker room was. I find it and get a pager. I went back downstairs to play BJ. The pager started audibly saying it was out of range. That got annoying to me, and I am sure the other players real quick. I tucked it under my leg so it would not bother anyone, so I was kinda sitting on it. I was surprised when it went off 10-15 mins later. Out of range on the table but on the chair and under my leg it worked. huh. I only played BJ ($15) for about 20 mins. The dealer wasn't great. Had to correct his math at one point.

Made my way upstairs and sat at my 1-2 table. was pretty fishy. I did make the mistake of not letting my cards speak at one point. Flopped broadway and slow played. By the river there was a 3 flush on board and 4 to broadway. Guy calls my river bet and says "flush." He says he was asking (afterward), it sounded like a declaration to me and I mucked. He ended up catching up to broadway as well. My fault as I should have tabled my hand so I lost half the pot. I asked him nicely but sternly to please just flip the cards next time.

Overall it was ok poker wise. Narrow but deep room. Had about 5 tables running when I got there. A few more started up by the time I left. No problems with the dealers. The chip stroller was not the quickest but whatever. The cage is at the back of the room.

The wait staff though was sooooo slow. They only had one waitress working at a time, but she would only do 1 table at a time, no matter how many or few drinks she had to get, so it took forever. As it got later I asked for a menu from Murph's next door. She then disappeared and we had to flag her down so I could order dinner. The dinner was good once I got it though.

Also they seemed to be having problems with their AC so it would come and go and sometimes get a bit toasty in the room.

I live in Baltimore and it took me 2 hours to get home because of the traffic on 50 from kent island to the bridge.

Overall it wasn't bad but I will only go there if I am going to or from the beach. I will probably just stick to Delaware park as it should only be just over an hour for me to get there.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:14 AM   #212
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For all you know, the dealers will be just as bad as (or worse than) you found that Harrington ones to be.
That is impossible

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However, I never saw any rules issues or issues with dealers being unable to count while I was playing. Sorry you had a bad experience, but you seem to be in the minority here.
Actually you are in the minority. Read the thread, everyone had a complaint but you.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:55 AM   #213
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That is impossible

Actually you are in the minority. Read the thread, everyone had a complaint but you.
Most people are pointing out a few small problems and chalking them up to it being a new room with inexperienced staff. You're the only one saying the room is terrible and telling people to stay away. Beyond that, you still haven't bothered to post what your problem with the place is. In the time you've spent posting snarky one-line responses to me, you could've written up a proper TR and let people know what you experienced.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:49 AM   #214
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Went to Harrington Saturday and Sunday. Saturday I was there during the day around 1pm til 5:30pm, only had i think 3 tables of 1/2nl going and had to wait about 30 minutes for a seat. Had aces cracked early to garbage, overall table was very fishy, cashed out with $600 profit. The floor person was kind of an idiot and didnt know what he was talking about on one ruling regarding a string bet but after a solid 7-8 minutes it was finally settled. Sunday I went at night, got there around 10pm and the room was pretty busy, had 6 tables going, 1 being 2/5nl. I sit at a 1/2nl table and this annoying blond middle aged woman sits down after me. She had me on total tilt the entire night, saying how she quit her day job making $35/hr cause she makes more playing poker which made me lol cause the entire night she didnt raise pf once, she just limped everyhand. She was down around $300 and she kept trash talking me at the other end of the table but wouldnt say it directly to me, she'd turn to whoever was next to her and complain about how I raised too much and how people like me are the reason she makes money. The guy on my left busted her when he flopped a straight against her 2 pair...totally made my night cause she shut up for a little bit after that. Table was very fishy, only me and 1 other guy would raise preflop, everyone else was content with playing limped family pots all night. Played til 1am and was card dead most of the time, cashed out with $90 profit.

The dealers are definitely still learning, on a few occasions dealers pushed pot to wrong person, gave wrong change or completely forgot to give change. On 2 occasions the river card was put out before action on the turn was even complete.

The place is only a 20 minute drive from my house so I'll definitely keep going back until dover downs opens their poker room at which point I'll probably move my play there since its a little closer.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:46 PM   #215
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Dealers at Harrington dont know how to count and dont know the rules of poker.

If you live in the DC/Baltimore area, Delaware Park should be your go to casino
I don't know if I'd make a blanket statement about all of the dealers, but the last time I was at Harrington the dealer mistakenly dealt in a player who was ineligible because he just sat in at the button seat. Instead of a misdeal, she was going to just muck the cards she had dealt to him. I explained to her that this wasn't the family Christmas day poker game and she had to redeal. She seemed a little annoyed that I pointed this out.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:52 PM   #216
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I don't know if I'd make a blanket statement about all of the dealers, but the last time I was at Harrington the dealer mistakenly dealt in a player who was ineligible because he just sat in at the button seat. Instead of a misdeal, she was going to just muck the cards she had dealt to him. I explained to her that this wasn't the family Christmas day poker game and she had to redeal. She seemed a little annoyed that I pointed this out.
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:09 PM   #217
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I played in a private 2/5 game with a Mississippi straddle and it was annoying. It was for the button only, which bought him last position pre-flop. It's a pointless play, IMO because the button has position on everyone but the blinds anyway. So you're dropping a 2x bet in the dark to be able to pressure 9 players, rather than just holding the option to lean on 7 (non-blind) players for free.

The room not having 2/4 LHE seems dumb because it's a rake producing standard. Sure it me be filled with degens, nits, and drunks, but that's what makes it a fun way to pass some time. Donking it up at 3/6 just ain't the same, but I'll probably still be doing it tomorrow afternoon.
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:56 PM   #218
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Ok...so can we get a running count? Who is going to be at Delaware Park for the grand opening on Friday?
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:16 PM   #219
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Ok...so can we get a running count? Who is going to be at Delaware Park for the grand opening on Friday?
Count me in. What time does it open?
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:54 PM   #220
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Has anyone truly confirmed that indeed Delaware Park is charging 10% rake up to $4 along with $1 BBJ (dropped only after $20/flop reached)?
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I don't know if I'd make a blanket statement about all of the dealers, but the last time I was at Harrington the dealer mistakenly dealt in a player who was ineligible because he just sat in at the button seat. Instead of a misdeal, she was going to just muck the cards she had dealt to him. I explained to her that this wasn't the family Christmas day poker game and she had to redeal. She seemed a little annoyed that I pointed this out.
Same thing happened at my table, the harrington dealer mucked the "dead hand" and continue the rest of the hand as normal. I don't care either way myself, random is random. However I was wondering the storm that would ensue if the bad beat was hit during that hand and then taken away because of the misdeal.
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:59 PM   #222
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Delaware Park's poker hasn't even started yet. For all you know, the dealers will be just as bad as (or worse than) you found that Harrington ones to be.

However, I never saw any rules issues or issues with dealers being unable to count while I was playing. Sorry you had a bad experience, but you seem to be in the minority here.
Delaware Park dealers might be just as bad, but the rake/BBJ structure will make Delaware Park win out easily. (assuming $4+1 rake, which has anyone confirmed?)
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Old 06-14-2010, 03:30 PM   #223
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I'm here at DP right now... there are 8 games going, 4 3/6 LHE and 4 1/2NL (which the Park got allowed to run today) with no capped betting. Lists are miles deep, people all over the rail. Room looks awesome, everybody needs to come check it out.
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I'm here at DP right now... there are 8 games going, 4 3/6 LHE and 4 1/2NL (which the Park got allowed to run today) with no capped betting. Lists are miles deep, people all over the rail. Room looks awesome, everybody needs to come check it out.

Thanks for the update. Could you confirm questions about rake and time opening on Friday?
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I'm here at DP right now... there are 8 games going, 4 3/6 LHE and 4 1/2NL (which the Park got allowed to run today) with no capped betting. Lists are miles deep, people all over the rail. Room looks awesome, everybody needs to come check it out.
THANKS FOR THE UPDATE!!! Let us know how it goes. Thanks!
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